Do you have a 64bit cpu maybe you dont know it

kristian aka unsolo · n00b Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 4

Intel 8xx and 6xx 775 series have x86_64 aka 64bit or amd64 or em64t or i32e
All intel XEONS with 800MHZ FSB is also x86_64

To take advantage of this you should

Use the amd64 livecd's and amd64 guide when installing

example /etc/make.conf

adaptr · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject:

kristian aka unsolo · n00b Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 4

Ok i can agree with the fact that its not a 100% 64 bit as they support x86

However the x86_64 is adopted from amd64 processors so i not only guess when i say they can run without multilib with only lib(64) which is quite hard unless the entire execution process is in 64bit or emulates 64 bit. the latteral would be insanely slower than x86 which it is not.

And regarding which processors i am 99% shure its according to intels own pages.

projectle · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 90

All of Intel's 64-bit processors blow monkey turds.
Take a look at performance comparisons of the Intel 64-bit processors (or their dual core for that matter) vs the Athlon64 or the Opteron in the single or dual core varieties.
Intel had it for a long time, although like Microsoft, they took too much of the market, felt comfortable and in turn let their quality and products slip until someone else could come along and a** rape them from behind.

adaptr · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject:

That's... not how I would have put it ;-)

But it's out now, so let's run with it.
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kristian aka unsolo · n00b Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 4

It still pumps some more in x86_64 mode than in x86 mode
Some people might have a reason for haiving this
so why not just let them have these cpus and happy that they run gentoo ?
And please refer to linux not windows benchmarks on perfomance comparison also make shure its only on x86_64
not some ia32 running on x86_64

lets say HPL for instance
High performance linpack benchmark used for top500.org

projectle · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 90

I said nothing about Microsoft benchmarks. I merely said that Intel got too big for their own good.
If you are saying that Intel's D or EM64T line products are even in the same league as the AMD Products, then your logic and thought processes are 95% craptastic, 5% craptacular.

adaptr · Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:53 am Post subject:

Then I'm sure you wouldn't mind telling us what actual facts you base this entertaining yet vulgar assessment on, would you ?

Cite references and source material, please.
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markkuk · Guru Joined: 29 Nov 2002 Posts: 446

kristian aka unsolo · n00b Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 4

your ignorance was so great that i didnt even have to answer my self

augury · l33t Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 722 Location: philadelphia

lshw -C cpu
intel 640

bollucks · l33t Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 606

You need the "lm" flag which means long mode ie 64 bit.

julot · n00b Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 55 Location: Mexicus

The 6XX series of P4 and the newcomer celeron, 326 and so on, will support x86_64.

But you are wrong of using 3dnow, even sse2, sse1, because are 32 bits based instructions.

In this moment GCC are not optimised for the complete architecture and thus is not desirable to mix the 32 and 64 bits instructions, (let the longhorn programmers do that kind of rubbish, The AMD X_64 set already have sse2 and sse 64 bits counterparts so it is NOT needed to include: