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Gherald Veteran
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1399 Location: CLUAConsole
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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new_to_non_X86 wrote: | passed a certain period of time some things came into public domain
mozart,certain books are in the public domain..
so mabe some old roms are too |
Are you not aware that under US law the copyright of anything newer than Disney's Mickey Mouse will never expire? |
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shivakjo n00b
Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Posts: 40 Location: Dresden/Germany
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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not everybody lives in the US
"wesnoth" of course,
and "crack-attack" is nice. |
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aidy l33t
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 915
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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yep, some people live in GOOD countries |
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Gherald Veteran
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1399 Location: CLUAConsole
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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What country has done more good in the world than the US? |
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Drooling Iguana Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 94 Location: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Gherald wrote: | What country has done more good in the world than the US? |
Quite a lot of them, as many countries have been around for a hell of a lot longer and thus had more chances to do good than the US has. Of course, they did a lot of bad, too, but you never asked about that, and the US has certainly done its fair share of bad things in its time. |
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Gherald Veteran
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1399 Location: CLUAConsole
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Drooling Iguana wrote: | Gherald wrote: | What country has done more good in the world than the US? |
Quite a lot of them, as many countries have been around for a hell of a lot longer and thus had more chances to do good than the US has. |
You need history lessons.
But if it helps focus your thoughts, try:
In any given 300 year period of time, what country has done more good in the world than the US? |
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-=GGW=- $ol!d $n4>|e Veteran
Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 1616 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 3:31 am Post subject: |
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right... the US.... wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole.. hell I wouldnt f!@#$ look at that.
Some free games I've tried that I fell in love with
glob 2
frozen bubble
tuxracer
super tux
vega strike
battle for wessnoth
gate88
GALAXY HACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
ledgends
Enemy Territory
Enemy Territory fortress
NET HACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ivan
Gccg - Mtg
kiki the nano bot.
And of course although I havn't been able to test out a lot of the games of this style the ones I thought were good are
UTOPIA!!!!!
Kingdom Of Loathing
ONLINE DND (much better if you know ppl, but can be just as good with stranges [mainly only once you get to know them]) |
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Suicidal l33t
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 959 Location: /dev/null
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 8:51 am Post subject: |
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John5788 wrote: | wishkah wrote: | If it wasn't technically illegal, I'd suggest grabbing ZSNES and a couple of SNES roms off of amule or bittorrent. Good ones are all Mario titles, both Secret of Mana games and of course Zelda (among so many others). But that's illegal, so don't |
if you make your own ROMs then its not |
Yeah like they are really flying off the shelves theese days. |
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wimbo Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 110 Location: Ninove - Belgium
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: |
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new_to_non_X86 wrote: | passed a certain period of time some things came into public domain
mozart,certain books are in the public domain..
so mabe some old roms are too |
hmm, that "certain time" is 70 years after the death of the last "author" (author meaning the person who has the rights over the game). SNES may be old, but certainly not THAT old.
wimbo |
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GNUtoo Veteran
Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 1919
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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lol
there is also a lot of mods for some games as unreal tournament etc...
(if you have the game)
mabe they could work with american army???
(i'm downloadmin american army now before i've got some md5 and archives proclems)
lol |
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Gherald Veteran
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1399 Location: CLUAConsole
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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omg ??? wtf lol |
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GNUtoo Veteran
Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 1919
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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lol at the 70 years
threr were no computer games at this time
i've 2 questions
-does ut mods works with the demo
-does they works with others games using unreal engine as american army for example |
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dismal n00b
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 16 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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1. Doubtful. These mods most likely reference textures and sounds that are only available in the full version.
