Stage 1/3 Installation Support - 2005.0 & GCC 3.4.3

rutski89 · Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject:

So... is a fix for this simply to emerge gcc-3.4.4 for the first time, and then do "emerge -e system && emerge -e world" and THEN AFTER all that you do emerge -P gcc? Will this automatcially link python and everything else against /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4 ? Does gcc-config have to be done before or after the world and system emerges? The lib in /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4 is libstdc++.so.6, is it OK that its not so.5? This will add another emerge -e system and emerge -e world to Bob P's guide

That means that if glibc with nptl is compiled 2x times when you run "emerge glibc" then glibc will now be compiled total of 8 times thoughout the guid :roll:

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for those who are looking for support, here's the bottom line: GCC 3.4.3 is currently stable enough for use with a Stage 1/3 Install, while GCC 3.4.4 is not. there are still a number of unresolved issues with GCC 3.4.4 that complicate its use in a Stage 1/3 Install.

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If you want to perform a reliable install, I recommend the Stage 1/3 Guide for GCC 3.4.3.

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If you're willing to live on the bleeding edge and to help to blaze the trail, check out the experimental Stage 1/3 Guide for GCC 3.4.4.

quanttrom · n00b Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Posts: 19

I'll tell u how the install goes using your new guide for GCC 3.4.4....I started out doing my own modifications to the guide but it seems like so far they are identical..

jmbsvicetto · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject:

Bob,

given the recent problems with Portage updates relating to GCC, I thiink you should post one of your "infamous warnings" ;-)

on the opening page about gcc. It would also be helpful if you posted the link to one of the threads relating to that. I'm surprised that this thread hasn't been flooded by this issue.
For those unaware, I'm refering to the dreadful libstdc++.so.5 or libstdc++.so.6 not found errors.
I think the following threads can be helpful on this issue:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-345446.html
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-345046-highlight-libstdc.html
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-336444-highlight-.html

Bob P · Advocate Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 3374 Location: USA

thanks for the suggestion, Jim. and thanks for the links! :wink:

i've modified the masking atoms in the Stage 1/3 Guide for 2005.0 and GCC 3.4.3 so that instead of emerging the latest version of GCC in the testing branch, portage will emerge the specific version of GCC that is referenced in the Guide. this means that if you follow the Stage 1/3 Guide for GCC 3.4.3 and 2005.0, you will only get GCC 3.4.3, and the Guide itself and the Support Thread will both remain relevant for GCC 3.4.3. from a practical standpoint, this eliminates the GCC 3.4.4 bugs that were happening when the Guide was configured to emerge the most recent version of GCC, without regard to version number.

the way that the Stage 1/3 Guide is written now, the user will only get the desired version of GCC that is specifically intended by that version of the Stage 1/3 Guide. i think that this will markedly simplify the problem -- now the Guide for 3.4.3 will have its own Installation Thread and its own Support Thread, and the Guide for 3.4.4 will have its own Installation Thread and its own Support Thread. the problems that are unique to each version of GCC will be confined to their own threads. that should simplify things ALOT.

ub3rg00b3r · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

Ok, lets see here, brand new computer. Pentium 4 3Ghz 3E, 512MB of RAM thoroughly tested(by myself). An ASUS P4P800-SE Motherboard, and a Seagate 120GB hd, which has been zero filled after the first time of the error and tested for bad blocks.

Now on to the error, I follow the guide by the book, only changing

tommoyer324

To get around this problem all I did was before I did emerge -P gcc was when I emerged the toolchain the first time to get 3.4.4 using 3.3.5 I added the package libstdc++-v3 to the list and then everything worked out.

shinewu · n00b Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 27

I have a question.
Can OP do a
"ls -l /etc/make.profile"
I remember to use gcc 3.4, it is recommended to link :
/etc/make.profile -> /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.2/gcc34
because of some bugs in sse related codes in 3.4 series.
Is it still so? Or we can just skip to 2005.1.
/etc/make.profile -> /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1

ub3rg00b3r · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

Still cant seem to fix it, not the hardware... FreeBSD works perfectly. I would like to get this working :\
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Sith_Happens · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject:

Bob P · Advocate Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 3374 Location: USA

Bob P · Advocate Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 3374 Location: USA

With the advent of GCC 3.4.4, alot of people are getting confused about where to post:

For GCC 3.4.4

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If you want GCC 3.4.4, then YOU ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE. :oops:

instead, you should use this version of the Stage 1/3 Guide for 2005.0 and GCC 3.4.4:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-345229.html

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If you run into problems and need support, then post to the GCC 3.4.4 Support Thread:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2472891.html#2472891

If you are using GCC 3.4.4, PLEASE DO NOT POST TO THIS THREAD!

