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boroshan l33t
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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furor wrote: |
Anywho, I know this may seem a tad self-aggrandizing to ask for help to set up my desktop, but despite all my studying different configs, I'm at a loss to figure out the mechanics to get it all to work.
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well, if you want to start from scratch, I wrote a tutorial on that subject.
http://fvwm.lair.be/viewtopic.php?t=188
Don't worry if it seems like a lot to learn. It is, but it gets easier once you have a few basics sorted out.
Best of luck
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And furthermore, I really meant to PM that ... Talk about blowing your own trumpet _________________ Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton! |
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hollerith Apprentice
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 204
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject: Is this right |
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Ok they finally let me out so I can use the net again...
I was having a go with FvwmThumbnail and just need a sanity check (okay maybe sanity is too ambitious)...
I copy FvwmThumbnail perl to /usr/lib/fvwm/2.5.12/.
Make it executable, cut and paste your default config into .fvwmrc (doing my best to disable Taviso thumbnails).
That's it right? What else is there to do?
edit:
Computer says 'No'.
Can't load magick.so (Line 5) or find (Line 240) DynaLoad.pm (vt)
Okay so maybe I don't have the perl module but I've got Imagemagick (because taviso's stuff uses it albeit via a nasty shell spawn)
Any ideas? |
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boroshan l33t
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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That sounds like it should work. I created a $HOME/.fvw./mods directory and added it to ModulePath in my config, but otherwise that sounds good.
I think ImageMagick comes with the perl interface as part of the bundle - at least I don't remember installing it. What happens if you do a slocate magick.soi? I get
Code: | /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.2.2/modules-Q16/coders/magick.so |
And on that subject, what version of ImageMagick? I know it works under 6.2.2. I suppose I should test it under a couple of others as well. _________________ Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton! |
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bosozoku Advocate
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 2431 Location: Roazhon
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
i would like to know if some un official modules (like your, boroshan) will be implemented in the next Fvwm version ?
Is the developement slow or active ? _________________ Stationlinux.org - Wiki Fvwm FR - Config Fvwm |
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ThomasAdam Guru
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 448 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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bosozoku wrote: | Hello,
i would like to know if some un official modules (like your, boroshan) will be implemented in the next Fvwm version ?
Is the developement slow or active ? |
It's just slow, Lucky. From what I can gather, modules only get implemented into the core FVWM release based on popularity. Shrugs.
-- Thomas Adam. |
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bosozoku Advocate
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 2431 Location: Roazhon
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ThomasAdam Guru
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 448 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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bosozoku wrote: | Ok thank you for your answer (how do you reconized me ? ). |
I recognise your nickname via the changelogs from FvwmWiki.
-- Thomas Adam |
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FrictionlessEmu n00b
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:03 am Post subject: |
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I've been having some problems with miniicons... I have them set for different programs, and I have "DrawIcons always" set in FvwmIconMan. For some programs (Firefox and Gaim), the icons work perfectly... a button shows up in the FvwmIconMan for the program when I load it, and the button has the miniicon in it. But then for other programs (xterm and gvim), the button shows up in the FvwmIconMan, but the icons won't show up in the button... But then they do appear if I restart fvwm with that program running. All of the icons are in the same directory, and defined in the same way... Is there any way to get the miniicons for all programs to load when the program is opened? It would be a pain to have to hit 'restart fvwm' every time I wanted miniicons for all of my windows
My .fvwm2rc, if it helps...
