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atrader42
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 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:30 am Post subject: ATI drivers 8.10.19 released |
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| Has anyone tried them? Unfortunately, I'm on a machine that I don't have the time to deal with driver issues on atm, but I'd really like to know how it does in terms of fixing peoples' complaints. I haven't seen an ebuild, but the driver is here |
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Marctraider
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:44 am Post subject: |
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I wonder what changed now...
Damn i really want composite working
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| Wonder if its going to work with the 2.6.11 RCs now. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:58 am Post subject: |
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Straight off the release notes:
| Quote: | New Features
The ATI Proprietary Linux software driver version introduces support for the ATI FireGL V5000.
Issues Resolved
This section provides information on issues that have been resolved with the latest release of the ATI Proprietary Linux driver. This includes the following:
* Starting X on a DVI display no longer results in noisy or flickering output with some displays
* The Monitor autodetect no longer finds a phantom CRT display if none is connected either RADEON X800, X700, X300, or FireGL V5100, and V5000
* The ATI Proprietary Linux driver now works with Apple Cinema display flat panels in single link mode
* fglrxconfig now produces a proper xorg.conf X Server configuration file
* Running certain 3D applications no longer result in system hangs on x86_64 systems with RADEON 9100/8500 series or FireGL 8800 installed
* Kernel Module Driver compile support for Kernel 2.6.10
* XVideo support now available in dualhead configuration
* 3D geometry corruption no longer occurs with Celestia and other 3d apps
* A blank screen or X failing to load and returning to the console no longer occurs under X.Org 6.8 when using the config file generated by fglrxconfig
* 64 Bit systems with 4 or more GB of RAM no longer hang the system while loading the X Server
Known Issues
The following section provides a brief description of known issues associated with the latest version of ATI Proprietary Linux driver. These issues include:
* TV Display is Corrupt After Switching Resolutions. Further information on this issue can be found at: http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4756.html
* Attempting to resume from system suspension results in the system failing to respond. Further information on this issue can be found at: http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4746.html
* Enabling Quad Buffer Stereo results in 2D graphics corruption under XFree86. Further information on this issue can be found at: http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4747.html
* Running two X servers simultaneously results in the system failing to respond. Further information on this issue can be found at: http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4748.html
* A blank screen may appear momentarily when X starts to load. An error message (or similar) may also appear on the text console. Further information on this issue can be found at: http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4755.html
TV Display is Corrupt After Switching Resolutions
This information applies to the following system configurations:
* ATI Proprietary Linux Driver 3.7.1 and later
* TV Out enabled in fglrxconfig
* Big Desktop or Dual Head monitor layout is used
This issue does not occur in Clone Mode or when the TV is the only connected display.
Upon using the resolution keyboard shortcuts (ctrl-alt-+) or (ctrl-alt--) to switch resolution of the XFree86 Desktop, the display will be off center or completely corrupt.
The TV display is not usable in this state and it is not possible to get back to a stable resolution once this has happened. A restart is required.
3D Linux Applications Corrupt or Hang with Force Multi-Sample Visuals Enabled
This information applies to the following system configurations:
* ATI Proprietary Linux Driver 3.7.1 and later
* "force multi-sample visuals" option enabled in fglrxconfig
A 3D window might appear normally, but will corrupt the contents of any other window placed above it.
The 3D display may also appear corrupt. Lines, polygons, and highlights will be visible, but textures will not. The application is not usable in this state and may crash after a few seconds.
This issue does not occur on all systems or monitor configurations. Symptoms may vary between different applications.
X Fails to Load on Systems with Linux Kernel Version 2.6.x
This information applies to the following system configurations:
* Linux kernel version 2.6.x
* Any ATI Linux driver
A blank screen may appear momentarily when X starts to load. The following error message (or similar) may appear on the text console or in /var/log/XFree86.0.log:
(EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error ""xf86_ENODEV""xf86_ENODEV""
This is not a problem with the display driver.
Version 2.6 kernels require a second kernel module in addition to agpgart, which should be named similar to the manufacturer of your motherboard AGP chipset. This error message should occur if the other agp module is not loaded.
This issue can be worked around as follows:
1. First make sure that agpgart is loading properly.
2. To find out which AGP controller your motherboard uses, issue the following command: lspci | grep AGP
3. To find a list of AGP related kernel modules installed on your machine, issue the following command and look for a module (*.ko file) that suits your AGP Controller: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/agp
4. Use the modprobe command (as root) to load the module. For example: On a motherboard using a VIA® AGP Controller, you would load the via-agp.ko using modprobe as follows (notice that the trailing .ko is omitted): modprobe via-agp
Check the modprobe manpage for more information on loading kernel modules.
5. To verify that the AGP module is already loaded, run lsmod as root. With the X server running and the connection established, the usage count of this module must be greater than zero.
