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Myrddin n00b
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 1:53 pm Post subject: Strange, Childish Dilemma |
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Hey,
I want to point out this isn't meant to put down Gentoo in anyway.
I've been using Linux for 3 or 4 years, mostly Mandrake and Red Hat.
About 3 or so months ago, I installed Gentoo on several of my systems after experimenting with it -- I was in love!
Now the problem is... Within a month I have to move back to dialup from broadband and maintaining and setting up Gentoo box's is gonna be bloody hard.
As much as I love Gentoo I find myself thinking it would be easier to pack it all in and use Red Hat or Mandrake or something.
You understand? I'm thinking that if I just buy the CD's of RH or MDK when they release a new edition and upgrade using that theres no downloading involved no problems ... 'cept I lose Gentoo..
As far as one can love an Operating System... I love using Gentoo. Theres no way I'm going back to Windows.
So the choices are... either struggle along with Gentoo on dialup.. gah I doubt I could cope.. I'm a very impatient person for downloads.. when things are compiling I know there'll be a good outcome so it's not as bad or I use Mandrake/Red Hat and don't upgrade anything manually and follow their upgrade path (e.g. 8.0 --> 9.0 -- 9.1 --> Whatever) by buying the release CD's.
Argh... You understand my rather childish problem?
Help?
I don't know what to do....
Is Gentoo managable on (slow) dialup?
I know this is a Gentoo site.. but is RH/MDK really so bad compared? (After using Gentoo and portage etc. for a while now my head tells me it is..)
Argh! _________________ Myrddin |
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AlterEgo Veteran
Joined: 25 Apr 2002 Posts: 1619
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Sure gentoo is manageable on dialup. It won't be bleeding edge though.
Make sure you're happy with your system, and only update security stuff and things you really, REALLY need. |
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idl Retired Dev
Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Posts: 1728 Location: Nottingham, UK
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I first used Gentoo on a dial-up. It didnt bother me at all.. i'd just fetch huge packages over night and be carefull when cleaning my distfiles.
Theres allways something you can do to pass the time while waiting for downloads _________________ a.k.a port001
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guero61 l33t
Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 811 Location: Behind you
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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I agree -- once your system is set up initially, the bandwidth requirements can be far less. Get yourself a backup binary (SuSE's good, I hear, if you're buying) just in case you can't cut it with dialup, but give it a shot with the big purple G first! |
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Ellidi Apprentice
Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 204 Location: iceland
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Quite a few people here on the forums are using dial-up.
They seem to be coping but of course there are harder times than others :) _________________ What if God smoked cannabis...
What do you mean with 'What if' ? |
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avenj Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Oct 2002 Posts: 495 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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I used Gentoo on dialup for a long time - in fact, the first five months of my Gentoo development career were spent on a 56k dialup. It's not so bad. |
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charlieg Advocate
Joined: 30 Jul 2002 Posts: 2149 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have physical access (ie Real Life - don't be shocked, it exists) to somewhere with more bandwidth and a CD burner?
You can download the current portage tree and the larger distfiles from one of the Gentoo mirrors, then copy into /usr/portage and /usr/portage/distfiles and you're away, only a few small packages to download to complete the set. _________________ Want Free games?
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charlieg Advocate
Joined: 30 Jul 2002 Posts: 2149 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Strange, Childish Dilemma |
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Myrddin wrote: | I know this is a Gentoo site.. but is RH/MDK really so bad compared? (After using Gentoo and portage etc. for a while now my head tells me it is..) |
Yessss the brain washing techniques are working... mwuhahaha must report back to Drobbins... mwuhaha mwuhahahahaha
MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MWUHAHAAAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAMWUHAHAHAHA
MWUAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHA
MWWUUHAAAAAHAHAHAHA
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carambola5 Apprentice
Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Posts: 214
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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charlieg wrote: | Do you have physical access (ie Real Life - don't be shocked, it exists) to somewhere with more bandwidth and a CD burner?
You can download the current portage tree and the larger distfiles from one of the Gentoo mirrors, then copy into /usr/portage and /usr/portage/distfiles and you're away, only a few small packages to download to complete the set. |
dang... beat me to it.
Using dialup would be significantly easier if you had occasional access to a high-speed connection and a CD-RW drive. You could have one RW disc devoted to transferring distfiles when you need them.
Of course, emerge sync'ing won't be all that bad so you'll know when you need to get that cd burned. |
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RdsArts Apprentice
Joined: 08 Oct 2002 Posts: 190 Location: MI, USA
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well, depending on what you want, maybe you should look at FreeBSD for the time between broadbands. Most of the benifits of Gentoo, and a full compiled distro every so often. It's the same price as Red Hat and Mandrake, more of what you do on FreeBSD is applicable on Gentoo, and vice versa. And 5.1 is planned for June, so hey. |
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Cossins Veteran
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 1136 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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I just wanted to say that feel very sorry for you, going from broadband to dial-up... Doesn't it say something about that somewhere in the Geneva-convention?
</OT>
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gsfgf Veteran
Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 1266
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Just dl over night anf only what you need. _________________ Aim:gsfgf0 |
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Seoushi Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 117 Location: Salt Lake City
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 6:47 am Post subject: |
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I recently went from 1.5mbit t1 to 26.4 dial-up. while using the net is slower, it doesn't really hurt my system in the least. I got everything I thought I needed for the summer (till I get back to college) and so far I have been happy. I have access to my friends cable modem if I really need it but I haven't yet. Although its only been about a week sibce I had to make the switch I think I will be fine for the summer. Only think I would dread is installing over dial-up without the dist files on a cd. _________________ -Seoushi |
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