Code: | SetEnv fvwm_home $[HOME]/.fvwm
SetEnv fvwm_images $[fvwm_home]/images
SetEnv fvwm_wallpaper $[fvwm_images]/wallpaper
SetEnv fvwm_icon $[fvwm_home]/icons
ImagePath $[fvwm_icon]:$[fvwm_icon];.png:+
DestroyFunc StartFunction
AddToFunc StartFunction
+ I Exec exec fvwm-root --retain-pixmap $[fvwm_wallpaper]/tux-silver.png
+ I Module FvwmIconMan
+ I Module FvwmAuto 200
EWMHBaseStruts 0 0 25 0
Style * SloppyFocus, MouseFocusClickRaises, NoIcon, DecorateTransient
Style "xterm" MiniIcon xterm_32.png
Style "firefox-bin" MiniIcon firefox_32.png
Style "firefox" MiniIcon firefox_32.png
Style "gaim" MiniIcon gaim_32.png
Style "gvim" MiniIcon vim_32.png
Colorset 1 fg #000000, bg #d0d0d0 hi #ffffff, sh #999999
Style "FvwmIconMan" NoTitle, Sticky, EWMHPlacementIgnoreWorkingArea, \
!Handles, WindowListSkip, CirculateSkip, StaysOnBottom, \
FixedPosition, !Iconifiable
*FvwmIconMan: DrawIcons always
*FvwmIconMan: ManagerGeometry 10x1
*FvwmIconman: ButtonGeometry 128x32
*FvwmIconMan: Colorset 1
*FvwmIconMan: Resolution global
*FvwmIconMan: PlainButton raisededge
*FvwmIconMan: SelectButton up
*FvwmIconMan: FocusButton raisededge
*FvwmIconMan: FocusAndSelectButton up
*FvwmIconMan: IconButton flat |
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theBlackDragon l33t
Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 768 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:16 am Post subject: |
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FrictionlessEmu wrote: | I've been having some problems with miniicons... I have them set for different programs, and I have "DrawIcons always" set in FvwmIconMan. For some programs (Firefox and Gaim), the icons work perfectly... a button shows up in the FvwmIconMan for the program when I load it, and the button has the miniicon in it. But then for other programs (xterm and gvim), the button shows up in the FvwmIconMan, but the icons won't show up in the button... But then they do appear if I restart fvwm with that program running. All of the icons are in the same directory, and defined in the same way... Is there any way to get the miniicons for all programs to load when the program is opened? It would be a pain to have to hit 'restart fvwm' every time I wanted miniicons for all of my windows
My .fvwm2rc, if it helps...
Code: | SetEnv fvwm_home $[HOME]/.fvwm
SetEnv fvwm_images $[fvwm_home]/images
SetEnv fvwm_wallpaper $[fvwm_images]/wallpaper
SetEnv fvwm_icon $[fvwm_home]/icons
ImagePath $[fvwm_icon]:$[fvwm_icon];.png:+
DestroyFunc StartFunction
AddToFunc StartFunction
+ I Exec exec fvwm-root --retain-pixmap $[fvwm_wallpaper]/tux-silver.png
+ I Module FvwmIconMan
+ I Module FvwmAuto 200
EWMHBaseStruts 0 0 25 0
Style * SloppyFocus, MouseFocusClickRaises, NoIcon, DecorateTransient
Style "xterm" MiniIcon xterm_32.png
Style "firefox-bin" MiniIcon firefox_32.png
Style "firefox" MiniIcon firefox_32.png
Style "gaim" MiniIcon gaim_32.png
Style "gvim" MiniIcon vim_32.png
Colorset 1 fg #000000, bg #d0d0d0 hi #ffffff, sh #999999
Style "FvwmIconMan" NoTitle, Sticky, EWMHPlacementIgnoreWorkingArea, \
!Handles, WindowListSkip, CirculateSkip, StaysOnBottom, \
FixedPosition, !Iconifiable
*FvwmIconMan: DrawIcons always
*FvwmIconMan: ManagerGeometry 10x1
*FvwmIconman: ButtonGeometry 128x32
*FvwmIconMan: Colorset 1
*FvwmIconMan: Resolution global
*FvwmIconMan: PlainButton raisededge
*FvwmIconMan: SelectButton up
*FvwmIconMan: FocusButton raisededge
*FvwmIconMan: FocusAndSelectButton up
*FvwmIconMan: IconButton flat |
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Add EWMHMiniIconOverride to your icon styles. Also the quotes round the program class aren't necessary though they shouldn't hurt either. _________________ Fvwm|Fvwm forum |
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hollerith Apprentice
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 204
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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boroshan wrote: | That sounds like it should work. I created a $HOME/.fvw./mods directory and added it to ModulePath in my config, but otherwise that sounds good. |
I assume this is unnecessary if I place the module in /usr/lib/fvwm/2.5.12 with the others and make it executable.