If you cannot find a suitable agp module for your motherboard, then you may want to upgrade to the latest version of the Linux kernel, or check your motherboard manufacturer's website for more information.
3D Applications Produce Open of Shared Memory Object Failed Error Message
This information applies to the following system configurations:
* ATI Proprietary Linux Driver version 3.14.6 and later
The following may occur when trying to run certain 3D applications:
* 3D image appears corrupt or blank
* Missing textures
* System performance drops sharply
The following error message may also appear numerous times:
FGLTexMgr: open of shared memory object failed (Function not implemented) __FGLTexMgrCreateObject: __FGLTexMgrSHMmalloc failed! fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrCreateObject failed!
The display driver requires POSIX Shared Memory to be enabled on the system in order to run these applications correctly. This feature should be enabled by default on most current Linux distributions, but may be disabled intentionally by some system administrators or not included in older distributions.
To enable POSIX Shared Memory on your system, perform the following as root:
1. Add the following line to /etc/fstab (if it isn't there already): tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
2. Mount shared memory as follows: mount /dev/shm
3. Issue the following command to check that it mounted properly: mount | grep "shm"
If the mount was successful, then the following output (or similar) should appear:
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
At this point, POSIX Shared Memory is enabled. Your 3D applications should run properly and the error message above should no longer occur.
If the output from this command is blank, then the mount failed.
If /dev/shm fails to mount, then this feature may not be turned on in your Linux kernel. In this case we recommend upgrading to a more recent Linux kernel, or contacting your Linux Distribution vendor for more information on enabling POSIX Shared Memory. |
For those of you wondering why I, a staunch ati-hater/nvidia-proponent am interested in this, stay tuned to nitro-sources.
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Lokheed
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Looks like they fixed my old problem:
A blank screen or X failing to load and returning to the console no longer occurs under X.Org 6.8 when using the config file generated by fglrxconfig |
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Tiger683
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| Darckness wrote: |
For those of you wondering why I, a staunch ati-hater/nvidia-proponent am interested in this, stay tuned to nitro-sources. |
Well put...
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Scratalacha
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Eh, I ended up making my own ebuild from the ATI site and beating the portage update by about 30 min. It has actually fixed some random lockup issues I was having previous. Lets hope it continues. 
Also, the new ebuild seems to not be using a few of the previous patches... can we take this as a good sign?
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Arainach
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They compile and install fine on 2.6.11-rc3, but I've got no DRM, so apparently I'll have to update my kernel config. I think that I'll upgrade to 2.6.11-rc4 while I'm at it. Either way, ought to be interesting. At least they're putting out releases. Now I just want xcompmgr and Windows speeds. All in due time, I suppose.
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Scratalacha
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Hahah.. good luck with your nitro kernel. I bet thats TOF to configure. Either way, I just struggle to get mine to work most of the time. ATI has really turned me off to their merchandise through this entire ordeal.
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Luka21
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| seems ati has fixed more then they say in release notes - i can now play doom3 w/ ultra low quality and things really feel alot faster; huge FPS difference compared to 8.8.25. |
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Doesn't compile on amd64 with 2.6.11-rc4, here's the error
| Code: | CC [M] /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.o
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c: In function `firegl_stub_putminor':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:509: warning: `inter_module_put' is deprecated (declared at include/linux/module.h:578)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:511: warning: `inter_module_unregister' is deprecated (declared at include/linux/module.h:574)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c: In function `firegl_stub_register':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:531: warning: `inter_module_register' is deprecated (declared at include/linux/module.h:573)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:562: warning: `inter_module_put' is deprecated (declared at include/linux/module.h:578)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c: In function `firegl_get_user_ptr':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:1078: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c: In function `firegl_put_user_ptr':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:1110: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:1110: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:1110: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:1110: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:2216:41: macro "pud_offset" passed 3 arguments, but takes just 2
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c: In function `do_vm_shm_nopage':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:2216: error: `pud_offset' undeclared (first use in this function)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:2216: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:2216: error: for each function it appears in.)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c: In function `__ke_vm_phys_addr_str':
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:2597: error: structure has no member named `pud'
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:2585: warning: unused variable `pud_p'
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c: At top level:
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:2686: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
make[1]: *** [/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.o] Error 1
make: *** [_module_/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.10.19/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod] Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.11-rc4'
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total_planlos
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:26 am Post subject: |
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now with my ATI 9200 MOBIL:
6348 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1269.600 FPS
6950 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1390.000 FPS
7492 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1498.400 FPS
7489 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1497.800 FPS
Broken pipe
with ati-drivers 3.14.6 850.000FPS! with 8.8.25 1050.000FPS!
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forbjok
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Does this mean ATI are actually improving their drivers? Who'd have thought...
