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sepp
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 Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject: how do I install a low maintenance system? |
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recently I just noted that I actually sometimes do spend more time upgrading / keeping my gentoo system up to date than actually working with it. THIS IS WRONG. I computer should be there to work with it NOT on it.
So basically what I need is the freedom to customize my stuff but I really only need a stable desktop enviroment (I use gnome) which I update from time to time (maybe every 6 months). there's no use for me in upgrading the kernel & gcc every couple weeks. I really don't have any use for that.
So after I've (hopefully) made my point: how can I setup gentoo so I really don't have to deal with all those upgrading / keep up to date issues? (please don't tell me I should just not do emerge -u world --deep). |
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cyrillic
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: how do I install a low maintenance system? |
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| sepp wrote: | | (please don't tell me I should just not do emerge -u world --deep). |
OK then, I won't tell you. 
... but seriously, my strategy for a low maintenance Gentoo would look like this :
Do a clean installation
Enjoy Gentoo for ~6 months (don't emerge --sync)
Erase harddrive, and start over
ps. I don't actually do this on my machines, because I like to always have bleeding edge software. |
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nixnut
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Moved from Installing Gentoo to Other Things Gentoo.
Not about getting gentoo installed
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phsdv
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: how do I install a low maintenance system? |
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| cyrillic wrote: | Do a clean installation
Enjoy Gentoo for ~6 months (don't emerge --sync)
Erase harddrive, and start over |
That is almost what I am doing too. The difference is that I do an "emerge --sync" whenever I get an email from GLSA (Gentoo Linux Security Advisory) about a package that I think I have installed. And the I only update that package with | Code: | | emerge -av --oneshot =base/package |
So I skip your step 3  |
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nephros
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You can also try out Debian stable. The distro that doesn't move.
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Scratalacha
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: how do I install a low maintenance system? |
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| phsdv wrote: | | cyrillic wrote: | Do a clean installation
Enjoy Gentoo for ~6 months (don't emerge --sync)
Erase harddrive, and start over |
That is almost what I am doing too. The difference is that I do an "emerge --sync" whenever I get an email from GLSA (Gentoo Linux Security Advisory) about a package that I think I have installed. And the I only update that package with | Code: | | emerge -av --oneshot =base/package |
So I skip your step 3 |
Maybe someone should have told you about glsa-check...
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cyrillic
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: how do I install a low maintenance system? |
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| phsdv wrote: | | That is almost what I am doing too. The difference is that I do an "emerge --sync" whenever I get an email from GLSA (Gentoo Linux Security Advisory) about a package that I think I have installed. |
I wouldn't worry about security updates at all. If the machine gets hacked, then just do step 3 sooner.
EDIT : Wouldn't you just love to have me as a server administrator ?
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phsdv
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| Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: how do I install a low maintenance system? |
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| Scratalacha wrote: | | Maybe someone should have told you about glsa-check... |
Yep, that would have been a good idea. | Code: | $ glsa-check -t new
This system is affected by the following GLSAs:
200602-04
200602-08
200604-09
200606-23
200603-07
200603-19
200603-20
200605-13
200609-04
200609-05
200609-07 |
But I still need to emerge --sync to get the glsa list updated right? |
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Scratalacha
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Correct. How else would you get the updates to the builds? Once you sync, you can then run:
and it will automatically apply all of the updates for you.
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