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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phlogiston wrote:
Ok thanks, whats the difference between mem and standby?


take a look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/power/states.txt ;-)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I use /usr/sbin/hibernate, created by
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emerge hibernate-script

I'm using that for suspend2 to disk. But still no success with standby/mem.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: suspend to ram Reply with quote

I do this as root :

echo mem > /sys/power/state

and acpi S3 ( suspend to ram ) works fine. But only when there's an X session with nvidia drivers loaded. Otherwise I don't get a display at all.

Tiger any eta on nitro3 ? Can't wait to get my hands on it. I hope you had the time to follow the "-mm slower" LKML thread. It would be nice to have that fixed.

BTW , I get no dyna-ticks config item at all, although I am i386 arch... not that it's importatnt to me, but I was just curious.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: suspend to ram Reply with quote

pharon wrote:
I do this as root :

echo ram > /sys/power/state

and acpi S3 ( suspend to ram ) works fine. But only when there's an X session with nvidia drivers loaded. Otherwise I don't get a display at all.

Tiger any eta on nitro3 ? Can't wait to get my hands on it. I hope you had the time to follow the "-mm slower" LKML thread. It would be nice to have that fixed.


This release is not affected, we only have __few__ patches from mm, all unrelated.

Phlogiston:

could you please try to pass combined_mode=libata param to kernel on boot, i checked and the patch for atapi always on IS
included in nitro2 already, but it ONLY works with libata, i thought it was obvious :S

also, from a kerneltrap post:
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The drive shows up as /dev/sr0 and I'm getting the same performance as before.

After adding the following lines to the top of my /etc/udev/24-cdrom.rules file:
KERNEL="sr0", SYMLINK="cdrom", GROUP="disk"
KERNEL="sr0", SYMLINK="dvd", GROUP="disk"

....everything appears to be working as it should =)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Caught red handed Reply with quote

You quoted my mesage before I corrected it. Now I am ashamed ! :(

Ok cool that we are not affected by the newer -mm slowness.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dyna-tick is in nitro-menu ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[*] Nitro-Sources framebuffer logo
[*] Support for the framebuffer splash
[*] Support for prefetching swapped memory
[*] 1Gb Low Memory Support
(10) USB HID Mouse Interrupt Polling Interval
<M> Reiser4 (EXPERIMENTAL)
[ ] Enable reiser4 debug mode
<M> SquashFS 2.2 - Squashed file system support
[ ] Additional options for memory-constrained systems
<M> Union fs support
<M> Layer 7 match support (EXPERIMENTAL)
[ ] Layer 7 debugging output
[*] Suspend2 --->


OK I hate to be the dumb one here.. where ? Maybe it's dependent on !foobar?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pharon wrote:
[*] Nitro-Sources framebuffer logo
[*] Support for the framebuffer splash
[*] Support for prefetching swapped memory
[*] 1Gb Low Memory Support
(10) USB HID Mouse Interrupt Polling Interval
<M> Reiser4 (EXPERIMENTAL)
[ ] Enable reiser4 debug mode
<M> SquashFS 2.2 - Squashed file system support
[ ] Additional options for memory-constrained systems
<M> Union fs support
<M> Layer 7 match support (EXPERIMENTAL)
[ ] Layer 7 debugging output
[*] Suspend2 --->


OK I hate to be the dumb one here.. where ? Maybe it's dependent on !foobar?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aha !SMP it is then. What about the people who need HT ( hyperthreading ? ) .. I don't have HT , or a laptop. So this doesn't concern me, but for argument's sake.. WHY?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aha !SMP it is then. What about the people who need HT ( hyperthreading ? ) .. I don't have HT , or a laptop. So this doesn't concern me, but for argument's sake.. WHY?


In this case, smp and ht is the same, they differ only in the lowlevel implementation
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: What I meant is Reply with quote

I know that to implement HT the devs used the already present SMP model, I meant why is dyna-ticks mutually exclusive with SMP/HT. there are laptops which have HT and could use the power saving offered by dyna-ticks. Maybe it is planned for later on.

I hope I am not engaging you in conversation away from nitro dev ( or heaven forbid -- studying ). I know people who could shoot me for that. :P
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it implies calculations for each cpu and it's load,
could interfere with stuff like load balancind and in general would most probably be very racy
and give you hardlocks when your system would go idle (or all the time, depending on how it would get implemented)

cheers

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger683 wrote:


AFAIK branding only gets bumped when an official release is being made, which doesn't apply to git updates.

I would appreciate if you simply test if it works, because i'm not so willing anymore to throw new git code to the users,
as now we aim to stabilize the release series.

PS: wait for nitro3, should be out within next hour or two ;)

EDIT: well, we have git-alsa that proved itself in latest suse kotd kernel, so i assume it should suit you just fine :P


Ok, thx for the info.

Not sure what you want me to test, but alsa git applied to vanilla 2.6.15 and seems fine, but still says its alsa 1.0.10rc3 and it hasn't solved my problems.

As far as nitro2 it appears to be 1.0.10rc3, so I'll wait for nitro3 ;)

Thx again, and I'll look forward to nitro3 :mrgreen:
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: suspend to ram Reply with quote

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Phlogiston:

could you please try to pass combined_mode=libata param to kernel on boot, i checked and the patch for atapi always on IS
included in nitro2 already, but it ONLY works with libata, i thought it was obvious :S

also, from a kerneltrap post:
Quote:

The drive shows up as /dev/sr0 and I'm getting the same performance as before.

After adding the following lines to the top of my /etc/udev/24-cdrom.rules file:
KERNEL="sr0", SYMLINK="cdrom", GROUP="disk"
KERNEL="sr0", SYMLINK="dvd", GROUP="disk"

....everything appears to be working as it should =)


I'm sorry but this does not help, no sr0 here. While booting I receive those messages:
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ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ide0: I/O resource 0x1F0-0x1F7 not free.
ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe
ide1: I/O resource 0x170-0x177 not free.
ide1: ports already in use, skipping probe


But the first two I also got with older kernels and it worked with sr0.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: What I meant is Reply with quote

pharon wrote:
I know that to implement HT the devs used the already present SMP model, I meant why is dyna-ticks mutually exclusive with SMP/HT. there are laptops which have HT and could use the power saving offered by dyna-ticks. Maybe it is planned for later on.

I hope I am not engaging you in conversation away from nitro dev ( or heaven forbid -- studying ). I know people who could shoot me for that. :P

The dynticks author is hard at work on it, but the SMP code is still not working well if you read lkml.
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