Zetagrid GLUE-team --> We are in the TOP 2 (7 July 2003)

Gushy · Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 9:15 am Post subject:

yeah a gkrellm plugin would be cool!

Just added my machines to the fold, my two gentoo boxes; a 1.3ghz duron - on 24/7 and an athlon 2200xp (1.8ghz I think) and my missus' windows box, a duron 850. should a help a little.
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Useful Idiot · Guru Joined: 30 Aug 2002 Posts: 329 Location: Finland

I'm actually trying to make a gkrellm plugin. The problem is that I can't get right results when calculating progress. It's always few percents of. If you have any ideas on how to do this feel free to tell me(It currently reads values from zeta_zeros.tmp). The plugin is still far from complete and currently I don't have lot of free time, so don't espect it to be ready soon.

Also, if you have suggestions for features and layout, please tell me and I'll see what I can do.
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JayBee · Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 9:32 pm Post subject:

Stats Update:
(for those that don't know, the stats are available at http://www.zetagrid.net/servlet/service/producers?user=Michael+Imhof&email=tantive%40gentoo.org)
Overall: 3rd (only 6.5 billion zeros to 2nd), running 433 Computers!!!
24 hrs: 1st (Still!) by 120 million zeros!! (and 130 million over 2nd place!)
7 days 1st!! by 400 million zeros (and 440 million over 2nd place!)

So in 4 months we should be #2 as long as we keep this up! Lets keep cranking the zeros!

Also, fo those new to the cause, see the FAQ at http://cvs.gentoo.org/~tantive/.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated!

Also, I note that there are a few people (approx 80 computers by the looks) still contributing to GLUE, but not to Michael Imhof. If you know one of them (or are one of them) please consider changing your details to Michael Imhof, as we want the biggest share of the prize money for Gentoo, and groups count for squat

lurid · Guru Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Posts: 595 Location: Florida

Uhm, just a quick observation. While I think this is a noble project, and setting it up to help support Gentoo is a grand idea.. its all assuming that the Riemann Hypothesis is incorrect. So far there are how many BILLION zeros tested? It seems to be holding up fairly well. Of course, it could be wrong and I'm still running it and I'd really like to see Gentoo get some funding.. but, you know, getting worked up about being 1st place doesn't mean much if the hypothesis isn't wrong. Even if we smoke the competition, if its not proven wrong, Gentoo doesn't get jack. :(

Its nice to see us with such massive numbers though.

gdoubleu · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 80

taken from http://www.zetagrid.net/zeta/prizes.html:

lurid · Guru Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Posts: 595 Location: Florida

Oh. Well damn, I stand corrected. I guess I should read more carefully next time. :oops:

shadow255 · Guru Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 412

Bluesman originated a plugin for displaying progress of the zetagrid client for GKrellm 1.2 (and posted earlier in this subject on it). Unfortunately, Bluesman's website has disappeared, but my wife and I made some adaptations to his original work to make it work under GKrellm 2. You can find it here along with the tarball we originally downloaded from the now-defunct site. I can't guarantee that it will work for you, nor can I promise that we'll fix any bugs you may find. Please direct feedback to the email address on our page.

Hope this is useful to someone, and long live GLUE!
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Useful Idiot · Guru Joined: 30 Aug 2002 Posts: 329 Location: Finland

Thanks! Works just fine.

Great, now I don't have any pressures on finishing my plugin.

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You have just gained the cycles of my dual-Athlon 1800+ box (3014.65 and 3055.61 bogoMIPS).

I am pausing my folding@home until this is over. After all, mathematics is cooler than boring biophysics ;) Good Luck, all!
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Vagabond · Apprentice Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 192

Wow, the plug in the GWN has boosted us a lot, we now have 486 members of the collective of which 235 have contributed workunits in the last week. In the past 7 days we have processed over 1 billion zeros, the most I've ever seen us do in a week and at the present rate we will get to second in approx 2 months. I know that seems like a while but we have to basically do the same amount of work we have already done again to catch up on the leaders.

We've also found the 5th, 14th, 82nd and the 91st closest zeros

Keep those zeros coming.

Vag

idl · Posted: Sat May 10, 2003 6:02 pm Post subject:

BTW we are now 1st.. and i'm just setting up my 3 boxes to crunch.... they will be as follows:

1) 233mhz server, not much but better than nothing
2) 450mhz parents PC
3) 1.53mhz athlon xp 1800+
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shadow255 · Guru Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 412

I freely admit that this is a bump and an attempt to keep this subject in my egosearch.

