Gentoo on PS3

Specialized · Apprentice Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 264

According to this Site, the PS3 will support Linux officially. Are there Plans for a PS3-Kernel like for the xbox or any other support for Gentoo on PS3?

It would be really nice, a 3,2 Ghz Cell-Processor, Nvidia GPU, Blue-ray-Diskdrive....

Could be a good Replacement for a Desktop PC.

renrutal · 2.6.16

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zisper · n00b Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 21

Nope, yellow dog. Still who'd have thought it at the time the above post was made? But linux on PS3 though - I'm excited about that thing again!

corsair · Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: YDL ftw!

zisper · n00b Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 21

Heh, I'm in Aus so in the same boat about the March delay..... And the price, a fairly expensive "toy" at $1,000AU. (My tv isn't HD so I can't even justify it on the Blu-Ray player as I did with the DVD & PS2.

TheDevilsJester · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 98

Since the PS3 allows for installation and dual/multibooting of OSes, I would love to see a Gentoo release on it.

Of course, until then, Yellow Dog will have to do (once its released later this month), but it will never feel like home without Gentoo.

linuxtuxhellsinki · l33t Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 700 Location: Hellsinki

I'm also really looking forward for this , I've readed that it will cost 550¤ & 650¤ here in Finland

Maybe I'll dump my 1.6Ghz P4 desktop when I'm getting it in my hands (met Linux natuurlijk)

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meetra · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject:

http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index.html

whitesanjuro · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 11

i am working on getting gentoo going on the ps3 now that it is finally out - see a gallery of my progress here. so far what i have done is:

-download firmware update
-partition drive in system settings menu
-download sony bootloader
-download sony cell addon cd
-gentoo ppc64 live cd
-download gentoo stage 3
-download gentoo portage tree
-install sony bootloader by loading it and kboot onto usb mass storage and running install-other-os from settings menu
-partition / setup swap (need to mkswap in gentoo chroot)
-mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/tmp
-mount /mnt/tmp/img.squashfs /mnt/livecd
-mount -t tmpfs none rwlivecd
-cp -a /mnt/livecd/etc /mnt/livecd/var /mnt/livecd/dev /rwlivced
-make /home /root /mnt /tmp /proc /sys in /rwlivecd
-mount -o bind bin lib sbin usr to the rwlivecd match
-chroot into the livecd
-mount sysfs and proc

right now i am syncing the portage tree, more updates as they come (i am ssh-ed into it remotely from work at the moment)

tcx · Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:19 am Post subject:

Please keep posting your progress.

Good work.

whitesanjuro · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 11

some of the stuff i didn't mention:

- i upgraded the hd from 20G to 120G
- the partitioning tool from the game os only allows you to do a 10G/rest or rest/10G split between game-os/other-os partitions and the hypervisor acts as a shield which presents the other-os as a virtual scsi drive (i.e. /dev/sda) - this is annoying because it means i either do 110G-sony/10G-linux or the opposite...i choose 10G-linux because game installs are big (~5G/game) and i have a fileserver that is easy to get to via samba
- the lack of a video driver is going to be a severe limitation in terms of using the machine as a media front-end
- check out this site for the cell addon cd and source

any questions or advice, let me know :)

branana · n00b Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 29

The live CD has all the modules for ethernet and bluray drive etc? Do you know if the 60GB's wifi has kernel modules for it?

whitesanjuro · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 11

branana · n00b Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 29

I'm curious about Yellow Dog, they are running E17 on theirs. How come they got more than just Framebuffer?

acidraven · n00b Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 4

My first guess is not that they are not hardware accelerated but have made code for the Cells for doing the nice effects. I would love for them to a low us to use the video hardware. But who knows what kind of deal is between nvidia and Sony. and then you have the deals between nvida and who ever it is they have code from that is supposed to be the problem with a official open sourced video driver

Pliablemammal · n00b Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 52 Location: Sacramento

can you s'plain more? :twisted:

cyanide_nfs · n00b Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 22

I had a good look at the FC5 instructions. The distro isn't installed using the official installer, but a seperate binary which is specially released for the PS3. Once you start the installation, it first installs all the RPMs to the hard-disk. After that, it asks for an Addon Disc, which is released by Sony too. This disc contains a few RPMs which I guess are added stuff required specifically for the PS3, including a 2.6.16 kernel rpm - kernel-2.6.16-20061108.ppc64.rpm

But I'd take a guess that that CD can be used only with Fedora Core 5. The good thing is that Power Developer has released kernel patches which should work well on a plain vanilla ppc kernel. Currently, I've noticed that you guys haven't checked out that option, and without that, I wouldn't expect Gentoo to work properly.

There's a bunch of info and links available here in my articles at QJ
http://ps3.qj.net/index.php?bgid=286
http://dl.qj.net/PlayStation-3-Linux-Tools/catid/514

Sucks that I don't have a PS3, but I will get getting on as soon as they're released in India. Nothing like the most kickass Linux distro on a now-kickass console :twisted:

whitesanjuro · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 11

linuxtuxhellsinki · l33t Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 700 Location: Hellsinki

What about the RAM, is it upgradeable anyhow :?:

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whitesanjuro · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 11

cyanide_nfs · n00b Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 22

I don't think it will be possible to increase the RAM.

1] You'll need to be a soldering God, like whitesanjuro said.
2] The OS will probably keep a check on the hardware, like with the 360, so it won't be possible to beat that protection, atleast until we can have a software exploit in the PS3's Game OS. And with Sony actually welcoming Linux on the PS3, there's not much of an incentive to go hunting for exploits. