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klieber
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| abzs2k wrote: | | Infact, I would like the mods opinion on it |
We avoid censorship wherever possible. While it is certainly true that some people will be offended by pornographic links posted in OTW, I think it's equally true that as many or more people would be offended if we forbid them.
I do think the polite thing to do is to post a note along with the link warning people that it may contain objectionable content. Hopefully, people will do so in the future.
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piffle
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| Quote: | | I do think the polite thing to do is to post a note along with the link warning people that it may contain objectionable content |
Yes, here-here! That kids will be able to find such content much more quickly and efficiently when it is clearly and prominently labeled. After all, think of the children! |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Yes, here-here! That kids will be able to find such content much more quickly and efficiently when it is clearly and prominently labeled. After all, think of the children!
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If they want to find some porn on the net the Gentoo Forums aren't the most obviuos choice. If they want it they'll find it anyway. Try to teach them, and don't worry. They are children, not stoopids!*
*clever un-rudeness, very Bear-like 
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g4c9z
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I don't know if this thread is too old for anyone to read this or what, but one thing I consider bad Netiquette is when people use acronyms for common sayings like "AAMOF" for "As a matter of fact" or "IMHO" for "In my humble opinion", etc. You don't talk this way in real life so I don't see why the Internet should be any different. I know it's done all the time but that doesn't make it good. The few seconds it takes for the writer to write out the whole phrase greatly outweighs the long while beginning users have to spend trying to figure out what was said.
In fact, more generally, it's best if writers of posts don't assume things about what people know. General knowledge, e.g. most of the stuff in the Gentoo handbook and basic knowledge of computers is OK, but assumptions about knowledge of specific facts should be avoided, in my opinion. This is difficult for people who have used Linux for years, but they should do their best to remember what it's like to know very little about it. Even a link to a web page containing an explanation of something is much better than not explaining it.
As far as spelling mistakes (which was discussed earlier in this thread), how about if there was a spell checker built into the Gentoo forums that automatically popped up (if and only if there are spelling mistakes) when you click "Submit"? The dictionary could have extra Linux and Gentoo specific words in it too, such as "portage". Better still would be a grammer checker too, although I don't know of any for Linux - I've only ever seen the one in Microsoft Word. |
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pjp
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| g4c9z wrote: | | I consider bad Netiquette is when people use acronyms for common sayings like "AAMOF" for "As a matter of fact" or "IMHO" for "In my humble opinion", etc. You don't talk this way in real life so |
People may not talk that way, but it is common to use acronyms in almost any work setting.
BTW, OK is an abbreviation for okay.
EDIT: Sorry for the BTW, its habit. 
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pilla
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| pjp wrote: | | g4c9z wrote: | | I consider bad Netiquette is when people use acronyms for common sayings like "AAMOF" for "As a matter of fact" or "IMHO" for "In my humble opinion", etc. You don't talk this way in real life so |
People may not talk that way, but it is common to use acronyms in almost any work setting.
BTW, OK is an abbreviation for okay.
EDIT: Sorry for the BTW, its habit. |
IMO, pjp is right. And we are not integrating a speller into phpBB as it is not easy to upgrade it when a new phpBB version comes off.
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g4c9z
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| Quote: | | People may not talk that way, but it is common to use acronyms in almost any work setting. |
In a work setting, you know who you're talking to so you know they'll understand you. On a forum, you never know who may be reading and want to know what you're saying, so it's better to talk in a general way.
| Quote: | | And we are not integrating a speller into phpBB as it is not easy to upgrade it when a new phpBB version comes off. |
I wonder how the people at http://www.linuxquestions.org/ deal with it? They have a spell checker. |
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pjp
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| g4c9z wrote: | | On a forum, you never know who may be reading and want to know what you're saying, so it's better to talk in a general way. |
Or consider it an opportunity to learn about other people/cultures/subcultures.
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pilla
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| g4c9z wrote: | | Quote: | | People may not talk that way, but it is common to use acronyms in almost any work setting. |
In a work setting, you know who you're talking to so you know they'll understand you. On a forum, you never know who may be reading and want to know what you're saying, so it's better to talk in a general way.
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Some acronyms are quite well-known and can be used without problems.
Easy, they use another forums software (vBulletin).
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papal_authority
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| g4c9z wrote: | | I consider bad Netiquette is when people use acronyms for common sayings like "AAMOF" for "As a matter of fact" or "IMHO" for "In my humble opinion", etc. You don't talk this way in real life so I don't see why the Internet should be any different. |
Well for starters typing and talking are very different. Acronyms do save time, that's why they exist. Language continually evolves, including the Internet sub-culture.
| g4c9z wrote: | | it's best if writers of posts don't assume things about what people know. General knowledge, e.g. most of the stuff in the Gentoo handbook and basic knowledge of computers is OK |
Oh and it's not "e.g" it's exempli gratia 
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| g4c9z wrote: | | it's best if writers of posts don't assume things about what people know. General knowledge, e.g. most of the stuff in the Gentoo handbook and basic knowledge of computers is OK |
Oh and it's not "e.g" it's exempli gratia |
Haha, owned.
IMHO the occaisional acronym isn't bad, as long as it isn't every other word. And hell, where would office space be without acronyms?
"....Yeah.... we're gonna need those TPS reports ASAP."
As long as the post isn't
"LOL OMG DAT IMHO IZ GHEY" |
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tomk
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If you ever get stuck trying to figure out what an acronym stands for try using the program wtf.
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kallamej
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Easy, they use another forums software (vBulletin). |
And they don't have the language complexity that we have.
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Split off the conversation about not enough censorship going on here.
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