2. Nope. Same deal as above. |
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wimbo Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 110 Location: Ninove - Belgium
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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new_to_non_X86 wrote: | lol at the 70 years
threr were no computer games at this time
i've 2 questions
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i know. it's the copyright law, based on theatre plays, music, books, etc. but it's the same for computer games.
and it's worldwide. (well, maybe not in china.)
greetz,
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aidy l33t
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 915
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Gherald, are you serious about the US having done good things? |
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legine Guru
Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 555 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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for the US topic. Every country has her bright and dark side. How did George Lukas said it in Episode 3? It always depends on point of view. since this is not the topic to dicuss here I would like to leave it by that.
About the copyrights. Yea there is a time which has to pass bevore it becomes Public domain, but I always thought that goes to music not to Software. Wow. learned something
For good free games.
I would definitly look at freeciv for stragist.
Contiuum is a good arcade play like lbreakout.
For the trading fan of Elite or X fans I would like to recommend Vegastrike. There is a Vegastrike based mod featuring the old Wing Commander Mercgame Privateer. This is a good try too.
Planeshift will be great when it starts working again ^^.
For the future I would hold a eye on. UFO-ai (techdemo is in Portage and this one is pure fun) and on Epiar which gains on development again _________________ quote from Spaceballs:
Dark Helmet:[...] we were told to comb the desert, so we're combing it! [puts down bullhorn] Find anything yet?!
Soldier: Nothing yet, sir. |
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aidy l33t
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 915
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Remember: the old music is allways public domain, because there weren't any things like copyright in those times, not because of a certain time period has expired. |
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aidy l33t
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Remember: the old music is allways public domain, because there weren't any things like copyright in those times, not because of a certain time period has expired. |
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legine Guru
Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 555 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Now what is old musik? When does it end. Wich song is the first ever protected by copyright? d is this song still protected?
I can't answer these Questions but I believe the old songs of Elvis are meanwhile Public domain. (I think I heared something like that. But on the other hand you hear a lot when the day is long ...)
Now to the software. The copyright protects the code as is. Yes?
I mean if you rewrite the game without useíng the original art and the original code you make a "new game". So that shopuld not be a problem. The Problem occurs when you violate Software patents (currently just in the US maybe we get it here in Europ too ) Because Patents not protecting what you have done it protects your Ideas.
Last point abandom ware.
This is software a company does not care about. They make no use of their reights on a game since it is not worth the work. The game is to old and not attractive enough to get some share out of it anymore. You could consider them as free to.
I admit this is a very grey right but I would say the market has its own rules how long a Copyright has effect.
(MS wont care for any MS 3.3 copies moving around or do they ^^) _________________ quote from Spaceballs:
Dark Helmet:[...] we were told to comb the desert, so we're combing it! [puts down bullhorn] Find anything yet?!
Soldier: Nothing yet, sir. |
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aidy l33t
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 915
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:57 am Post subject: |
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Ohno, I don't mean Elvis, of course there was copyright then, he was really commercial. I was rather looking at the classical music composers... |
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MdaG l33t
Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 945 Location: Stockholm, Sverige
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Reloaded |
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aidy l33t
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Am I wrong of are there only very few linux games on that site? |
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aidy l33t
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 915
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Is anybody playing glest seriously here? It's a bit immature but quite cool I think, although it should be more like AoM instead of Warcraft 3 (yuck!) |
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rpdillon n00b
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 50
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: Nexuiz - GPL FPS |
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Nexuiz just came out, which is a HEAVILY modified Quake1 engine based FPS that has been in development for years. Totally free, and includes a nice engine, music and a bunch of levels. A strictly multiplayer deathmatch game right now.
I d/l'ed last night and it honestly my jaw dropped. First off, turn off all the realtime lighting, it brought my computer down to 20 fps (AMD64 3000+, nVidia 5900SE 128MB, 1GB Corsair). Even without it, it is beautiful, and it plays well. IMHO, the highest quality free game ever released. Maybe not the *best*, but the quality is outstanding.
For other linux gaming news, I always visit linux-gamers.net. Check it out. =) |
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gaminggeek Apprentice
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 231 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:18 am Post subject: |
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it is indeed very nice
another vote for nexiuz here |
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