Maybe my laptop's M9 will actually be useable in the near future.
(Don't get me wrong though - that's also the only ATI chip I have that isn't from the early 90s - and likely, will be for a long time. I hope.  ) |
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Bill Cosby
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| forbjok wrote: | | Does this mean ATI are actually improving their drivers? |
Yes, and whohooo, I came on my AMD64 with M10 with the old drivers (8.8.25) on 1200fps with glxgears and with the new drivers (8.10.19) on 1900fps
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hiroki
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| total_planlos wrote: | now with my ATI 9200 MOBIL:
6348 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1269.600 FPS
6950 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1390.000 FPS
7492 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1498.400 FPS
7489 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1497.800 FPS
Broken pipe
with ati-drivers 3.14.6 850.000FPS! with 8.8.25 1050.000FPS! |
well. ati-drivers-3.14.6 is a bad base for comparison. i remember older versions of ati-drivers, which were noticeably faster. and with each new version in the 3.* branch the speed decreased 
so maybe something earlier than ati-drivers-3.7 would be a good to compare with. let's say they are on a good way to improve the speed more and more.. and even to depass the speed of some older drivers...
but.. for me the speed is only the second point on my priority list. the important thing to me is, that they are accellerated and a lto faster than the radeon-driver from xorg. so that's what matters. as i don't play games.... i'd prefer to see xorg's composite working with ati-drivers  so i could (finally) use it.. and without annoying slowness of my desktop.. even without composite enabled and using the radeon-driver my desktop is noticeably slower.. (e.g. window/desktop switching, scrolling long pages in mozilla). so with composite enabled it's even slower...
please gimme some ati-drivers-opengl-accellerated-composite go ati go  |
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Lepaca Kliffoth
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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They had promised a february release regardless of having released a version this january. I'm seeing a company that is showing much more interest in linux than it had only a few months ago and it can't be bad. I see long time ati users are very frustrated, I'd like to tell them: just look at the trend. We (=linux users) are getting more attention, I think we're really starting to carve our place into the info-world. Windows is info-roadkill, it will kill itself out in a few years.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Lepaca Kliffoth wrote: | | They had promised a february release regardless of having released a version this january. I'm seeing a company that is showing much more interest in linux than it had only a few months ago and it can't be bad. I see long time ati users are very frustrated, I'd like to tell them: just look at the trend. We (=linux users) are getting more attention, I think we're really starting to carve our place into the info-world. Windows is info-roadkill, it will kill itself out in a few years. |
ATI had their chance with me, as far as I'm concerned they blew it. If the open graphics project doesn't come to fruition my next card is gonna be Nvidia.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Darckness wrote: | Straight off the release notes:
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* XVideo support now available in dualhead configuration
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Yay! Finally. |
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| Vagabond wrote: |
ATI had their chance with me, as far as I'm concerned they blew it. If the open graphics project doesn't come to fruition my next card is gonna be Nvidia.
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Yes, thanks, I see your point. Can we get back to what we were saying while you're off buying your new card?
I tried the new drivers and they are obviously better. Much better. UT2004 barely fails being smooth (everything on the highest setting). Can anyone confirm this? I'm testing the drivers on the latest gentoo-dev-sources in portage compiled with genkernel and using genkernel's own configuration, let's see if different kernels amount to different experiences. I'll try them with the latest 2.6.10 nitro please someone else post his/her experience too. Oh silly me I almost forgot - I've got a radeon 9800 pro 128MBytes
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Just in case anyone missed this, as it's right at the start of the release notes: | Quote: | | This release provides improved driver stability and 2D acceleration performance. |
I have noticed that 2D seems a bit snappier, which is rather nice.
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GlooM
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Major success here:
Radeon 9800 Pro
ati-drivers-8.8.25
glxgears -- ~3320fps
ati-drivers-8.10.19
glxgears -- ~4620fps
Lets hope ATI keeps up the good work |
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ruomad
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success for me, but I had to add some patches for 2.6.11-rc4.
otherwise it failed sort of silently with drm module not built
patches I found somewhere googling
Now it works fine and a bit better than wityh 8.8.25 (1600 fps vs 1200 fps) on my M10 |
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Pleun
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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hmm, not really working here. They installed fine, but from the moment i try glxgears, my laptop locks up. Any suggestions?
edit: DRI should be loaded & working btw. |
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Pleun
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| hmm, everything's working now, just copied my old xorg.conf. Weird, thought I had setup everything right. Anyway, getting 1362 fps now with glxgears, while i had 952 with 8.8.25 |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Also tremendous performance improvements here:
fgl_gears in 8.8.25 ---------> ~650fps
fgl_gears in 8.10.10 --------> ~860fps
glxgears in 8.10.19 ---------> ~4490fps
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