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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffo wrote:
gcc-config?? e che c'azzecca con jai??


chiedo perdono, java-config --help :wink:
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woah! sto postando da lg3d :D
devo ancora sistemare un po' di cose e ora ho da fare, stasera scrivo come utilizzarlo, ma soprattutto come risolvere quel problema con jai... era molto più stupido di quanto pensassi :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffo wrote:
devo ancora sistemare un po' di cose e ora ho da fare, stasera scrivo come utilizzarlo, ma soprattutto come risolvere quel problema con jai... era molto più stupido di quanto pensassi :)

E magari dicci su che hardware lo stai facendo andare
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fedeliallalinea wrote:
E magari dicci su che hardware lo stai facendo andare

nn va benissimo, però va... c'è anche un modo per usarlo da user e nn da root, dopo posto tutto per bene, ora devo andare... cmq l'hardware è un p4 2400 mhz, 512 mb di ram, geforce4 mx440 da 64mb...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok raffo poi posta il modo.... cosi' magari riesco ad usarlo.... 8)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

la soluzione ai tuoi problemi è facilissima, basta che copi i file che sono in /usr/share/sun-jai-bin/lib in
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JAVA_HOME\jre\lib\ext\jai_core.jar
JAVA_HOME\jre\lib\ext\mlibwrapper_jai.jar
JAVA_HOME\jre\lib\ext\jai_codec.jar

per java_home si intende dove è installata la tua home java che se hai installato con portage è in /opt/sun-jdk-x.x.x

have fun :D
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grande Raffo.... problema risolto.....
ma ne e' appena sorto un altro.... nessun problema per lg3d-dev
per la modalita' nativa pero' carica.... e resta schermo nero.... tuttavia non si blocca nulla..... ho aspettato qualche minuto... non credo impieghi cosi' tanto ad aprirsi.... tu che dici?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok c'e' qualche cosa che non va... ecco il log:
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LGCONFIG file:///opt/lg3d/bin/../etc/lg3d/lgconfig_mp_x.xml
JAVA_HOME /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.01
LGX11HOME /opt/lg3d/bin/../ext/lg3d-x11
X Server Version
dev-0-6-1-18
/opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.01/bin /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/kde/3.3/bin/ /opt/lg3d/bin/../lib/i386
/opt/lg3d/bin/../ext/lg3d-x11/exports/lib:/bin:/opt/lg3d/bin/../lib/i386:/opt/lg3d/bin/../lib/i386/dso
Listening for transport dt_socket at address: 8888
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:04 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main main
INFO: LG Build Time : 19/01/05 14:41:52 o'clock PST
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:04 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main main
INFO: Java Version  : 1.5.0_01   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:04 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main main
INFO: Java Vendor   : Sun Microsystems Inc.   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:04 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main main
INFO: OS Name       : Linux   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:04 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main main
INFO: OS Arch       : i386   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:04 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main main
INFO: OS Version    : 2.6.9y   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:04 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.LgConfig loadConfig
INFO: Loading config file:/opt/lg3d/bin/../etc/lg3d/lgconfig_mp_x.xml
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:05 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.LgConfig loadWindow
WARNING: The required XML file: Cannot read / write the file.
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:06 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.AppConnectorPrivate platformCheck
SEVERE: Project Looking Glass requires Java 3D 1.3.2, but version 1.3.1 is installed
You will almost certainly see NullPointerExceptions
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:06 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl initialize
CONFIG: Display configuration overridden by lg.displayconfigurl property to file:/opt/lg3d/bin/../etc/lg3d/displayconfig/j3d1x1-nbfs
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl initialize
INFO: com.sun.j3d.utils.universe.ConfigContainer@a010ba
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: Java 3D version                   : 1.3.1   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: Java 3D vendor                    : Blackdown Java-Linux & Sun Microsystems, Inc.   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: Java 3D specification.version     : 1.3   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: Java 3D specification.vendor      : Sun Microsystems, Inc.   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: Java 3D renderer                  : OpenGL   
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: Renderer version                  : 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.1)   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: doubleBufferAvailable             : true   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: stereoAvailable                   : false   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: sceneAntialiasingAvailable        : false   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: sceneAntialiasingNumPasses        : 0   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureColorTableSize             : 0   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureEnvCombineAvailable        : true   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureCombineDot3Available       : true   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureCombineSubtractAvailable   : true   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: texture3DAvailable                : true   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureCubeMapAvailable           : true   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureSharpenAvailable           : false   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureDetailAvailable            : false   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureFilter4Available           : false   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureAnisotropicFilterDegreeMax : 1.0   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureBoundaryWidthMax           : 1   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureWidthMax                   : 2048   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureHeightMax                  : 2048   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureLodOffsetAvailable         : false   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureLodRangeAvailable          : true   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: textureUnitStateMax               : 8   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl logRenderingInfo
INFO: compressedGeometry                : 1.0.2   
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:07 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl initialize
CONFIG: Field of View : 42.979197578737015
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:08 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl initializeFoundationWinSys
INFO: Initialising Foundation WinSys org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.WinSysX11
gnu.x11.extension.NotFoundException: XFIXES
   at gnu.x11.extension.Extension.<init>(Extension.java:28)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.X11XfixesExt.<init>(X11XfixesExt.java:73)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.ExtensionSet.<init>(ExtensionSet.java:56)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.WinSysX11.initX11Connections(WinSysX11.java:193)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.WinSysX11.<init>(WinSysX11.java:149)
   at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:39)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:27)
   at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:494)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl.initializeFoundationWinSys(DisplayServerControl.java:390)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl.initialize(DisplayServerControl.java:192)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.AppConnectorPrivate.getAppConnector(AppConnectorPrivate.java:103)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.socketconnector.ServerHandler.<init>(ServerHandler.java:76)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main.main(Main.java:42)
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:08 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl initializeFoundationWinSys
SEVERE: Failed to instantiate FoundationWinSys: org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.WinSysX11
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:39)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:27)
   at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:494)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl.initializeFoundationWinSys(DisplayServerControl.java:390)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl.initialize(DisplayServerControl.java:192)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.AppConnectorPrivate.getAppConnector(AppConnectorPrivate.java:103)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.socketconnector.ServerHandler.<init>(ServerHandler.java:76)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main.main(Main.java:42)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Cannot initialize X11 extensions
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.WinSysX11.initX11Connections(WinSysX11.java:196)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.WinSysX11.<init>(WinSysX11.java:149)
   ... 9 more
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
   at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:39)
   at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:27)
   at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:494)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl.initializeFoundationWinSys(DisplayServerControl.java:390)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl.initialize(DisplayServerControl.java:192)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.AppConnectorPrivate.getAppConnector(AppConnectorPrivate.java:103)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.socketconnector.ServerHandler.<init>(ServerHandler.java:76)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main.main(Main.java:42)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Cannot initialize X11 extensions
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.WinSysX11.initX11Connections(WinSysX11.java:196)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.WinSysX11.<init>(WinSysX11.java:149)
   ... 9 more
Jan 25, 2005 10:09:08 PM org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.socketconnector.ServerHandler <init>
SEVERE: Unhandled exception, see /var/tmp/lgserver.log for details.
java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to instantiate FoundationWinSys: org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.fws.x11.WinSysX11: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl.initializeFoundationWinSys(DisplayServerControl.java:400)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.DisplayServerControl.initialize(DisplayServerControl.java:192)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.AppConnectorPrivate.getAppConnector(AppConnectorPrivate.java:103)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.socketconnector.ServerHandler.<init>(ServerHandler.java:76)
   at org.jdesktop.lg3d.displayserver.Main.main(Main.java:42)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

è chiaro che c'è qualcosa che nn va, posta /var/tmp/lgserver.log

sto ancora postando da lg3d. prima ha crashato, si notano i passi in avanti fatti dalla versione precedente, ma mi sembra ancora inutilizzabile. firefox mi ha dato diversi problemi, mentre konqueror funziona perfettamente. anche gaim va alla perfezione. ogni tanto mi si blocca il mouse, come per un momentaneo freeze. nn so se sia dovuto alla mia configurazione o a lg che nn va bene....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok direi che posso rassegnarmi..... pare che siano i driver ATI in quanto provando con vesa si avvia tutto.... aspetto conferma da qualcuno con ATI..
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhm, allora, ho seguito l'how-to.. però purtroppo mi si grippa il sistema.. premetto subito che ho un Athlon Xp 2600+, 512Mb Ram.. e una NVIDIA GeForce Fx 5700..
coi driver nvidia-kernel 6693 .. ed è molto strano che si comporti così, dato che sul celeron 1,2 Ghz con una Geforce 4 e stessa quantità di ram. partiva.. però.. ci sto smadonnando su da tutto il giorno.. qualcuno di voi ha qualche idea?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@iridium103: ti consiglio di provare direttamente la nuova versione disponibile sul sito ufficiale e di installare le dipendenze a mano... almeno la versione è più utilizzabile... l'how-to di questo topic ormai è vecchio, se proprio vuoi installare la vecchia versione di lg3d ti basta un "emerge lookingglass-bin" dopo averlo smaskerato...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffo wrote:
@iridium103: ti consiglio di provare direttamente la nuova versione disponibile sul sito ufficiale e di installare le dipendenze a mano... almeno la versione è più utilizzabile... l'how-to di questo topic ormai è vecchio, se proprio vuoi installare la vecchia versione di lg3d ti basta un "emerge lookingglass-bin" dopo averlo smaskerato...

