Installing portage on other distros, easier than ever

woolsherpahat · Guru Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 347

devsk:

Hmm. I'm not having a very good time with this. I'm emerging kahakai and on average about 50% of the ebuilds seems to fail. Mostly development libraries and media libraries. The majority of these already seemed to be installed via rpm so I injected them into portage and continued on with my emerge. Basicly my question is: Is it normal to have about 50% of your ebuilds fail to compile while using portage on a different distro?

geforce:

Yah, more or less but it doesn't seem to work as seemlessly as it does on a pure-gentoo system.

devsk · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:11 am Post subject:

if you post some errors, we can see if its the portage internal system which is causing the problem or if its something distro specific....on FC1 and now on FC2, I have used portage fairly well without a single problem....so 50% is kinda large number...I don't get that many errors even on solaris hacked version of portage.

micolous · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject:

Installing portage on a 'vanilla' debian sarge/testing installation (for x86). This has worked for me using the 20040104 debian-installer CD.

Using tasksel, select Development/C/C++, and install them. I'm too lazy to stuff around with dependencies, and this seems to cover most portage's dependencies without breaking much or installing too much software. I found xfree and a couple of other packages failed to install here, because they weren't on the apt mirror I was using. If this occurs for everyone else, then this is a Debian problem, not a problem with this mini-Howto or Gentoo. A workaround to this is:

woolsherpahat · Guru Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 347

Wow, installing portage on debian. You are a brave person! Don't let them know you did that.

I'd love to help work on a howto for this. I can add my experience with Mandrake 10.0. I'll be starting over from scratch sometime soon since I was having unrelated kernel problems. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

micolous · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:37 am Post subject:

mahir · l33t Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 725 Location: London

any updates on this topic?
bump..

news? events? who uses it
who has it working?
any tweaks...
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mahir · l33t Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 725 Location: London

so i /m on fc2... and i'm currently doing a yum update too fc3 test 1..

so i thought i'd try out this portage on fedora
(i am an active gentoo user btw)

ne who

i am doing an emerge -vp system and this is what i get

devsk · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:35 am Post subject:

a lot of problems...lot of FC scripts use perl and python. upgrading (or downgrading) these will always call for re-emerge of dependent modules and porting of those FC scripts. these should be left alone(injected and yummed)

module-init-tools, devfsd, cronbase, pam, linux-headers, shadow, hdparm, pwdb, pam-login, dhcpd: all can create pain of multiple config files and reconfigurations...two basic benefits of compiling from source don't apply to these mostly: faster code and bleeding edge software. so inject and yum them, and live happily. unless, of course, you are hell bent on converting your FC system into a gentoo clone....

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xRay_ · n00b Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 18

Hey, thanks for that script.

Gentoo will always be my 1st love but i decided to use Arch for the meantime, pretty cool to have portage still

Ill probably come crawling back like I always do...:p

raid517 · l33t Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 946

Hi, has anyone got any tips for getting portage working on Windows - via Windows Services for Unix? I tried unpacking the rescue tarball to do it, but tar and untar in SFU doesn't respond to any of the usual switches - so I can't even unpack it. Why do it? Well there is portage on Mac OS X, so why not Windows? SFU will be included as an integral part of Longhorn anyway - so unix will be a real part of MS' next OS. Also SFU feels a lot more 'intergrated' right now than Cygwin does. And also because it would just be plumb 'cool' to do it. There is even an Xwindow manager for SFU with full accelerated opengl support. So it would be a very neat thing to do.

GJ

Legout · Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:32 am Post subject:

HI Guys!!

I found this discussion!! I used Gentoo for a while. But i change to Arch Linux, because i can install binaries there. i don like the long time to compile something. But i loved at gentoo, that nearly every programm/app i wanted to install, was in portage. So i tried to port portage/emerge to my Distro!!
I found an interesting Project that did exactly what i was looking for:
Have a look at "emerde". Itś very easy to install and it works great for me!!

http://emerde.freaknet.org

xRay_ · n00b Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 18

raid517 · l33t Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 946

Thanks for that, yes it is indeed very cool. the only thing is I fuzzed it up slightly. When the install process finishes it recommends that you install various packages in order for it to function properly. Unfortunately I accidentally dismissed this window - and I don't know what these packages were. I can't find it anywhere in the docs, and I tried emailing the list and the author, but they didn't respond. The question is, what are these packages?

I'd prefer to avoid as many problems as possible.

Any input would be appreciated.

GJ

Legout · Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject:

make a copy of /usr/portage and reinstall it with autoinstall -norsync!!!

raid517 · l33t Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 946

OK, I don't know if that answers what I asked. But I will try. I guess this means I will get the info I want but reinstalling will be much quicker this time?

The one disavantage with this is that you don't seem to be able to update portage at all. I mean I often get a message that 'an update to portage is avaiable, it is recomended that you update.' But when I try to emerge the new version of portage it just says I can't and that I should inject the package to skip that dependency.

It also toasted my module-init tools install for my 2.6x kernel, when a version it decided it would download refused to compile. The result was that my Slackware got very sick and couldn't load any of my modules correctly.

Manually installing it didn't help either unfortunately.

But oh well, I guess even portage isn't quite perfect.

GJ

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OK, I just ran the script posted in the beggining. It told me, after erroring, that it needed the portage user & group, even gave me a line for each to copy in /etc/passwd & /etc/group. The only problem I had (spent all of about 1.5 minutes on it) was when I changed my $PORTDIR in make.conf, I forgot to update the symlink @ /etc/make.profile.

My thanx to the maker of ths script, and my bad if the 'make.profile' thing's already been gone over.
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chrisl456 · n00b Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 18

Just wanted add a tip for installing Portage on Mandrake 9.2.

After getting Portage up & going, I found I couldn't get KDE working (X looked like it started, but then it just quit). I had to change my /etc/env.d/10ldpath to:

plb · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 34

I installed this using the script on a Redhat 9 box and it seemed to work flawlesly. However after restarting I can no longer log into the system. I can't ssh into the box either. Fortunately, I had webmin installed so I can at least look through the logs and run basic commands. Anyone have an idea what could hae gone wrong? I'm thinking bin/bash is hosed.

Thanks!

Edit to add more info:

Trying to ssh into the box, I get connection reset by peer.
Trying to log into the console there is no error message, but it doesnt accept any input from the login promt.

garnie · Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:56 am Post subject:

trying to do this on a debian . . hard work though . . i have got it running but every single package i try fails not one have completed compiling . heres the error code i apt-get install gcc gawk
but perhaps i need some more ??

debian:/# emerge patch
Calculating dependencies ...done!

BlindSpy · Apprentice Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 263

great guide! thanks
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gch · Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:49 pm Post subject:

Hi everyone,

I've been trying this out on a RH9 machine. The machine is administered by my school, and has a lot of useful software installed, which is why I don't want to ditch it for Gentoo altogether. This is why installing portage atop it is very useful, particularly for keeping certain software up-to-date. (I never want to have to use GARNOME again).

Anyways, I get the rescue tarball installed, and am able to inject some packages, and emerge some others so that I can finally emerge a new version of portage, which goes fine.

Throughout the process I get lots of errors having to do with

ilikelinux · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 50

Can any help witht his problem?

jamapii · l33t Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 637

/sbin/depscan.sh belongs to sys-apps/baselayout

I did something like

ilikelinux · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 50

thanks that fixed it, either that or it was something else i did.