That being said, the mention in GWN seems to have propelled the collective to new heights in productivity! Keep up the good work!
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markfl · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:46 pm Post subject:

This sounds really cool - in a couple of days you can have the spare cycles on my brand spanking new Pentium 4 3.06 Ghz 800Mhz FSB 1Gb Corsair DDR400 RAM system crunching numbers for you.

If we win some money for gentoo i wonder what it will be spent on
hardware for developers mayb...
what would benifit the gentoo users most? (seeing as we as a collective earned the money it should go to benifit us)

i havent read up on what its trying to prove yet or exactly what its doing but money for gentoo sounds cool
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paranode · l33t Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 679 Location: Texas

Cool, I added one of my spare machines to the effort.
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TheCoop · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:09 am Post subject:

at this rate GLUE will be 1st in about 300 days
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dolbz · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:50 am Post subject:

just spotted this thread. You're soon to gain a XP2000 with 512Mb ram. And like MouseJockey said. What will this money be spent on? how will it benefit gentoo users? the people who (hopefully) win it!

Dolbz

fbreuer · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 8:00 pm Post subject:

When I first came across this thread I was confused: How should it be possible to prove the Riemann Hypothesis by computation? You would have to show that all roots of the Zeta function lie on the critical line, but there are infinitely many of them! So: you cannot do this computationally. You could of course find a disproof of the Hypothesis by computing a root off the critical line, but that would not earn the $1m prize.

Further investigation revealed indeed: The ZetaGrid project is aimed at computing many zeros of the Zeta function so that a statistical analysis of the gathered data might yield some ideas ("unproven heuristics" as it says on the site) about the statistical distribution of said zeros. This in turn might indicate a direction in which a proof might be found.

So: If the statistical data does indeed provide some intuition about how to prove the Hypothesis this whole project might have some scientific merit. But only if Sebastian Wedeniwski manages to construct a proof from it will there be any prize-money.

I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm, but all in all I think this project is a waste of time and computing resources as it is highly unlikely to yield either mathematical results or money.

On the other hand: how "likely" is it to find aliens?

PS: The comparison of ZetaGrid with the computational proof of the Four Color Problem mentioned on the site is ill fitting. This proof by Appel & Haken (1977) involved the (non-computational) reduction of the infinitely many cases to 1482 distinct cases. These finitely many cases were then proved computationally. ZetaGrid does not reduce the Riemann Hypothesis to a finite problem.

gdoubleu · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 80

my Duron 750 and P3 600 are crunching their little hearts out.

I too am Michael Imhof.

zendron · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Jul 2002 Posts: 82

we just get the 2 rank !!!

shadow255 · Guru Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 412

I don't know if anyone else has been watching the stats on the Zetagrid site lately, but I thought I might mention that production from Michael Imhof has been declining to the point that another top producer is ahead for the past 24 hours - and appears to be steadily performing. I am not casting stones here - it's summer, we've had a bit of a heatwave and I have put the Zetagrid client on hold during the daylight hours to prevent overheating. Just hoping that we can regain some interest in the project and get some more steady-producing machines!

For anyone that doesn't know how to view the stats for Michael Imhof, click this link: Top Producer Michael Imhof

I also noticed that there was discussion in the Zetagrid forums that indicates the project originator expects that computation will stop near the end of 2004 - whenever the total output of computed zeros reaches 1 trillion. According to the site, there have been nearly 500 billion (half of goal) computed. So far, it seems that the hypothesis has held up - that is another condition for stopping the computation. In any case, there is still time for our collective to capture the top spot on the list of producers, so let's see what we can do!
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AlterEgo · Veteran Joined: 25 Apr 2002 Posts: 1619

I have not been able to fetch/upload any work in about a week now.
Am I the only one have problems?

[edit] Guess not: http://www.zetagrid.net/forum/thread.jsp?forum=5&thread=971&message=3646#3646

Bluesman · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 3:57 am Post subject:

Btw, anyone figured out why ps aux | grep java shows 0.0% CPU usage? sar (part of sysstat package) also shows 0 usage, while system CPU usage is pretty much 100%.
It used to work pretty good some time ago when I was running zetagrid but not at the moment.

I'm currently using 2.6.0-test6-mm4 kernel...
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