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scoobydu Veteran
Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 1076 Location: 'Mind the Gap'
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:56 pm Post subject: .: Some 'general' Linux info, that I thought I'd share :. |
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Not specific gentoo, but what I use to help out friends thinking of switching to linux.
Hope it helps in some way!
The Kernel, X11, Graphics and OpenGL, The Window Manager,
The applications & Finally the distribution.
The Kernel
X11
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This is the windowing system for Linux. Working with the window manager. It is included with most distributions.
XFree86 has changed it's license and the GPL'd Xorg-X11 is becoming the new standard X11 for Linux > http://freedesktop.org/Software/xorg.
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Graphics and OpenGL
The Window Manager
The applications
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The package manager [Like Windows update for EVERY open sourced application that you have installed] >>
A list of Windows applications with their Linux alternatives >> http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
I use;
fluxbox [Window Manager - http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ ] & pekwm [http://pekwm.org/]
mozilla firefox [www]
xchat [irc]
gaim [icq, msn etc]
gkrellm [sysinfo]
gvim [editor]
pan [news]
rox [File manager]
jpilot [Palm Manager]
graveman, xcdroast [dvd burning]
alsa [Sound drivers]
mplayer [DVD, avi player, plays most file types]
usbview [USB Viewer]
bluez-utils [Bluetooth utils]
openoffice2 [Office Suite]
abiword [Word Editor]
dvdrip [DVD to avi ripper, excellent quality with xvid 1.0!]
gftp [FTP Client]
Package Types (Like .msi files)
Distro's form into three area's RPM, DEB, source (meta) distributions. Redhat based distro's use RPM's to package up their binary files, where'as Debian based distro's such as Ubuntu, Xandros, Lindows, Knoppix use DEB files.
Basically the key point for packages is 'dependencies'. When you select a package to be installed, you want all of the libraries to be installed with it, to allow it to run! Of course!
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Finally the distribution ('distro')
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Distro's are all the above put together into a complete distribution ....
Personally I feel Debian based distro's such as Xandros, Libranet and Lindows are better for the first time user.
Initially try -> Ubuntu, Mandrake, Xandros, Libranet are good starter distro's
Then try -> Gentoo, Slack, debian are better (give you more control, once you have mastered the basics of linux)
Check here for a good list of the most popular distro's with a basic summary of what they are ..
http://www.linuxiso.org/
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
http://distrowatch.com/
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That's it, hope it helps _________________ Tyan Tiger K8W, 2xOpteron 240,Powerbook5,6 15" 1.5g, Macbook Black 2g, Mac Mini 1g, Ipod P60g.
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Insanity5902 Veteran
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 1228 Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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That is a good post, lost of good advice. I like the app compare link. I haven't seen that one before and it is the best one I have seen. _________________ Join the adopt an unanswered post initiative today |
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scoobydu Veteran
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Insanity5902 wrote: | That is a good post, lost of good advice. I like the app compare link. I haven't seen that one before and it is the best one I have seen. |
Glad it helped _________________ Tyan Tiger K8W, 2xOpteron 240,Powerbook5,6 15" 1.5g, Macbook Black 2g, Mac Mini 1g, Ipod P60g.
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Gripp Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 99
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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i noticed the lack of "fendora/red hat"
any reason why? (i'm just curious as i almost opted for it, but choose gentoo@ the end) |
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scoobydu Veteran
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Gripp wrote: | i noticed the lack of "fendora/red hat"
any reason why? (i'm just curious as i almost opted for it, but choose gentoo@ the end) |
No real reason Gripp, except for my initial experiences with Redhat where dependencies were a headache (and a put off for people trying Linux for the first time). That has improved, so it is a viable option.
I am trying the latest Fedora on my mac mini, and it works quite well. Probably a cleaner interface than that of some of the 'debian' based distros.
scooby. _________________ Tyan Tiger K8W, 2xOpteron 240,Powerbook5,6 15" 1.5g, Macbook Black 2g, Mac Mini 1g, Ipod P60g.
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chovy Guru
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:33 am Post subject: |
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I convinced a friend to try linux. He bought the Red Hat cd (i told him he didn't have to), but he wanted a manual (I told him look online). He couldn't get past the GUI install, and installing his raid card. Oh well. I forgot to tell him about Google. _________________ Woof, Woof! Add "[solved]" to the title! Woof, Woof! |
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scoobydu Veteran
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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chovy wrote: | I convinced a friend to try linux. He bought the Red Hat cd (i told him he didn't have to), but he wanted a manual (I told him look online). He couldn't get past the GUI install, and installing his raid card. Oh well. I forgot to tell him about Google. |
You're right, but I'm surprised RH gui install was too hard _________________ Tyan Tiger K8W, 2xOpteron 240,Powerbook5,6 15" 1.5g, Macbook Black 2g, Mac Mini 1g, Ipod P60g.
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chovy Guru
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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well, it was getting his raid card recognized that he couldn't do.
He said windows recognized it immedialtely. _________________ Woof, Woof! Add "[solved]" to the title! Woof, Woof! |
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davascript l33t
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 618 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I convinced a friend to try linux. He bought the Red Hat cd (i told him he didn't have to), but he wanted a manual (I told him look online). He couldn't get past the GUI install, and installing his raid card. Oh well. I forgot to tell him about Google. |
If you had to tell him about google(or if he didtn know) how does he know about linux? Google is a much more common name than linux. |
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chovy Guru
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm joking...he knows about Google, but didn't/can't find what he's looking for with it. And the only reason he knows about linux is because I keep talking about it. _________________ Woof, Woof! Add "[solved]" to the title! Woof, Woof! |
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davascript l33t
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 618 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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text is bland like salty crackers sometimes(heh but not this time) |
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readme.txt Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 147
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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nice post! getting fluxbox as we speak! |
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chovy Guru
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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i just installed xcfe4, not bad.
Fluxbox was cool but I couldn't figure out how to set a background for the desktop. _________________ Woof, Woof! Add "[solved]" to the title! Woof, Woof! |
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St. Joe Apprentice
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 242 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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chovy wrote: | Fluxbox was cool but I couldn't figure out how to set a background for the desktop. |
Read the Gentoo Wiki entry Fluxbox: Setting the Wallpaper _________________ For every hammer there is a nail.
For every nail there is a thumb. |
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scoobydu Veteran
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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readme.txt wrote: | nice post! getting fluxbox as we speak! |
Glad it was useful _________________ Tyan Tiger K8W, 2xOpteron 240,Powerbook5,6 15" 1.5g, Macbook Black 2g, Mac Mini 1g, Ipod P60g.
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