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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:53 pm    Post subject: Still seeking an answer... Module loading dilema... Reply with quote

Another day... new gentoo problem! I am bothered by some of my dmesg printout that I've been unable to correct:
Code:
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
hw_random: RNG not detected


A search of the forums has not helped much.

Is someone famiiar with this issue and willing to point me in the right direction?

Thanks much to anyone who can...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:21 am    Post subject: Solved the hw_random line.... Reply with quote

I eliminated one of the bothersome line in my dmesg output:
Code:
hw_random: RNG not detected
by adding the instruction
Code:
#Not Loading on boot. Removed from sight.
hw_random
to the file
Code:
/etc/hotplug/blacklist


The other troublesome lines persist:
Code:
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware


I find this annoying, because I do not have an i810 chipset in my system and I don't understand why I would need the i810 TCO timer?

Pleeezzze... Does anyone have thoughts on this??

Thanks...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like this is a one way convesation... but what I want to find out is...

Why would my 2.4 kernel try to load software (i810 TCO timer) when I don't have the appropriate hardware (Intel 810) in my system?

I can't believe the answer is so difficult... I sure would like some help, though!

Thanks...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your on the right track, you need to add the name of the i810 TCO watchdog timer module ( i8xx_tco ) to /etc/hotplug/blacklist. Hopefully that will work. Check out what I found in the modules help entry:
Code:
On some motherboards the driver may fail to reset the chipset's
NO_REBOOT flag which prevents the watchdog from rebooting the
machine. If this is the case you will get a kernel message like
"failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware".

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cd into your /etc/modules.d directory.

Then do:
Code:

grep i810 *

There is probably an entry in a file reading:
Code:

alias char-major-10-130 i810-tco

I'm not sure if that's in the i386 file or a separate
i810-tco file. If it's a separate file with just that line
in it, delete the file from the modules.d directory.

If it's in the i386 file, just delete that one line.

Reboot and check your dmesg again.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion, Sith_Happens.... I'll give it a try


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure thing, I'm just sorry your topic got lost in the shuffle for so long. Again hope it works. :)

BTW: Is your nickname from Dr. Chandra from 2001: A Space Odyssey and 2010: Odyssey Two? Or is it just your name?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No luck wirh adding
Code:
( i8xx_tco ) to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
... dmesg still gives me:
Code:
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
intelfb: Framebuffer driver for Intel(R) 830M/845G/852GM/855GM/865G chipsets
intelfb: Version 0.7.7, written by David Dawes <dawes@tungstengraphics.com>
intelfb: 00:02.0: Intel(R) 845G, aperture size 128MB, stolen memory 892kB
intelfb: Acceleration is not supported for the Intel(R) 845G chipset.
intelfb: Initial video mode is 640x480-8@59.
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.24, 15:46:16 Feb 13 2005
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware


Also, cglackin, you wrote:
Quote:
cd into your /etc/modules.d directory.

Then do:
Code:

grep i810 *

There is probably an entry in a file reading:
Code:

alias char-major-10-130 i810-tco


I found no i810 string in the /etc/modules.d directory ...


Thanks, again...



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, I got the name wrong for the i810-tco driver.

It's really called i8xx_tco.

In the kernel config it's CONFIG_i8XX_TCO.

After you run 'make menuconfig' to set up
your kernel, the option to enable this is
under Device Drivers -> Character Devices ->
Watchdog Cards -> Watchdog Timer Support.

Your kernel was obviously compiled with
'Watchdog Timer Support' checked. The i8xx_tco
part was probably built as a module, along with
everything else in that tree.

I think you should still be able to find the
i8xx part in your /etc/modules.d directory.
( grep i8xx * )

That should return the bit about 'alias char-major'.

I would seriously consider checking your kernel
configuration in 'make menuconfig' if you still have
the .config used to compile the kernel.

I bet your kernel is compiled with a lot of other extra
baggage as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK... working my way through 'make menuconfig' does lead me to the following line:
Code:
<M>   Intel i810 TCO timer / Watchdog


also, I again came up empty with the following:
Quote:
I think you should still be able to find the
i8xx part in your /etc/modules.d directory.
( grep i8xx * )


Is it safe for me to just exclude the "Intel i810 TCO timer / Watchdog " entry in my kernel configuration, or is it not that simple?? Would that likely solve this issue, or must more things be done?

Sorry for the many questions, but this is all very new stuff for me. :?

Thanks...



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get rid of all watchdog support, that should fix your problem. Not just i8xx_tco but the top option to enable watchdog timing support in the first place. I thought I mentioned the name of the module in my original post ( i8xx_tco ). :?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Sith is right. I don't have ANY Watchdog Timer support
compiled in either.

Just say N to Watchdog Timer Support and the rest of the options
disappear.

