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tmf Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 76 Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: Feature request:search this thread |
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Hi,
recently I was browsing ubuntu forums, and noticed a small feature - search this thread. I think it would be very useful here.
What do you think?
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tmf Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 76 Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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One more thing - I'd encourage you to write why you think it would be useful or not. To be first - many times I've seen situation, where people post their problem in huge thread, and get response like "look on the third page of this thread, it's solved there". Ability to effectively search thread (and willing to do search) would cut that situation off.
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20476
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Without feedback, I'd ignore anyone voting no... they're probably just being contrary. I can't think of a functional reason to not implement some form of the feature. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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Shadow Skill Veteran
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 1023
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think it would be a great feature, I would love to use such a thing on some of the larger threads. _________________ Ware wa mutekinari.
Wa ga kage waza ni kanau mono nashi.
Wa ga ichigeki wa mutekinari.
"First there was nothing, so the lord gave us light. There was still nothing, but at least you could see it." |
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batistuta Veteran
Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Posts: 1384 Location: Aachen
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: which page within a post has my search keyword? |
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Every time I search for something like "vnc gcc4", then I get as an match the gcc threads (among others). The problem is that these threads have hundred of posts spreaded around several pages. How could I know in which page was my keyword found? It would take too much time to go through all 24 pages and every possible thread...
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Akhouk Guru
Joined: 23 May 2003 Posts: 476 Location: The Two Niles, Africa
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: |
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From "Quick search" you can choose to search "posts" rather than "topics". _________________ AMD 64 3500+, 2Gb RAM DDR400, 2 x 180Gb SATA, 256Mb Nvidia |
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sinetific n00b
Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:44 am Post subject: Post searching |
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I'm not sure if this has been recommended yet or not, but when searching clicking the link to a post always lands you on the first page of the thread instead of the page on which the term you searched for appears. Many posts in the forum are 30+ pages. This makes finding the information you're looking for quite cumbersome.
It would be nice if searching for the term took you to the exact post it was in instead of the first post in the thread. Is this a possibility or maybe I'm just missing some obvious functionality of the board that already does this. |
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kallamej Administrator
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 4980 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Yes, this has been mentioned loads of times, and the answer is, as always, to select Display results as: Posts from the search page. _________________ Please read our FAQ Forum, it answers many of your questions.
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silverpig Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Posts: 143 Location: Vancouver BC
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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I love these forums. Every single time I have a problem (whether it be with gentoo, or the forum search) the solution is always posted here _________________ 'Cause I can. |
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Da Fox Guru
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 341
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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although that works (but not great) I often find that I want to search for a certain term in the current thread, for example to see if something has been mentioned before, or if someone says 'yeah, that's been mentioned a couple of pages back'. In such a case it would be very usefull to be able to search within the current thread, instead of going through the entire forum.
Practical example:
When I had a firefox question a while back (I am having a problem with the adblock extension) I first searched the forums for my problem using rather specific terms, which didn't give any usefull results. I then had to go through every page of the 'Firefox 1.5 problems' thread to look for the word 'adblock' which took ages, whereas if I could just have searched the 'Firefox 1.5 problems' thread for the word 'adblock' I would have been done in seconds.
So please, put in a 'seach within this thread' option ^^ _________________ "Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire."
- Rei Ayanami
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Taladar Guru
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 458 Location: Bielefeld, Germany
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:15 am Post subject: Search Problems in long threads? |
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I am sure most of you had the problem before:
In the Gentoo Forums we have lots of long threads with 10+ pages.
The search feature just shows you which threads contain your search keywords.
Sometimes the threads are way too long to search by hand.
It should be easy for someone skilled PHP to extend the search feature to show the exact post in the search results.
Do you think Gentoo should do something like this?
Edit: Poll ate the fourth option (it was the first poll I created). Of course the other combination is also possible.
Last edited by Taladar on Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:05 am; edited 1 time in total |
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/dev/random l33t
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 704 Location: Austin, Texas, USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Other forums have a search in thread feature (Ubuntu forums come to mind). I think it's some sort of limitation of phpbb, but I could be completely wrong. If it is I think we'll have to live with it because changing from phpbb would be too much of a pain and could result in lost threads and other such nasty things. |
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Tasslehoff Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 100 Location: BC Canada
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:45 am Post subject: |
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a couple things you can do is use google to search the forum or have the results displayed as posts rather then subjects. |
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revertex l33t
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 806
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: |
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try google.
just use someting like this
Code: | vnc gcc4 site:forums.gentoo.org |
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omp Retired Dev
Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 1018 Location: Glendale, California
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Go to the Search page and set Display results as: to Posts instead of Topics. _________________ meow. |
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HydroSan l33t
Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 764 Location: The Kremlin (aka Canada)
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:32 am Post subject: |
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The search on these forums are is so unreliable. I just use Google and tell it to hit only forums.gentoo.org. _________________ I was a Gangster for Capitalism, by Major General Smedley Butler.