Initially I got
Code: | bash: don't be silly command not found |
Then later...
Code: | /usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.1.8/modules-Q16/coders/magick.so |
Less than ideal.
boroshan wrote: |
And on that subject, what version of ImageMagick? I know it works under 6.2.2. I suppose I should test it under a couple of others as well. |
I'll remedy this appalling circumstance directly and get back to you. |
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hollerith Apprentice
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 204
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:35 am Post subject: Perler |
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That appears to have done the trick...
Unfortunately, I didn't make much investigation of the detail of the errors under the older version other than that posted here. I suppose I could unmerge... |
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boroshan l33t
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Perler |
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hollerith wrote: | That appears to have done the trick...
Unfortunately, I didn't make much investigation of the detail of the errors under the older version other than that posted here. I suppose I could unmerge... |
That's cool. I've been meaning to change imageMagick versions and do some debugging anyway.
Glad its working for you _________________ Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton! |
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Thesee Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 138 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hello everybody,
I discovered taviso's fvwm config file a few days ago. After trying to understand it, i finally tuned it for myself. But i have 2 questions:
1. How can i force the mouse pointer to keep taviso's look instead of the normal black pointer?
2. Where can i download his basic icon theme? I tried the way given in the link provided in the fvwm config file, but the url, but it keeps on telling me:
Code: | greg@Phoebe Backgrounds $ isoinfo -i d_man.php -J -x '/rep621/qnxinstall_w-2.4-x86-qnx.qpk' | \
> tar -zvf - -x 'qnx/qnxinstall_w/core-2.4/x86/usr/share/icons/topics'
isoinfo: Success. Read error on old image
gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: qnx/qnxinstall_w/core-2.4/x86/usr/share/icons/topics: Not found in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
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I guess the URL is too old Do you know where i could find it?
Thanks in advance, and this window manager rules! _________________ How does a UNIX expert have sex?
Unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; unmount; sleep. |
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FrictionlessEmu n00b
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:20 am Post subject: |
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theBlackDragon wrote: | Add EWMHMiniIconOverride to your icon styles. Also the quotes round the program class aren't necessary though they shouldn't hurt either. |
Added that, but it doesn't seem to do anything about the icons not showing up on the FvwmiconMan until it restarts . Anything else I could try? Would there be a way to just restart the FvwmIconMan whenever a new window (preferrably only new windows not on the skip list) opens? |
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theBlackDragon l33t
Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 768 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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FrictionlessEmu wrote: | theBlackDragon wrote: | Add EWMHMiniIconOverride to your icon styles. Also the quotes round the program class aren't necessary though they shouldn't hurt either. |
Added that, but it doesn't seem to do anything about the icons not showing up on the FvwmiconMan until it restarts . Anything else I could try? Would there be a way to just restart the FvwmIconMan whenever a new window (preferrably only new windows not on the skip list) opens? |
Hmm, I just noticed you added $[fvwm_icon] twice to your imagepath, maybe that confuses Fvwm?
Maybe your IconMan starts too fast, try delayin startup with Schedule (when the above doesn't give any results, that is).
All in all it sounds a bit like: http://fvwm.lair.be/viewtopic.php?t=467, only that he has the problem with FvwmButtons. _________________ Fvwm|Fvwm forum |
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mascanho Veteran
Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 1241 Location: On my Bmx Bike on a Concrete Park Flatlanding ...
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Whats the fastest thumbnail generator around ??
I heard that there was one that was quit fast not taviso's one , another one, anyone knows anything about it ?? _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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theBlackDragon l33t
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mirko_3 l33t
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Boroshan, have you gotten round to doing that animation thing to FvwmRingMenu? I'm not pushing, take your time!