I've seen a lot of kernel configs where every single thing in there
is compiled as a module.

Now is a good time to clean all that stuff out. Check the sound stuff
too. You might have every single ALSA and OSS sound card driver
being compiled every time you rebuild a kernel.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cglackin wrote:
Now is a good time to clean all that stuff out. Check the sound stuff
too. You might have every single ALSA and OSS sound card driver
being compiled every time you rebuild a kernel.
Yes, check this out too. Although this isn't related to this specfic error, when it comes to sound card support/video card support it's always a good idea to use the latest drivers in portage rather than those that "ship" with the kernel.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All right... as Sith has suggested
Quote:
Not just i8xx_tco but the top option to enable watchdog timing support in the first place
I have disabled all watchdog timing support....

I now have the following instructions:
Code:
Saving your kernel configuration...

*** End of Linux kernel configuration.
*** Check the top-level Makefile for additional configuration.
*** Next, you may run 'make bzImage', 'make bzdisk', or 'make install'.

bash-2.05b#


Are there some additional actions for me to take before this is done?? Please advise...

Thanks, again...



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope the only additional action you need to take is to compile and install the kernel. Since you don't have the chipset that the module is meant to take advantage of, you have no need of that support, and the module can't very well complain if it doesn't exist. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more fork in the road... compiling the kernel... How can I tell if it's sparc32 or sparc64??

Thanks...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
That should give you some idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmmm...... What petinent info frrom this?
Code:
bash-2.05b$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 15
model           : 2
model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz
stepping        : 7
cpu MHz         : 1992.647
cache size      : 128 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 2
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmovpat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid
bogomips        : 3971.48

bash-2.05b$
 


I don't get it... Is this a cpu issue?



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparc32 and Sparc64 are architectures seperate from x86, sparc is Scalable Processor ARChitecture. If you have a pentium, than it's neither sparc32 or sparc64. :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I must be on the right track... I am no longer faced with:
Code:
i810 TCO timer init: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
hw_random: RNG not detected
whenever I reboot!:D

Things are not totally clean, though... I now finish the boot sequence with new errors, but, for some reason, they don't appear in the dmesg output. They go something like the following:
Code:
i810_audio failed
...can't load module i810_audio
missing kernel or user mode driver i810_audio
insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.26-gento-r9/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o: insmod
module. No such device....


After installing the kernel there were several loading issues with alsa, so I re-emerged and reinstalled that. Otherwise, I have everything working satisfactorily!

Thanks for your patience...


If you have thughts about the new error messages, please let me know!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you forget to put CONFIG_810 back in?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guuess I may have... how do I put CONFIG_810 back in?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, it is CONFIG_CND_INTEL8X0. (now that I actually looked at my /usr/src/linux/.config file.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My linux/.config file has the following entries regarding 810:
Code:
CONFIG_AGP_I810=y
CONFIG_DRM_I810=m
CONFIG_DRM_I810_XFREE_41=y


It contains no references to 8x0.