Server status: Currently down, being replaced with fresh install - 20% completed. |
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Taladar Guru
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 458 Location: Bielefeld, Germany
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:51 am Post subject: |
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I really can't see why I never noticed that. I mostly use the Quick Search but I should have looked on the Search page first of course.
Thanks omp. |
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Da Fox Guru
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 341
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: |
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anyone who says "Go to the Search page and set Display results as: to Posts instead of Topics." clearly hasn't read my previous post :/ _________________ "Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire."
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revertex l33t
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 806
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Da Fox wrote: | anyone who says "Go to the Search page and set Display results as: to Posts instead of Topics." clearly hasn't read my previous post :/ |
It's what happen when someone write more than ten words |
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pblinux n00b
Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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omp wrote: | Go to the Search page and set Display results as: to Posts instead of Topics. |
Here is a specific example for those who don't understand:
I bought an Inspiron 6000 laptop. DVD playback is choppy by default. I want to find the specific posts that address this problem. I can display as posts or as topics.
-"As topics" yields the gargantuan "Inspiron 6000" thread with hundreds of posts, mostly irrelevant to the problem.
-"As posts" yields hundreds of posts that are totally irrelevant to Inspiron 6000 hardware.
What I want to do is search only the "Inspiron 6000" thread for "choppy dvd". I want to get just the handful of posts relevant to my problem and my hardware.
Understand? |
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pblinux n00b
Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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kallamej wrote: | Yes, this has been mentioned loads of times, and the answer is, as always, to select Display results as: Posts from the search page. |
If that's the final answer, then I have a new request: When searching using "Display results as Posts", a feature that lets us search through the search results to find posts belonging to a specific thread.
In a nutshell, "Display results as Posts" is not a useful solution to this problem. |
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Archangel1 Veteran
Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 1212 Location: Work
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:07 am Post subject: |
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pblinux wrote: | kallamej wrote: | Yes, this has been mentioned loads of times, and the answer is, as always, to select Display results as: Posts from the search page. |
If that's the final answer, then I have a new request: When searching using "Display results as Posts", a feature that lets us search through the search results to find posts belonging to a specific thread.
In a nutshell, "Display results as Posts" is not a useful solution to this problem. |
I agree, the phpBB search is too inaccurate - you get hundreds of results that vaguely match your terms ranked before the ones that are accurate, because it seems to mostly be ranked on post date. If you have a specific problem that involves, say, Xgl, the solution (if there is one) is pretty much bound to be on one of two threads, but using search by posts always seems to pull in results from heaps of others. _________________ What are you, stupid? |
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kallamej Administrator
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 4980 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: |
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pblinux wrote: | kallamej wrote: | Yes, this has been mentioned loads of times, and the answer is, as always, to select Display results as: Posts from the search page. |
If that's the final answer, then I have a new request: When searching using "Display results as Posts", a feature that lets us search through the search results to find posts belonging to a specific thread.
In a nutshell, "Display results as Posts" is not a useful solution to this problem. |
Please note that this thread consists of some merged threads, but the one who merged them didn't leave a notice about it. The post you quoted was a reply to the post directly above it, which was in a new thread at the time. So no, that is not the final answer. There is a new search engine in the works, but there is still far from finished. _________________ Please read our FAQ Forum, it answers many of your questions.
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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I dont see why another search for threads would be bad. It would be especially good if there was a way to block out the "non searchable" items and words because you would only be searching a thread _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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tomk Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 7221 Location: Sat in front of my computer
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:53 am Post subject: |
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cokehabit wrote: | I dont see why another search for threads would be bad. It would be especially good if there was a way to block out the "non searchable" items and words because you would only be searching a thread |
Searching a specific topic would be easily doable and I'll include it with the new search engine. Bypassing the search stopwords will not be possible as they prevent the words from being indexed as the extra data needed to allow searching them makes a drastic hit on performance. We will however be having another look at the list before the new search engine is released. _________________ Search | Read | Answer | Report | Strip |
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