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petrjanda Veteran
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 1557 Location: Brno, Czech Republic
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:38 pm Post subject: Windows 2003... funny |
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In our server at school this guy(technician, but not microsoft certified, he knwos win 2k server, cuz he set up a number of such) tried to get Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition running, but couldn't get it to work, then I came installed Gentoo, dhcp, samba, ldap, iptables and the network is up and running, and I haven't ever done this kind of instalation in my life, and all with help of google and this forum. Isn't it pretty amazing and together funny that they cant get 2 like operating systems (win2003 and win2k clients) to work properly, but I got 2 unlike operating systems to work pretty damn fine? _________________ There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
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garo Bodhisattva
Joined: 15 Jul 2002 Posts: 860 Location: Edegem,BELGIUM
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Windows 2003... funny |
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That's just because you're smart and he is dumb.
The prove: He uses windows ! _________________ My favorite links this month:
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Deebster Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 126
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Are they letting you keep root access to the server? |
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petrjanda Veteran
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 1557 Location: Brno, Czech Republic
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Deebster wrote: | Are they letting you keep root access to the server? |
yeah it's not a server for the whole school, just about 25-30 machines. _________________ There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
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krdp n00b
Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Posts: 41 Location: Newfoundland, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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This is funny. Linux in general rocks. Gentoo being the best distro rocks more |
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krolden Apprentice
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 293 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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petrjanda wrote: | Deebster wrote: | Are they letting you keep root access to the server? |
yeah it's not a server for the whole school, just about 25-30 machines. |
Sweet. It's always nice if they let you administer things.
Plus it looks good on your CV. |
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gen2fox Guru
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 544
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I'm going to do something similar in my school labs next month, they have win2k for the server and clients, what I plan to do is to setup a student account, and an account for each teacher, the student account won't be able to install apps or change major settings
I'll use win2k on the clients, and Gentoo on the server connected to the Internet (firewall dhcp ...), I'd like to ask, is it possible to use Samba as a server for active directory, if not, do you recommend that I setup local accounts on each PC, or install win2k server on another server computer?
I wish I could convince them to use Linux on the clients too, but there is no way to teach the students and the teachers a new OS.
Firefox will be the default browser, and I'll hide IE (because of its security problems), I'll install every major Open Source app on the clients too.
I'm still in the design phase, thank you for your help. |
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krolden Apprentice
Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 293 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:58 am Post subject: |
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ThunderFox wrote: | Firefox will be the default browser, and I'll hide IE (because of its security problems), I'll install every major Open Source app on the clients too.
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You will still need IE though for updating. |
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gen2fox Guru
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 544
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Krolden wrote: | ThunderFox wrote: | Firefox will be the default browser, and I'll hide IE (because of its security problems), I'll install every major Open Source app on the clients too.
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You will still need IE though for updating. |
You can't uninstall IE AFAIK. I'll just tell the students to use Firefox to avoid spyware and such stuff, most of them won't be able to tell the difference any way.
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As for my main question, I guess it's possible, I found this book, thanks any way. |
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charlieg Advocate
Joined: 30 Jul 2002 Posts: 2149 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Interestingly, I'd have chosen Debian for the server. It's a bit more of a diligent distro when it comes to security/stability and hence more appropriate for the server usage you cite. _________________ Want Free games?
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craftyc Guru
Joined: 23 May 2002 Posts: 443 Location: Behind You.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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charlieg wrote: | Interestingly, I'd have chosen Debian for the server. It's a bit more of a diligent distro when it comes to security/stability and hence more appropriate for the server usage you cite. |
Wouldn't OpenBSD be better than Debian? _________________ Postcount ++ |
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placeholder Advocate
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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He said hide IE which is totally possible. Due to the lack of intelligence that most users of the clients will be experiencing he can delete the shortcuts and make the folder C:/program files/internet explorer a hidden folder along with setting Firefox up as the default browser. |
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stonent Veteran
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:46 am Post subject: |
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When you launch windows update from the start menu it opens a window that uses an IE backend so you can get the updates. So yeah you can remove all the IE icons and restrict windowsupdate to administrators and you should still be safe.
Except for that and viewing video on MSNBC.com FireFox is pretty much a drop-in replacement for IE.
Google for "Best Browser" and it takes you to Mozilla.org _________________ Inspiron 4100 & Sun UltraAXe
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gen2fox Guru
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 544
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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A quick question before I start experimenting in my home network, I'll use Samba as a domain controller, I guess it's possible to restrict IE, Control Panel, and similar stuff to admins, should I use the System Policy Editor as the book I posted suggests or Win2K Pro has a similar feature built-in? |
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shagrat Apprentice
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 219 Location: Norway
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placeholder Advocate
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Too much talk of using Windows. Gives me a headache just thinking about it. lol
Yeah, the System Policy Editor should do the job. |
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gen2fox Guru
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 544
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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shagrat wrote: | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q293907 |
Quote: | This article describes how to uninstall Microsoft Internet Explorer version 6.0 and return to your previous version of Internet Explorer on computers that are running any of the following operating systems: |
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kitsunenokenja Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 131
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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ThunderFox wrote: | I wish I could convince them to use Linux on the clients too, but there is no way to teach the students and the teachers a new OS. |
If they're all dumb enough and you setup Gentoo on the clients with XPDE.. they'll never know the difference HA HA HA! Seriously though, I've heard people say that others have fallen for the XPDE trick and did not see a difference. Suckers! _________________ ProtonMail - Free encrypted e-mail from Switzerland
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gen2fox Guru
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 544
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Until that the teachers request some Windows-only program to be installed. |
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gnuageux Veteran
Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 1201
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:53 am Post subject: |
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How on earth did he fail at a 2003 install? _________________ The realOTW: http://forums.realotw.org/index.php
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