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scoon
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 Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 10:12 am Post subject: sbp2 concerns with vanilla 2.6.6 kernel |
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Hey All,
I have a 2nd generation firewire iPod. All of the previous 2.6 kernels have allowed me to 'rmmod sbp2' so that I may safely disconnect my iPod. Now with the 2.6.6 kernel I can not do that. I have used the same .config file for all of my kernels so they are all configured the same. I also have loaded all of the same modules the same way for all of the kernels. I have noticied that for some reason when I look over the output from lsmod, I notice that for 2.6.6 kernel that sbp2 has a 1 in it's 'Used By' colum where previouse kernels had a 0. I know that is why I can't unload the sbp2 module for 2.6.6 but I don't know what else is using it ? Anyone else have any ideas or have experienced this ?
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Weird....i noticed no change going to 2.6.6
mine's a third-gen though 
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| Raoul_Duke wrote: | Weird....i noticed no change going to 2.6.6
mine's a third-gen though |
Hey there,
So are you connecting w/ firewire or USB ?
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply but I can connect fine with all of the other 2.6 kernels. Just not the newest one.
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| my ipod works fine with the develepomment sources 2.6.6. Try it. |
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| ipower wrote: | | my ipod works fine with the develepomment sources 2.6.6. Try it. |
Thanks iPower, but I like using the vanilla kernels from kernel.org.
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 10:41 am Post subject: sbp2 concerns with vanilla 2.6.6 kernel |
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Hey All,
Well I am now unloading the sbp2 module with the '--force' flag so that I can use 2.6.6 with firewire. I am still wondering if anyone else has noticed this change with the new kernel ?
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, I am having the same problem. I am using the vanilla sources from portage (2.6.6) |
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| dishkuvek wrote: | | Yes, I am having the same problem. I am using the vanilla sources from portage (2.6.6) |
Hey there,
Well I have discovered that for 2.6.6, firewire works slightly differently. Not from any config file stand but rather how/when i connect and un-connect. I used to be able to just plug the iPod in and then boot up and the kernel would recognize it. Not anymore, now I boot up and once that is done, then I plug in the iPod and it gets recognized. I used to not have to use the -force flag but now I do so I guess that is the way it is.
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| scoon wrote: | | dishkuvek wrote: | | Yes, I am having the same problem. I am using the vanilla sources from portage (2.6.6) |
Hey there,
Well I have discovered that for 2.6.6, firewire works slightly differently. Not from any config file stand but rather how/when i connect and un-connect. I used to be able to just plug the iPod in and then boot up and the kernel would recognize it. Not anymore, now I boot up and once that is done, then I plug in the iPod and it gets recognized. I used to not have to use the -force flag but now I do so I guess that is the way it is.
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Thanks for the tip. The --force seems to be working fine for me. |
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| dishkuvek wrote: | | scoon wrote: | | dishkuvek wrote: | | Yes, I am having the same problem. I am using the vanilla sources from portage (2.6.6) |
Hey there,
Well I have discovered that for 2.6.6, firewire works slightly differently. Not from any config file stand but rather how/when i connect and un-connect. I used to be able to just plug the iPod in and then boot up and the kernel would recognize it. Not anymore, now I boot up and once that is done, then I plug in the iPod and it gets recognized. I used to not have to use the -force flag but now I do so I guess that is the way it is.
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Thanks for the tip. The --force seems to be working fine for me. |
No problem.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:18 am Post subject: why do you need to rmmod? |
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I've got a firewire external harddrive (actually firewire enclose with IDE
drive). I had intermittent problems with 2.6.5 and 2.6.6 kernels, but
2.6.7-rc2 is working great (even with 2 firewires plugged in).
When I disconnect I just "umount /sda1" and then turn off the disk. I
can't see why you need to unload the module. umount syncs the buffers
so everything should be on the drive.
If you can't umount then you need to do "lsof /sda1" to see who has
it open. (emerge lsof if you don't have it). |
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scoon
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Hey there,
I am currently running a 2.6.7-rc3 kernel and it is definately working much better than the 2.6.6. iPods should not be disconnected until the sbp2 module is unloaded. For other hd's I bet it doesn't matter but here it does.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| scoon wrote: | | iPods should not be disconnected until the sbp2 module is unloaded. |
Do you have a link i could read for this or some more info.........i always just 'umount' ipod and disconnect. I have never been worried becuase the ipod always displayed the 'ok to disconnect' message.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Raoul_Duke wrote: | | scoon wrote: | | iPods should not be disconnected until the sbp2 module is unloaded. |
Do you have a link i could read for this or some more info.........i always just 'umount' ipod and disconnect. I have never been worried becuase the ipod always displayed the 'ok to disconnect' message. |
Hey there,
The iPod only shows the "OK to disconnect" when the sbp2 module is unloaded. Now there are a few generations of them now so this is definately true for the first 2 generation ones, the firewire only ones. I have not used the third generation USB ones so I don't know how they connect/disconnect.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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That's ok......i'm a third-gen user so i reckon i'm ok.
Cheers for respnding though 
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