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pksings Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 110 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:34 am Post subject: Gentoo no more for my laptop |
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I initially installed it because I researched it, it was well supported, worked really, really well.
And it does, most of the time. Yeah, there was a significant learning curve, especially with etc-update, I lost a lot of config files. But it ran really solid if I paid attention.
In the last 4 months I have had a number of problems, one of which ultimately led to me formating the machine this morning and installing a different, binary distribution so I
could get some work done. And it took trying all of the 2.6.9 kernels to get my sensors AND usb working at the same time, what a fiasco that was.
I never did get my Clie to sync. And it worked the first time with Ubuntu.
I'm going to keep my server on it, it's really a pain to change. But my laptop is now running Ubuntu.
Thanks for all the hard work, I do appreciate it very much. There is an incredible amount of stuff to track, change and keep working, and all you maintainers do an incredible job. But I can't keep foolin' with it, I need something that just works. And initially it did with Gentoo, it just didn't anymore after a number of updates. Ubuntu isn't running on a really super new kernel, but everything works, USB, cdwriter, OpenGL, gpilotd, jpilot. Evolution with the Exchange connector, everything that I absolutely need. I guess time will tell how well it stays that way.
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etnoy Apprentice
Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Posts: 255 Location: Västerås, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Goodbye. _________________ The md5sum of the above post is 06280ccd85ef9deb49c336e7945f4b5c
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Titeuf l33t
Joined: 19 Jun 2004 Posts: 759 Location: Middelkerke, Belgium
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I also love the It Just Works aproach of Ubuntu, but because its package manager isn't as good as portage IMHO, I back to gentoo. |
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aqua26 Guru
Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 313 Location: India
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Titeuf wrote: | I also love the It Just Works aproach of Ubuntu, but because its package manager isn't as good as portage IMHO, I back to gentoo. |
Welcome Back. _________________ registered linux user #380271 |
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Sayonara n00b
Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 18 Location: Germany, NRW
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: It just works!... |
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I have this "it just works" experience with Gentoo. Most of the default settings are fine for me. The portage system is just awesome and all the helping tools are just what I need.
I had Gentoo on my workstation for over two years. Due that time my harddisk, mainboard, cpu and some other hardware parts changed, but it was never a problem to adapt my system to the new environment. I just had to reinstall the system once recently, because I had messed up the compiler and lots of libs. Repairing would have take much more time, than reinstalling the whole system.
I now also have Gentoo running on my Twinhead Efio! 123A laptop. I emerged the software and drivers,...and it just works! I'm sitting here, battery powered, usb wlan stick plugged in and connected and typing this posting. The CPU runs on low frequency to save power. Standby and hibernate was not a problem.
The developers here, do a very good job to provide a stable, very usable and maybe most powerful GNU/Linux distribution you can ever get.
I've tried lots of distribution, but only Gentoo is really usable for me.
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RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE for Linux newbies!
Debian for servers!
Gentoo for geeks!
...and Windows for bluescreen! |
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ebrostig Bodhisattva
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 3152 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Another exmaple of PEBKAC!
Erik _________________ 'Yes, Firefox is indeed greater than women. Can women block pops up for you? No. Can Firefox show you naked women? Yes.' |
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qubix Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 146 Location: Warsaw/Poland
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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I've also been getting sick with gentoo on my ibm 600x since evolution 2.0.2 came stable. The spamd did awsome work, but a pIII with 384 MB ram was not enough.... i ran openbox.
The sollution was obvious - i got a new lappy And i confirm - the "just works" ideology goes well with ibm x31. Even suspend-to-ram on acpi runs smooth _________________ qubix |
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nadi Apprentice
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 280 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Gentoo is stable and nice, but when I bought my IBM thinkpad T40p two years ago, I could only activate the most basic hardware, but not the wlan, bluetooth and all the other awesomes hardware it supported. And I used alot of time. A lot. So I am now using dual distribution, gentoo for programming, and SuSe for all the toys my laptop supports.
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shash Apprentice
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 220 Location: India
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I've also been getting sick with gentoo on my ibm 600x since evolution 2.0.2 came stable. The spamd did awsome work, but a pIII with 384 MB ram was not enough.... i ran openbox. |
PIII with 256 RAM here and I'm quite fine, even at load! |
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man Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 75
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:57 am Post subject: |
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ebrostig wrote: | Another exmaple of PEBKAC!
Erik |
what that mean eric?
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tihkal Apprentice
Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 225
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Google is your friend
PEBKAC = Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair |
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man Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 75
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
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ahhhh, hahahahah!
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Sayonara n00b
Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 18 Location: Germany, NRW
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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shash wrote: | Quote: | I've also been getting sick with gentoo on my ibm 600x since evolution 2.0.2 came stable. The spamd did awsome work, but a pIII with 384 MB ram was not enough.... i ran openbox. |
PIII with 256 RAM here and I'm quite fine, even at load! |
My laptop also runs with 256MB, - 8MB for the onboard graphic chip. Even KDE is running smoothly and swap is only used rarely. |
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odegard Guru
Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Posts: 324 Location: Trondheim, NO
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:05 am Post subject: |
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p233 mmx with xfce4... it's a dream |
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sarah_t_s n00b
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 21
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:33 am Post subject: |
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I have to admit Gentoo on 32bit has always been a case of "it just works" for the most part (the weird Epia MII PC Card memory hole not withstanding... but I've yet to find a distro or kernel that can work around this).
emerge and portage are simply fantastic for getting the newest patches/bug fixes/versions of software and considering I've managed to tie a lot of other systems in knots by doing strange stuff (I've broken YaST, RPM, APT in some quite colourful ways) the fact that it's survived my malicious conduct is quite impressive.
True compiling from source can be a right git, spent two days fiddling with KDE 3.3.2 trying to get kdelibs working... nadda, but the stateful way it handles things like webapps is fantastic for me, screen a session wham in emerge <fishcakes> and leave it alone to build a webserver for me.
I've yet to try it on a laptop through, the work stinkpad is off limits for playing and I'm dubious of the ATi 64bit drivers for my personal laptop, but I can feel it fast being the time to give binning windows another shot. |
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halz n00b
Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 14 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:49 am Post subject: |
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I really can't see a laptop being a practical hardware platform for Gentoo, due to its by-design requirement to build from source at some point (..unless you just happen to have a server on the same network that can be tied up with builds)
I debated using Gentoo as my linux partition on the corporate laptop, which was at the time a Thinkpad T22 PIII 800Mhz decked out with 256MB RAM, but after realizing that it took 2 days of compiling on my AMD XP1800+ for a base-level working system.. it was obvious I had to go with something else that didn't require so much CPU time to get up and running. |
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aqua26 Guru
Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 313 Location: India
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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halz wrote: | I really can't see a laptop being a practical hardware platform for Gentoo, due to its by-design requirement to build from source at some point (..unless you just happen to have a server on the same network that can be tied up with builds)
I debated using Gentoo as my linux partition on the corporate laptop, which was at the time a Thinkpad T22 PIII 800Mhz decked out with 256MB RAM, but after realizing that it took 2 days of compiling on my AMD XP1800+ for a base-level working system.. it was obvious I had to go with something else that didn't require so much CPU time to get up and running. |
u can use distcc to distributed compiling. which reduces the time of compiling.
almost to half if u have the sme machine. if u have a better machin u can reduce further. i had put my box in working in 5hrs. while using distcc. it is a really amazing tool. _________________ registered linux user #380271 |
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