2.6.11-rc5-nitro0: Fear And Loathing In intermodule.c

discomfitor · l33t Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None

DISCLAIMER:
This patchset is not an official linux-kernel-branch. Anyone using it does so at their own risk. Neither the patchset-maintainers (ie anyone from the NITRO-DEV team which is currently comprised of Darckness, Tiger683, and seppe) nor any of the authors of the patches included herein can be held responsible for any sort of damage caused by this software.

EDIT: Whoops...we screwed up. Ignore all references to npl. Next time I'll consult my attorney before attempting any sort of legal related document. Sticking to kernel-patching from now on...

REISER4 PEOPLE: USE 8K STACKS!

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feld · Guru Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 593 Location: USA

i'll slap this on my box when u get the experimental ready.

keep up the good work Darckness

-Feld
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Arainach · l33t Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 609

But 2.6.11-rc4 works so nicely with EVERYTHING! Must resist..... Losing.... willpower.... Must... upgrade.... kernel......
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hermes_jr · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:17 am Post subject:

5 minutes of speed and stability... and counting...

Tiger683 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:

Anyone can confirm stability of reiser4?

Its important to know for further work

T
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feld · Guru Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 593 Location: USA

I've been using Reiser4 since like the day after Xmas. Not a single problem here. Although reports by other users have pointed to information showing that you should NOT use Reiser4 with the Staircase Scheduler because it decreases the filesystem's performance.

I'm currently experimenting and testing that information out by using Love sources with Nicksched / Genetic Anticipatory. So far it actually DOES seem faster in hard drive access situations.

-Feld
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< bmg505> I think the first line in reiserfsck is

if (random(65535)< 65500) { hose(partition); for (i=0;i<100000000;i++) print_crap(); }

Tiger683 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject:

This was not my point.
I have mailed with nick and he will send me new nicksched asap,

my question was about _this_ release, because we used a very recent r4 version (not the mm one..its old)

PS: the most experimental version with REALTIME-PREEMPT will be out sometime today,
i allready managed to workout the build issues with reiser4 and most probably itll also have nvidia and ati driver issues fixed.

cheers,

T
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Robin79 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject:

must test it

gotta love if this work for my reiserfs 4
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rmh3093 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject:

where did this "new" reiser4 code come from, and does it contain any new features, I WANT THE REPACKER WORKING so bad!!! lol
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pifactorial · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject:

So the sekrit super-cool insane nitro patch will be in the experimental version? I've nearly lost my mind waiting for IT :twisted:

. You nitro devs are so mean to us. :cry:

All will be forgiven soon...

discomfitor · l33t Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None

rmh3093: It's the newest reiser4 from namesys and a bunch of extra stuff from their mailing lists.

pifactorial: IT (as we affectionately refer to it) will be in 2.6.11 when we make a release for that. If IT works. As of now we're still working on IT.

Realtime is go.
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Robin79 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:

resierfs4 works good for me in this one but still i have to patch to get my networkcard to work the sk98lin in the kernel dosent work for me.. will try it for awhile... thanx what is that TUX that are in network section??
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codergeek42 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject:

[off-topic]

I'm pretty sure you're violating the GPL by having that advertisement addition. The GPL distinctly disallows any restrictions other than those explicitly given within the terms and conditions that the GPL specifies.

_troll_ · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject:

feld · Guru Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 593 Location: USA

ugh... i just saw that NPL....

sorry to say but I cannot run your patchset anymore.

If a product for the community that is supposed to be GPL'd that isnt even your own original work gets put under a bogus license like that then I want nothing to do with it.

Come on guys... all you had to do was say "if you use Nitro patches and use them elsewhere please let them know where you found them -- from Nitro Sources" -- but even that is trivial considering the fact that you could always claim you got the patches from the original author / some mailing list just like you guys probably did.

-Feld
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< bmg505> I think the first line in reiserfsck is

if (random(65535)< 65500) { hose(partition); for (i=0;i<100000000;i++) print_crap(); }

discomfitor · l33t Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None

NOTE: The npl has been discontinued due to the fact that I didn't read through it carefully enough. The general idea was that I find it irritating when other patchsets BLATANTLY rip off the work that nitro does without giving any credit whatsoever. I suppose from now on I'll just go point it out to them instead of trying to limit it.

