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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I tried removing ati-drivers but that didn't work. So I tried removing xorg-server and that didn't work. What should I do?


VIDEO_CARDS="radeon -i810 -mach64 -mga -none -r128 -s3virge -savage -sis -tdfx -trident -via"

When you specify radeon it installs x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did this go ~arch? 7.0->7.1 caused massive breakage of binary video drivers. It should still be masked, as a *LOT* of users, probably the majority, use these drivers.

Now I have to manually mask it and re-downgrade...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xithix wrote:
Why did this go ~arch? 7.0->7.1 caused massive breakage of binary video drivers. It should still be masked, as a *LOT* of users, probably the majority, use these drivers.

Now I have to manually mask it and re-downgrade...


Mmmm, I think most users running ~arch will check before they upgrade... I just noticed it was blocking tonight, so I masked all of the X packages being updated, untill ATI (for me) get new drivers out for the new ABI...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slycordinator wrote:
Hydraulix wrote:
I tried removing ati-drivers but that didn't work. So I tried removing xorg-server and that didn't work. What should I do?


VIDEO_CARDS="radeon -i810 -mach64 -mga -none -r128 -s3virge -savage -sis -tdfx -trident -via"

When you specify radeon it installs x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati.



Ah of course! I forget I had that in there. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sedorox wrote:
Mmmm, I think most users running ~arch will check before they upgrade... I just noticed it was blocking tonight, so I masked all of the X packages being updated, untill ATI (for me) get new drivers out for the new ABI...
You don't actually need to mask everything, only the things that break: xorg-server and any drivers you use. My package.mask looks like this:
Code:
>x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.2-r4
=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-1.1.2-r1
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.1.0
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.1.1
=x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv-1.1.2
I have downgraded those packages, upgraded everything else and X.org works just fine again :-)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hydraulix wrote:
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http://metawire.org/~hydraulix/


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The requested URL /~hydraulix/ was not found on this server.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have downgrade xorg-server back to version 1.0.2-r4, but I am having trouble with the fonts showing up correctly. The fonts are no showing up at all in some of menus and on the desktop they are all black, they use to be white. I have a nvidia video card.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xithix wrote:
Why did this go ~arch? 7.0->7.1 caused massive breakage of binary video drivers. It should still be masked, as a *LOT* of users, probably the majority, use these drivers.


I'll second that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xithix wrote:
Why did this go ~arch? 7.0->7.1 caused massive breakage of binary video drivers. It should still be masked, as a *LOT* of users, probably the majority, use these drivers.

Now I have to manually mask it and re-downgrade...

I agree with you but maybe this is for the best as now if every distro moves to 7.1, nvidia and ati will have to make a new release asap with proper support.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

If Nvidia KDE users want to see their fonts with xorg 7.1, click start->control center, Appearance & Themes (top One), fonts (With the "Tt" icon), check "Use Anti-Aliasing", click Configure, and enable Sub-Pixel Hinting. Apply and restart xorg.

Kablam! Fonts in KDE now render.

Firefox fonts are a bit borked though, still figuring it out.

Thank you for your time,
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the above :) The firefox problem I seem to have got around at least for the moment by using Bitstream Vera Sans as the default font and then in advanced, proportional is set to serif, the rest are set to their bitstream vera equivalents.
That seems to have sorted most of the firefox problems out but the size still doesn't show in the selection drop-down menu. That's about the only fault I can find atm but i've only been booted up for a couple of mins.



Edit: running utf-8 and western btw.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly have to say that the problems I am having with xorg 7.1 and my nvidia drivers are really cool. When I open firefox, half of the fonts don't render (the screen is just blank). 90% of the time, when I move the cursor over that area of the screen, the text suddenly appears. It's like a game. ("and what's behind caption number one?") Sometimes if I scroll the screen, all of the "hidden" text appears. Same thing with some of the fonts on my desktop - just move the cursor over and they appear. This is in fluxbox. It's really cool.

There are a few problems: I can't get the fonts in conky to appear, even with moving the cursor over them, and the menus in BibblePro don't show up, and also the menus in programs under wine. But all-in-all a fair trade-off, I feel.

I usually use XGL/compiz, which has no problems with the current Xorg 7.1 and ~nvidia drivers, for some reason, don't know why. (I didn't even know there was a problem until I wanted to do something in fluxbox, then suddenly my font's weren't there - then I discovered this thread.)

Oh crap, half of my text dissapeared while writing this... and the cursor trick didn't work... luckily 'preview' button brings it back... Maybe not quite so cool after all... :roll:
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phlogiston wrote:
Hydraulix wrote:
It is the fate of operating systems to become free.
- Neal Stephenson

http://metawire.org/~hydraulix/


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The requested URL /~hydraulix/ was not found on this server.


