World Of Warcraft Howto/Support UPDATED 3/25/05! OLD

flaZh · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Posts: 86

Err, don't understand half of your questions, I'm sorry.
It ran perfectly fine before, and it does in Windows(cept I get a huge lag there, that's why I'm running it in Linux).
It runs nice in wine, but it's still no hardware cursor, and as I said, the sound is too choppy, so I have to turn it off.
So I prefer using Cedega.
I got Wine off the cvs and I applied the two patches, of course.
The settings in WoW is at a minimum, terrain is slightly on and texture details is maxed, that's it.

I'm running the latest nvidia drivers.
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r0 · n00b Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 1

hi guys i've got the following problem, i managed to run WoW with wine-cvs (with texture corruptions) but if i filter out the "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object" extension the comp hangs after few secs at the login screen.
Same happens with cedega.

Why ?

i use an ati card (9600xt) and latest fglrx drivers.

Thanx in advance

The New Guy · Windows-free since Feb. 12, 2005

Septor · Apprentice Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 150

crap cards and buggy drivers are two different things... as far as hardware ATI is great... it is their drivers that are lagging behind. They are certainly improving in this area lately as well.

r0: Make sure you have "UseFastTLS" set to "2" in your xorg.conf. Try using the wine-20050310 build in portage with the try_5 patch listed above... you might have hit a CVS problem. wine-20050310 + try_5 patch works pretty well for me.

nempo · Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:

Waywocket · Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:51 am Post subject:

legine · Guru Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 555 Location: Germany

discomfitor · l33t Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None

Waywocket: Hardware cursor merely means that your graphics card renders the cursor instead of your cpu. This can result in speedups at times, but also has the possibility to create a glitchy cursor (such as in X if you have a nonstandard hw cursor on with an nvidia card). At the moment, Wine does not support the hardware cursor in WoW. It's being looked at. Cedega has support for hardware cursors.

flaZh: At the moment, the sound will be fairly awful in Wine no matter what you do. I recommend that you either disable it in the wine config (only disabling it in game WILL NOT work, and will only cause the game to stutter silently. Use cedega if you really want sound.

I'll be updating the howto in a few days with better information as to development progress, but for now all I can do is change it to refer to the correct patches.

EDIT:
Also, you won't want to renice wine to a lower priority (n<0) when running WoW. This will result in system instability, and you might get lockups resulting when WoW takes a long time to load something. Not only that, but nice -n 19 sets it to the LOWEST priority, in which case it will reduce your performance. Leave wine at its normal priority. If you want to increase your performance, turn off sound in your wine config with

Waywocket · Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:19 pm Post subject:

discomfitor · l33t Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None

By lower, I meant that it's a lower number. As for stability, try running WoW at -19 and see if you can still easily use other things while it's open. I have a habit of utilizing the full capability of my computer, meaning that I run lots of apps simultaneously in conjunction with WoW. Renicing it causes this to work very poorly.

EDIT: just noticed that I had the wrong patch directions. Now fixed.
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the_enigma · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:29 am Post subject:

Anyone tried ATIs new drivers (8.12.10) with VBO enabled? I'm at work at the moment, but I'll try tonight with cedega and wine. I wonder if it will fix my crash issues with wine as well. Not that it really matters, cedega seems much better, and the sound works

Waywocket · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:34 am Post subject:

Bobrepuss · n00b Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 33

It seems like lots of us, especially those running Ati cant change graphics settings without the game crashing and not remembering the changes we have made, so for a few things we need to use the config file. So if you are in the same boat as me and cant get resolution changes etc to work here are the commands for World Of WarCraftWTF/Config.wtf :

SET gxFixLag "0"
SET gxRefresh "60"
SET gxVSync "0"
SET mapShadows "0"
SET gxColorBits "24"
SET gxDepthBits "24"
SET gxResolution "1024x768"
SET ffx "0

There are lots of others but these are most of the ones which crash if i try to change them within options.. on MY setup

psolyca · n00b Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 6 Location: Tours, France

Ok, with the try 6 patch on wine 20050310 I got the same problem as reported here :

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2814#c69

But when I use fixwow and opengl32 fix, I got no problem.
I did not try the wine-cvs.

Kernel 2.6.11-r5
Nvidia 7174
Wine 20050310

EDIT: I got the same error with the CVS and the try6 patch :-(

legine · Guru Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 555 Location: Germany

discomfitor · l33t Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None

legine: That's because the "sound system" doesn't have a pid (unless you're running esd or arts). Alsa runs on its drivers, and that's it. Changing the priority of processes (including WoW's priority) should not make a huge difference. Making it a more negative priority might eliminate a few sound glitches here and there, but you won't fix it completely because wine still has sound issues. Process priority will not change that. Of course, if you make it a more positive priority, you will most likely amplify any existing issues and cause more problems to arise.

Leave wine at its normal nice value. If sound doesn't work and you aren't satisfied, use cedega or turn off the sound. Somehow I doubt that having sound enabled allows you to play the game that much differently anyway. I mean, I've never had my sound enabled after the first few weeks and I still find tons of good stuff and can PvP very effectively, not to mention that I have an epic mount. Clearly sound was not a factor there

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legine · Guru Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 555 Location: Germany

Hmm, this should be correct. But why do i have almost no clitches?
Sound is nice here. I do use alsa. But no sound system like arts or esound.
Okey. The way I remebered it I had tons of clitches when I used the winealsa.dll. switching to the wineoss.dll reduced them a bit.
I changed to managed by X mode this reduced a lot of clitches, but I had problems with the fullscreen mode, so i play in windowed mode.
the last tweak I have done is to nicen the hole process to a low priority. With that the clitches almost disapeared. (I hear somtimes something, but it can be ignored)
Maybe it is the complete combination I use!?