I might beat my Mac downstairs if I get that and FvwmThumbnail to work... Is it suppose to Iconify the window or only take the screenshot? 'cause the screenshots get taken and saved, but the window isn't iconified...
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I guess so, because I have:
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Key F9 A A ThisWindow SendToModule FvwmThumbnail Thumbnail $[w.id]
Key F10 A A Iconify
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And I only get the Thumbnail if I press F9 and then F10... even though I have:
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DestroyModuleConfig FvwmThumbnail: *
*FvwmThumbnail: Refresh 5
*FvwmThumbnail: Directory /home/mirko_3/tmp/icons
*FvwmThumbnail: Mode Auto
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Plus all that default class stuff you posted in your first post on the fvwm forums...
Once I get this to work, I'll try emulating exposè... _________________ Non fa male! Non fa male! |
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mascanho Veteran
Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 1241 Location: On my Bmx Bike on a Concrete Park Flatlanding ...
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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hum ... wow i havent seen those but it seems that it needs a lot of efforts to get it working am i wrong ??
i whant something simple that doesnt gives me much work to get it working.
but ill have a look at those ... tkx _________________ Flatland Life is a Choice !
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boroshan l33t
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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mirko_3 wrote: | Boroshan, have you gotten round to doing that animation thing to FvwmRingMenu? I'm not pushing, take your time!
I might beat my Mac downstairs if I get that and FvwmThumbnail to work... Is it suppose to Iconify the window or only take the screenshot? 'cause the screenshots get taken and saved, but the window isn't iconified...
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Just so folks know: I started a new job last week, and today I took my wife into hospital. So I may be a little longer than I planned in getting back to work on the modules. _________________ Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton! |
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boroshan l33t
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 730 Location: upside down
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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mascanho wrote: | hum ... wow i havent seen those but it seems that it needs a lot of efforts to get it working am i wrong ??
i whant something simple that doesnt gives me much work to get it working.
but ill have a look at those ... tkx |
I wrote them as proper modules so they'd work the same way as the rest of FVWM. It's no more complicated than FvwmPager really. Allthough it is picky about which version of ImageMagick it works with.
If you want a thumbnailer, there are a few thumbnail threads on the fvwm forum, including one written in C that looks like it knocks mine into a cocked hat, speed wise. I've not had a chance to play with it yet (see previous post) but you may find it easier to set up.
[edit] I see tBD already linked to two of them. _________________ Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton! |
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mirko_3 l33t
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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boroshan wrote: | [..]Allthough it is picky about which version of ImageMagick it works with.
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Right, but if I can get it to create a thumbnail with a manual command (which I bound to F9), it should mean that Imagemagick is not the problem right? Right now I can get it to create thumbnails with F9 and then, when I icon the window, the thumbnail is displayed; but it isn't creating the thumbnails like it should it auto mode.... _________________ Non fa male! Non fa male! |
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ThomasAdam Guru
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 448 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: Patch: Conditional stipples for sticky windows |
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I just thought some of you might like to know I've written a patch to turn on and off the stipple effect for sticky windows. If you're interested in it, you can follow the thread over at the fvwm-forums:
http://fvwm.lair.be/viewtopic.php?t=483
Thanks,
-- Thomas Adam. |
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Zyne Guru
Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 334
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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hmm I managed to get my fvwm up and running pretty smoothly, thanks to all the pages on the net, but I'm stuck with one problem here...
Is it possible to send an app from one virtual desktop to another?
I haven't found any pointers anywhere, but maybe I've overlooked something...
to see my current desktop, click here
TIA!!! |
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ThomasAdam Guru
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 448 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Zyne wrote: | hmm I managed to get my fvwm up and running pretty smoothly, thanks to all the pages on the net, but I'm stuck with one problem here...
Is it possible to send an app from one virtual desktop to another?
I haven't found any pointers anywhere, but maybe I've overlooked something...
to see my current desktop, click here |
Look at:
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MoveToPage
MoveToDesk
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in 'man fvwm'.
-- Thomas Adam |
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