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:lol:


Yeah metawire is always down for some reason. They are in the middle of moving their servers to another datacenter. They said they would have everything up and running last month. But as you can see that's not going to happen.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paladin-zero wrote:
Xithix wrote:
Why did this go ~arch? 7.0->7.1 caused massive breakage of binary video drivers. It should still be masked, as a *LOT* of users, probably the majority, use these drivers.


I'll second that.


I'll third it.

This has wasted my entire afternoon...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do I downgrade back to 7.0 where I was happily humming along in gentooland.

7.1 sucks!!

Spent the last two days trying to get my box back into shape. I got better things to do! I'm now back where I was just after emerge -uaDN world updated me to 7.1 and screwed everything up. 1.0.99 is blocking nvidia and hence any future meaningful updates. Fonts are missing from anjuta. Half to all my source code is blank!

I want to mask off 7.1 and downgrade back to 7.0 without messing everything up. How do I do that please?? Really appreciate some help.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put this in your package.mask:

Quote:

>x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.2-r4
=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-1.1.2-r1
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.1.0
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.1.1
=x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv-1.1.2
=x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.6.0


and do an emerge -uD world
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beatryder wrote:
Put this in your package.mask:

Quote:

>x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.2-r4
=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-1.1.2-r1
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.1.0
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.1.1
=x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv-1.1.2
=x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.6.0


and do an emerge -uD world



Not working. This is output:

Code:
emerge -uavD world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies -
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.0 (masked by: package.mask)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
(dependency required by "x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-1.2.1" [ebuild])



!!! Problem resolving dependencies for x11-base/xorg-x11
!!! Depgraph creation failed.


I left off =x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.6.0 btw, since I don't "use" ati drivers in my USE flags.

Do I need to add more stuff to package.mask??
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is this all about from my package.mask file:

Code:
# Joshua Baergen <joshuabaergen@gentoo.org> (03 Jun 2006)
# X.Org development snapshots
>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.99


Why is it there?? Why is this masked?? It appears to be part of the update as I didn't put it in my package.mask.

Is it the culprit??


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm I was blissfully unaware of this until I tried my weekly sync today

50 odd packages blocked by xorg-server

the kicker - I'm running
Code:
media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.8756
x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.0
x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1
2.6.15-gentoo-r1

edit: took drphibes's advice p3 this thread and added virtual/xft to package.keywords; now I just have xorg-server-1.0.99 blocking the nvidia update - so as asked also p3, why is 1.0.99 blocking when I have 1.1.0?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

Rather than revert the ~arch to 7.0, I would recommend that all users with broken binary drivers ping their system integrators, graphics vendor, or chipset manufacturer directly and request support. It will only work if we all ask.

Untill then, we all need to "deal". Do what you have to. Use 7.0, use vesa, whatever it takes. I personally agree with Chris H on this one. Xorg needs to break ABI compatability more often, we need to complain louder, and nvidia/ati needs to release specs and code under an unencumbered license.

Thank you for your time,
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

grofaz wrote:
Do I need to add more stuff to package.mask??

In your case you need to also mask >=xf86-video-vesa-1.2.0

russofris wrote:
Rather than revert the ~arch to 7.0, I would recommend that all users with broken binary drivers ping their system integrators, graphics vendor, or chipset manufacturer directly and request support. It will only work if we all ask.

Nvidia has already committed to adding support in their next release.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beatryder wrote:
Put this in your package.mask:

Quote:

>x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.2-r4
=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-1.1.2-r1
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.1.0
=x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.1.1
=x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv-1.1.2
=x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.6.0


and do an emerge -uD world


This is not doing anything. I keep getting blocked by:

[blocks B ] >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762)

Even though I put your recommended masks in my package.mask file. I'm stuck!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Headrush wrote:
grofaz wrote:
Do I need to add more stuff to package.mask??

In your case you need to also mask >=xf86-video-vesa-1.2.0

russofris wrote:
Rather than revert the ~arch to 7.0, I would recommend that all users with broken binary drivers ping their system integrators, graphics vendor, or chipset manufacturer directly and request support. It will only work if we all ask.

Nvidia has already committed to adding support in their next release.


OK...now this one:

x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.3.0

How do you figure out which version is needed??

For VIDEO_DEVICE I use nvidia, vesa, and fb.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What else is broken here besides nvidia? If I unmerge nvidia and use nv will that fix stuff until they come out with a compatible driver? Or is there more to it than just the nvidia problem. I'm seeing evaporating font when I open anjuta and my clock has gone haywire. It's way off! I've waisted two whole days on this mess. Not a happy camper...

Another option is umerge xorg-7.1 and go back to perfectly fine xorg-6.8.2-r7 but how do I correctly clean my system and prevent unwanted updating to modular x??
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm having the weird occasional missing font problem (w/digg especially and with courier too). That, and the arrow keys don't work unless I use the numeric keypad. Oh, and the buttons were remapped in ut2004

Here's what I put for my /etc/portage/package.mask:
Code:
<=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9.0-r1
<=virtual/xft-6.8
=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1



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