[EDIT]I never tried a higher Priority. It worked very well with a lower one ! [/EDIT]

Okey it is not perfect but very playable, with sound.
But to be sure I will check it out tonight again which modifications make sound behavior better.

Waywocket · Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:35 pm Post subject:

I think the priority issue with sound is a more complex one than you think - I suspect the problem is caused by a difference between the way Windows schedules multi-threaded applications and the way Linux (and therefore Wine) does. After a brief search, some links which may be of relevence (and may help anybody interested to look further):
http://winehq.org/?issue=269#CAP_SYS_NICE%20&%20Win32%20Thread%20Priorities
http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2005/01/0213.html
http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2005/01/0431.html

legine · Guru Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 555 Location: Germany

Interesting. Thanks

shi^Yo · n00b Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 9 Location: Cyprus

I 've been following the thread for two months and I would like to say a big thank you to all of you for keeping us enjoying WOW without dual booting.

Now to cut to the chase, what I ve been looking for is this:
1) Water Transparency on large water areas e.g. sea and big lakes (small lakes seem to be transparent). When I am above the water i cannot see what's below and when i am underwater i cannot see whats above (ok, i ve defined transparency for u

) I m using cedega 4.2.1 (d3d) with ati-drivers 8.10.19 and xorg-x11 6.8.2-r1 if that matters. Is the water related to the death effect that I have set off and pixel-shaders? I 've seen the line mentioning about water slowdowns on the howto but I don't think that concerns my case.

2) I cannot change the gamma settings from the game menu and the game is dark when entering houses or caves. I dont believe I ve experienced the same darkness on the game while trying it on windooze. Is there anything to do to enable that setting? or perhaps a manual entrie to be put on some of the configs to set a higher value.

Keep up the good work. As soon as wine gets fully operational and updated on portage i ll move to that.

legine · Guru Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 555 Location: Germany

1) dont know.
2) try to set a different Gammalvl on X.
Thats at least what I do. I cannot help you how you can do it bc I use the NVIDIA Tool. Maybe ATI has something similar

shi^Yo · n00b Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 9 Location: Cyprus

Well the problem with gamma is that the rest of my X is fine, there are some tools provided by ATI, haven't use them though. If I make a global change to gamma or brigthness WOW is pretty playable but the rest of my X enviroment is so brightly white (light gray is getting at an equal level with pure white)

anyone... thanx for the reply...

still though i would like to see some help for water transparency. Anyone?

guppy · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:23 am Post subject:

shi^Yo · n00b Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 9 Location: Cyprus

erm... again the problem is NOT with my general X settings... is just with the game's gamma.. whenever i move the bar in Video Options/ gamma, it makes an instant change on the screen and returns back to the previous brightness leaving the bar to its new value. Its like cedega cannot force ATI to leave its gamma settings, don't have access to it or sth. Anyway... anything on the water transparency? You mean to say that all of you using ATI and cedega 4.2.1 can view transparent water ?
This makes me an exception then i guess...

meinbobo · n00b Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 17

i cannot start wow

i am trying to run a copy of wow that was installed from windows before my windows hd died
i have tried wine 20050310, cvs wine, and cvs cedega
all with the same results no matter what command options i use
i get these warnings in the console window:

fixme:opengl:query_function_pbuffer gl_version is: "1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.74"
fixme:opengl:query_function_pbuffer glx_exts is: "GLX_EXT_visual_info GLX_EXT_visual_rating GLX_SGIX_fbconfig GLX_SGIX_pbuffer GLX_SGI_video_sync GLX_SGI_swap_control GLX_ARB_multisample GLX_NV_float_buffer GLX_ARB_get_proc_address "
fixme:opengl:query_function_pbuffer gl_version is: "1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.74"
fixme:opengl:query_function_pbuffer glx_exts is: "GLX_EXT_visual_info GLX_EXT_visual_rating GLX_SGIX_fbconfig GLX_SGIX_pbuffer GLX_SGI_video_sync GLX_SGI_swap_control GLX_ARB_multisample GLX_NV_float_buffer GLX_ARB_get_proc_address "
fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub
fixme:thread:GetThreadTimes Cannot get kerneltime or usertime of other threads
fixme:thread:GetThreadTimes Cannot get kerneltime or usertime of other threads
fixme:thread:GetThreadTimes Cannot get kerneltime or usertime of other threads
fixme:thread:GetThreadTimes Cannot get kerneltime or usertime of other threads

then the blizzard bug report comes up

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World of WarCraft: Assertions Enabled Build (build 4297)

Exe: G:\games\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe
Time: Apr 13, 2005 5:33:37.787 PM
User: bobo
Computer: roxie
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This application has encountered a critical error:

ERROR #0 (0x85100000)
Program: G:\games\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe
File: C:\build\buildWoW\Storm\Source\SFile.cpp
Line: 5513
Expr: block < archiveptr->header.blockcount

WoWBuild: 4297
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

a blizzard form tells me that error #0 is a driver or software or an update issue

i am running 1.3.0 and cannot find the update to 1.3.1
i would like to try running wow with the update applied but i cant find it

i have checked my firewall as the apropriate allowances in it for wow (somewhere firewall was suggested as a cause of error #0)
i am running the latest drivers from nvidia - 3d accel is on
opengl test fine with glxgears - i get 2400-ish fps

i will take any and all suggestion/info available

please help i am at my wits end - having spent far too many hour on this

[edit]
sorry forgot some needed ref info

SuSE 9.2
Kernel 2.6.8
Athlon 3000+
1Gig DDR
GeForce FX 5200
Driver 1.5.3-71.74
Wine 20050310

thanks in advance for the help

meinbobo