SUMMARY: Move along people, there's nothing to see here.

codergeek42: Thanks for not being overly offensive about it. I appreciate your wisdom as always.

_troll_: You are aptly named. Congratulations, for I am almost inspired enough by your insanity to respond to your trolling. Luckily I am not that stupid.

feld: It IS our original work. I have yet to see another patchset that incorporates nearly as much time and energy into creating new material for the community. Sure, maybe we don't write all the patches ourselves, but the amount of time that Tiger683 spent on the realtime version is proof that quite a bit of work goes into this. I would estimate that he spent approximately one entire week (168 hours) working on it. Is it so wrong to want to be given credit for that kind of effort?
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rmh3093 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject:

why can we all just get along
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Tiger683 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject:

NOT all, but alright, lets say 90% of the stuff isn't our programming work...

Now, the idea is avoid some misunderstandings when people see their patches, with modifications and fixes they
did, or even, like some upcoming nitro ones, where much of our custm work was put into, just getting used by any other guys without mentioning shit about it...

now, ok, npl will the be just a disclaimer soon,

but please,

don take it personally like that.

We want EVERYONE get credit where its due, not just us.

cheers,

T
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predatorfreak · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject:

Hah, thank god I left nitro right before all the NPL non-sense

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Chaosite · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject:

For archival purposes, I have salvaged a copy from an open tab I accidently laying around (lucky).

joecool · n00b Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 31

Hello, I am maintainer and co-founder of no-sources. Before this I was one of the contributers to love-sources. I'd like to bring up a few points darckness, other nitro-devs, and users of nitro sources.

Some of you may know that a few releases ago I decided not to include nicksched in my broken-out because people were taking patches that we specifically worked on and took many hours to hack. I got alot of feedback from this choice of mine, saying that this was against open-source ideals, and yeah, I understood. Next release I included it, and made a few notes as to how much time we put into each patch. I have always tried to include the person's name who wrote each patch.

Now, what you nitro devs are doing is PURELY wrong. First of all, to impose a restriction on the GPL is illegal, and i'll elaborate more on this later on in my post. Secondly, there have been patches you have taken directly out of love-sources, and other patchsets, and you have given NO credit. (I can think of your CFLAGS hack you used to include which came straight outta love and was written by OneOfOne, i can think of the make-menuconfig-name patch that you took most likely from love, written by DaMouse, and gave no credit to.) Oh yeah, can't forget to mention fbsplash and vesa-tng which are created by spock, yet i see no credit given there.

Nah, you guys are just attention whores. You want your names on everything. Well guess what, you don't do that by stomping out the names of the real contributors to this patchset, taking their work, then DEMANDING your name be upon it.

Now, I would have given you credit long ago, but if i ever need to pry a patch outta your broken-out directories, I will. And better yet, I'll do it without your credit, because you don't deserve it.

And to close off, I'd just like to mention, your "NPL" is completley invalid. And here is why, section 6 of the GPL:

6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms and conditions. You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein. You are not responsible for enforcing compliance by third parties to this License.

Darckness, this is not the concept of open-source. That is all, read this and understand. Nitro users, think twice about what the maintainers of your patchset are doing.

codergeek42 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject:

Actually, you cannot legally remove any credits information from the sources. For example, it would heva been quite simple for you to add your own name as a copyright holder of the modifications you made to the patches to make them work. If you did this and put your name as that copyright holder (in the sources themselves or in a CREDITS file or something similar), then it is explictly _against_ the GPL (under which Linux is released) to remove that copyright information.

Just my two cents...
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discomfitor · l33t Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None

joecool: Perhaps if you had read BOTH the npl AND the gpl, you wouldn't be acting so retardedly. The first item in the T&C for copying, distribution, and modification in the gpl states:

Robin79 · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:23 pm Post subject:

To bad it seems this kernel hardlocks et and i cant kill it and it takes 100% cpu have tried evryhting but cant kill the damm thing will try to remeerge it to see if it sorts the problem out....

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