Also, there is no mention of I810 in my list of hardware:
Code:
bash-2.05b# lshw
cag
    description: Space-saving Computer
    product: OptiPlex GX260
    vendor: Dell Computer Corporation
    serial: JKX9P21
    capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3
    configuration: boot=normal chassis=space-saving uuid=44454C4C-4B00-1058-8039-CAC04F503231
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       product: 00T606
       vendor: Dell Computer Corp.
       physical id: 0
       serial: ..CN6986133J2DA7.
       slot: PCI1
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: Dell Computer Corporation
          physical id: 0
          version: A05 (02/26/2003)
          size: 64KB
          capacity: 448KB
          capabilities: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect edd int13floppytoshiba int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer acpi usb agp ls120boot biosbootspecification netboot
     *-cpu
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 400
          version: 15.2.7
          slot: Microprocessor
          size: 2GHz
          capacity: 3060MHz
          clock: 400MHz
          capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid
          configuration: id=0
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 700
             size: 8KB
             capacity: 8KB
             capabilities: internal write-back data
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 701
             size: 128KB
             capacity: 128KB
             capabilities: internal varies unified
     *-memory
          description: System Memory
          physical id: 1000
          slot: System board or motherboard
          size: 512MB
          capacity: 1GB
        *-bank:0
             description: DIMM SDRAM Synchronous 266 MHz (3.8 ns)
             physical id: 0
             slot: DIMM_A
             size: 256MB
             clock: 266MHz (3.7594ns)
             configuration: width=64
        *-bank:1
             description: DIMM SDRAM Synchronous 266 MHz (3.8 ns)
             physical id: 1
             slot: DIMM_B
             size: 256MB
             clock: 266MHz (3.7594ns)
             configuration: width=64
     *-pci
          description: Host bridge
          product: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface
          vendor: Intel Corporation
          physical id: e8000000
          bus info: pci@00:00.0
          logical name: /dev/fb0
          version: 01
          clock: 33MHz
          capabilities: fb
          configuration: depth=8 frequency=60.00Hz mode=640x480 visual=pseudocolor xres=640 yres=480
          resources: iomemory:e8000000-efffffff
        *-display
             description: VGA compatible controller
             product: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@00:02.0
             version: 01
             size: 128MB
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: vga bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=intelfb
             resources: iomemory:f0000000-f7ffffff iomemory:ff680000-ff6fffff irq:16
        *-usb:0
             description: USB Controller
             product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d
             bus info: pci@00:1d.0
             version: 01
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=usb-uhci
             resources: ioport:ff80-ff9f irq:16
        *-usb:1
             description: USB Controller
             product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.1
             bus info: pci@00:1d.1
             version: 01
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=usb-uhci
             resources: ioport:ff60-ff7f irq:19
        *-usb:2
             description: USB Controller
             product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.2
             bus info: pci@00:1d.2
             version: 01
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=usb-uhci
             resources: ioport:ff40-ff5f irq:18
        *-usb:3
             description: USB Controller
             product: 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.7
             bus info: pci@00:1d.7
             version: 01
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci_hcd
             resources: iomemory:ffa00800-ffa00bff irq:23
           *-usbhost
                product: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB2
                vendor: Linux 2.4.26-gentoo-r9 ehci_hcd
                physical id: 0
                bus info: usb@1
                logical name: usb1
                version: 2.04
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=hub maxpower=0mA slots=6 speed=480.0MB/s
        *-pci
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 82801 PCI Bridge
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1e
             bus info: pci@00:1e.0
             version: 81
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
           *-network
                description: Ethernet controller
                product: 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller
                vendor: Intel Corporation
                physical id: c
                bus info: pci@01:0c.0
                logical name: eth0
                version: 02
                serial: 00:08:74:df:22:34
                size: 100Mbps
                clock: 66MHz
                capabilities: bus_master cap_list mii autonegotiation 100bt-fd 100bt 10bt-fd 10bt ethernet physical
                configuration: autonegociated=100bt broadcast=yes driver=e1000 driverversion=5.2.30.1-k1 duplex=full firmware=N/A ip=192.168.1.105 link=yes multicast=yes
                resources: iomemory:ff8e0000-ff8fffff ioport:ecc0-ecff irq:18
        *-isa UNCLAIMED
             description: ISA bridge
             product: 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f
             bus info: pci@00:1f.0
             version: 01
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master
        *-ide
             description: IDE interface
             product: 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.1
             bus info: pci@00:1f.1
             version: 01
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: ide bus_master
             configuration: driver=PIIX IDE
             resources: ioport:ffa0-ffaf iomemory:1ff00000-1ff003ff irq:18
           *-ide:0
                description: IDE Channel 0
                physical id: 0
                bus info: ide@0
                logical name: ide0
                clock: 33MHz
              *-disk
                   description: ATA Disk
                   product: WDC WD2500JB-00GVA0
                   vendor: Western Digital
                   physical id: 0
                   bus info: ide@0.0
                   logical name: /dev/hda
                   version: 08.02D08
                   serial: WD-WMAL72029669
                   size: 232GB
                   capabilities: ata dma lba iordy smart security pm
                   configuration: mode=udma5 smart=on
           *-ide:1
                description: IDE Channel 1
                physical id: 1
                bus info: ide@1
                logical name: ide1
                clock: 33MHz
              *-cdrom
                   description: IDE CD-ROM
                   product: TEAC CD-ROM CD-224E
                   physical id: 0
                   bus info: ide@1.0
                   logical name: /dev/hdc
                   version: D.9D
                   capabilities: packet atapi cdrom removable nonmagnetic dma lba iordy audio
                   configuration: mode=udma2
        *-serial UNCLAIMED
             description: SMBus
             product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation

             physical id: 1f.3
             bus info: pci@00:1f.3
             version: 01
             clock: 33MHz
             resources: ioport:dc80-dc9f irq:17
        *-multimedia
             description: Multimedia audio controller
             product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.5
             bus info: pci@00:1f.5
             version: 01
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=Intel ICH
             resources: ioport:d800-d8ff ioport:dc40-dc7f iomemory:ffa00400-ffa005ff iomemory:ffa00000-ffa000ff irq:17
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It really has me confused...


Thanks...



Chandra
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue on hand is missing Intel Audio 810, not the 9 other Intel 810s stuff.

Check for this in /usr/src/linux/.config

CONFIG_SND_I8X0=m

To make things easier, make it a "y"

# cd /usr/src/linux
# make && make modules_install && make install
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