aaah occcccheeeei ... adesso provo.. vi faccio sapere piu tardi.. a dopoz ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

allora ho appena messo lg3d solo che se lo faccio partire come lg3d-dev mi funziona tranquillamente nelal finestra, mentere invece per farlo partire da sessione ho qualche problema.

vi pasto il log di errori:
Code:
(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)

(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found

Symbol RenderLineFixedEdgeInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a is unresolved!
Symbol RenderLineFixedEdgeInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a is unresolved!
Symbol RenderSampleFloorY from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a is unresolved!
Symbol RenderSampleCeilY from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a is unresolved!
Symbol RenderEdgeInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a is unresolved!
Symbol RenderEdgeInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a is unresolved!
Symbol RenderSampleFloorY from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a is unresolved!
Symbol RenderSampleCeilY from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a is unresolved!
Symbol noCompositeExtension from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol noCompositeExtension from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o is unresolved!

   *** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not
   *** be the reason for the server aborting.

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting


che problema è?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ciao ragazzi la installazione è andata per il meglio ma quando vado a lanciarlo sia da root che da utente ottengo questo risultato

Code:
~/java_lg3d/lg3d/bin/lg3d-dev
~/java_lg3d/lg3d/bin ~
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OSTYPE: Undefined variable.


avete un idea di che possa essere?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nessuno è in grado di aiutarmi allora? :)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mi rispondo da solo , se a qualcuno capitasse la stessa cosa che è capitata a me può risolvere con

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export OSTYPE="linux"
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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qualcuno ha qualche screenshoot... video.. di questo fantomatico looking glass ?!!??!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Li trovi sul sito della sun. Ora non ricordo la pagina ma se cerchi con google mi ricordo che c'ra un video che mostrava le funzionalità di questo WM.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

queste sono alcuni screenshot che ho fatto io. se nn funzionano copiate il link e incollatelo in una nuova finestra...
http://briscolona.altervista.org//lg.png
http://briscolona.altervista.org//lg1.png
http://briscolona.altervista.org//lg2.png
http://briscolona.altervista.org//lg3.png
http://briscolona.altervista.org//lg4.png
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragazzi dopo aver fatto tutto ho controllato e ricontrollato mi da questo problema che cosa puo essere....?
Code:
emerging by path implies --oneshot... adding --oneshot to options.

*** emerging by path is broken and may not always work!!!

Calculating dependencies -
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0_beta2" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.01 (masked by: package.mask)
# <axxo@gentoo.org>
# If you use 1.5 you will get sandbox violations on /dev/random
# please don't file any more bugs on that issue
#
# 1.5 defaults too -target 1.5 making downgrading to a 1.4(/1.3)
# impossible, see bug 65937 for more information/discussion

- dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0 (masked by: package.mask)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!    (dependency required by "x11-lg3d/lookingglass-0.5" [ebuild])


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

devi smaskerare sun-jdk-1.5.0 e poi ti basterà lanciare l'emerge... lascia perdere l'installazione della versione beta2 che è vecchia...
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Crash-Override
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

io ho risolto con il problema dell OSTYPE ma se ora lancio il dev da utente non succede nulla , mentre se lo lancio da root mi dice che manga java 3d 1.3.2 da notare che è correttamente installato , mentre se lancio il session mi appere lo splash della nvidia e poi schermata grigia con conseguente freeze della macchina, avete qualche idea in merito.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crash-Override wrote:
[...]mentre se lancio il session mi appere lo splash della nvidia e poi schermata grigia con conseguente freeze della macchina, avete qualche idea in merito.

Sinceramente non so, riscontro lo stesso problema. Ogni volta che faccio partire session da root viene una specie di schermata a codice a barre, e non é molto simpatico.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grazie per avermi risposto....ma come faccio a smaskerare "sun-jdk-1.5.0" non sono pratico al riguardo e per quanto riguarda la versione come faccio a prenderne una piu aggiornata?
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