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dpetka2001 l33t
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:41 am Post subject: Useful tools... |
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Hello there...I would like to know which tools I should use in order to keep my Gentoo box in order...for example what to use to keep my etc-update,what to use to delete any cruft that is not necessary,what to use to find for specific packages (and dependencies) ,how to make a proper emerge -uD world (what about toolchain? should it be updated seperately and before doing emerge world/system??) and any other stuff you would recommend useful to be on Gentoo box to keep it in order i might not be aware of...thanks in advance... |
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robbar Apprentice
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 156 Location: Saarbruecken, Germany
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dpetka2001 l33t
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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any other opinions/recommendations?? |
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Cintra Advocate
Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 2111 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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I would start here.. https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-67849-highlight-portlog.html
Personally I would be lost without genlop, portlog, eix & porthole, and have recently started using cfgupdate to simplify my etc-updates.
mvh _________________ "I am not bound to please thee with my answers" W.S. |
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dpetka2001 l33t
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
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and what about keeping Gentoo updated?? what should be the right process (toolchain,system,world)?? I've read somewhere about doing a doubble "emerge -e system" and a doubble "emerge -e world" in order to have the toolkits the right way builded and then the rest of your applications...shoud I do it this way?? is there another tool which would keep my Gentoo updated and the right way builded?? thanks in advance... |
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St. Joe Apprentice
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 242 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Most people get along fine using a procedure similar to what is listed below. Many will tell you that if you update packages in your toolchain (binutils, glibc, gcc) that you can do a 2x emerge -e system/world for more stability (which is true), but I've never found this to be necessary. I just update as I go along and let portage do its thing.
Code: | emerge sync
emerge -uDav world
emerge -uDv world
emerge -pv depclean
emerge -v depclean
revdep-rebuild -pv
revdep-rebuild -v
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dpetka2001 l33t
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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what should I use for watching extended messages when the Gentoo boots?? dmesg doesn't show the messages when Gentoo is booting... |
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groovin Guru
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 429 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:01 am Post subject: |
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i generally try to leave /etc alone. as many others do. i try to stay away of what changes follow an upgrade of an app and go from there. in my experience, the stuff i do run like samba or apache dont see too many config changes... i upgraded samba2.0.x to samba3 using the same configs.
search the forums, there are many threads on keeping a system updated. |
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dpetka2001 l33t
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:50 am Post subject: |
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what about the messages during boot I wrote about in my previous message?? I had seen something relevant in the Gentoo-Wiki sometime but am not able to track it down again...so any help would be appreciated...thanks in advance... |
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Cintra Advocate
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:20 am Post subject: |
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dpetka2001 wrote: | what should I use for watching extended messages when the Gentoo boots?? dmesg doesn't show the messages when Gentoo is booting... |
in my I have
Code: | alias vlm="mtail -f --lines=2000 /var/log/messages" |
so I tend to have vlm running in an xterm window on one of the desktops..
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dpetka2001 l33t
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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sorry to make a maybe stupid question but what is vlm?? I am noob yet and am not aware of many things...should I emerge something?? in packages-gentoo I found nothing about vlm...also are you aware of something relevant in the gentoo-wiki?? I could swear that I had once read something about what I'm searching but am not in the position to find it again...thanks in advance... |
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dpetka2001 l33t
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:03 am Post subject: |
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could you also give me some tips on uninstalling packages I don't need any more and each package's dependencies?? also could someone explain the differences between direct and reverse dependencies?? thanks in advance... |
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dpetka2001 l33t
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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any opinions/recommedations on how to uninstall a package and its dependencies the right way so that my system is clean after the uninstall?? thanks in advance... |
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