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Woland
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:39 am    Post subject: Prozilla's empty searches. Reply with quote

I have noticed from another thread, that users who try the prozilla search function when emerging things get blank searches with lycos, and then after a long pause, get shuffled right back to ibiblio. Now, ibiblio is a fine site, but you know, I want things faster.

I use the default Prozilla fetchcommand in make.conf:
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FETCHCOMMAND='/usr/bin/proz --no-getch -s ${URI} -P ${DISTDIR}'



In prozilla.conf, the lines dealing with other servers to use for the ftpsearch are:

ftpsearchurl = http://download.lycos.com/swadv/AdvResults.asp
ftpsearchurl = http://ftpsearch.uniovi.es:8000/ftpsearch

I've tried them both, but prozilla can't seem to cpnnect to either. Any suggestions?
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David_Escott
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not prozilla those sites simply dont exist. I honestly think that wget is probably all in all better than prozilla anyways. There are a number of packages off of ibiblio that prozilla will break when it downloads, and with many sites limiting the number of connections you also get slowdowns. If you really want speed try wget and set up some of the mirrors.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remove the -s option for Prozilla and it won't do the useless search attempts, it will just go straight to downloading. I used to max out my cable connection at around 250Kb/s at ibiblio, but I think wget was just as fast.

I think David has a point with the multiple connections and connection limits on some of the mirrors. Lately it seems prozilla is having a hard time getting all 4 connections started and it probably ends up taking longer than if I just let wget do it max speed with a single connection. Unfortunately the other US mirrors usually seem full so I always end up back at ibiblio, which has been slowing down the last few weeks.

Everyone should go back to wget and hopefully we can relieve some of the connections at the mirrors, thereby taking some load off of ibiblio and we will all benefit.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am using an ADSL line from a highly corrupt formerly publicly owned telco which only exisits in Alaksa. I won't say which one, but the initials are ACS. What I have found are that my connections feature speeds which are at best eratic. With a wget one connection, it would fluctuate from a brief high of somewhere in the 70's to lows in the teens, to settle at about 20kbps. With four connetcions, they _each_ do the same thing, but average out in the high 20's sometimes even approaching 33kbps, which is what I am paying for. So you see, prozilla here deffenatey has an advantage.

Another interesting fact about Anchorage, Alaska, is that we are equidistant from Tokyo and New York. So finding networkologically close mirrors can sometimes be compicated. I have had better pings to France than to Portland, OR, and friends who do tracerouts here actually once noticed that a route across town actually bounced to Croatia! (Our two telco's arn't on speaking terms, so if you want to view a web page on a server across the street, at a minimum your packets will travel the 2000 miles to Seattle and back. Wish I could collect on thier frequent flier miles!) So you see, a feature that would ping mirrors for me , and hook me up to the best one would be really great as well.

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Everyone should go back to wget and hopefully we can relieve some of the connections at the mirrors, thereby taking some load off of ibiblio and we will all benefit.

I am not sure how not using mirrors will help the load on ibiblio. Seems just the opposite would be the case.


More useless Alaska Trivia for those that want it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he meant using wget (1 connection) verses prozilla (4 connections) is easier on ibiblio to which I agree. But perhaps you could script this. Just ping the hosts and find the best

ping -c 5 www.google.com | grep round-trip | awk '{print $4}' | awk -F\/ '{print $1}'

gives the average ping time for google over 5 pings
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, like I feared:

ping -c 5 www.google.com

129.7

ping -c 5 www.Unlambda.com ---which is about a half-mile away from me
341.9
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

turbobri wrote:
Remove the -s option for Prozilla and it won't do the useless search attempts, it will just go straight to downloading. I used to max out my cable connection at around 250Kb/s at ibiblio, but I think wget was just as fast.

I think David has a point with the multiple connections and connection limits on some of the mirrors. Lately it seems prozilla is having a hard time getting all 4 connections started and it probably ends up taking longer than if I just let wget do it max speed with a single connection. Unfortunately the other US mirrors usually seem full so I always end up back at ibiblio, which has been slowing down the last few weeks.

Everyone should go back to wget and hopefully we can relieve some of the connections at the mirrors, thereby taking some load off of ibiblio and we will all benefit.


Cheers for that, I have been looking for ages (admittantly not very hard) for a way to get prozilla to not do those pointless searches. Perhaps a bug should be filed to change the defaults in make.conf.
In any case, I usually change prozilla to use two threads instead of four. Most servers will let two connections, I have had mixed results with four.
Code:

threads = 2

in /etc/prozilla.conf will do it
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[UK]Superdude wrote:

In any case, I usually change prozilla to use two threads instead of four. Most servers will let two connections, I have had mixed results with four.
What I find dumb about prozilla, is it's innability to cycle the working connections to those who are timing out. Say, 2 out of 4 worked, when those 2 working are done downloading, the two others are stupidely waiting to connect. Some softwares are simply not very elaborated and prozilla is one of them.
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