For GCC 3.4.3

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If you want GCC 3.43, then you are in the right place. :wink:

use this version of the Stage 1/3 Guide for 2005.0 and GCC 3.4.3.
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-319349.html

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If you are using GCC 3.4.3 and you need support, then post to the GCC 3.4.3 Support Thread:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2240059.html

If you are using GCC 3.4.3, then POST SUPPORT REQUESTS TO THIS THREAD!

thanks.

Sith_Happens · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject:

Edited to hide Bob's shame.

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magnumPI · n00b Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 13

ok this is pretty much my first install of any kind of linux. I work as a computer science intern at my company. Since I'm pretty good at windows troubleshooting, they wanted me to created a dual bootable linux/windows xp system, so i started following the documentation on the gentoo website. I figured this would be a learning experience. Instead of using fdisk, i used partition magic to create a 100MB unallocated partition inside the 1024 cylinder boundary for the boot, and 12GB unallocated partition for swap and linux.
1. I booted the computer from the cdrom.
2. gentoo's livecd command line showed up (i burned the universal iso image disk). I followed instructions by checking the date, and changing over to the /mnt/gentoo directory.
3. I followed the instructions for loading the snapshots...a bunch of the loadable files were listed, then the error occurred. It said there was no more space on the disk.

since i'm not much of a linux/bash buff, I think i may need more info on how to install gentoo. Did i manage the partitions wrong? Did i not mount something? any kind of help will do. I just want to learn how to install and use linux.

Sith_Happens · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject:

ub3rg00b3r · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

maybe im not good at wording things... what I said, was that I was having all those problems with 3.4.3, I just made it clear that I had done that part right with the versioning, during the first emerge -e system and sometimes before I get random gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc errors which are fixable by an emerge --resume, not a bad checksum... and no pattern whatsoever... better? heh
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Sith_Happens · Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:55 am Post subject:

Naveg · n00b Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 73

I get this on boot up:

/sbin/rc: line 250: rc_splash: command not found
* Filesystem couldn't be fixed

ub3rg00b3r · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

Ok sith, im gonna do some diagnostics on it... im convinced its hardware... figures, all new parts. If diagnostics report clean, then I'll retry the install, and ill show you the error output.. though it is not much to see, on any given ebuild, it will get to ">>> Unpacking source..." and then gives me a "gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error" <--- which is the exact error, then the only part I cant remember word for word is the whole !!!!ERROR!!!! thing after that, from portage... which is moreless generic, but if I emerge that same package again, right after, it works.
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Bob P · Advocate Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 3374 Location: USA

that is really wierd. have you tried running memtest on the live CD? another thing to consider is configuration of your new hardware. Gentoo is very unforgiving of things like overclocking of not only the CPU, but also the FSB, etc. its possible that if you're using new hardware, you have something configured improperly (timing issues, etc.) and this is what's causing your errors. if that's the case, you'll see all sorts of segfaults when its time to comple. GCC is merciless about overclocking any of your components. don't do it.

ub3rg00b3r · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

Yea, ran memtest after the first problem, and I had checked and doublechecked the BIOS settings there as well :/ No overclocking.
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torchZ06 · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: very reproducable error.. heh

ub3rg00b3r · n00b Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

Heh, thanks for the tip... First, I replaced the CD-ROM drive... just in case(Murphys Law). I ran `SeaTools` on the hard drive, (SeaTools is made by my hard drive manufacturer; SeaGate) ran CheckIt! on the motherboard and CPU, numerous times. After all that, I booted the livecd, which I had verified the checksum on the file after I downloaded it, and then the cd I burnt; both turned out good. Then I ran Memtest86 through about 3 times, all passes. I rebooted, went through the setup to the damn letter, right now its doing my one-liner of a few of the steps in the install(second emerge of the toolchain, then the emerge -e system twice) if its going to mess up, it will probably be in one of the emerge -e system's. In the case of it b0rking, I will submit the error message, if not... ill give your tip a try, see how that goes. Either way, ill get back to you guys. Thanks for the help.
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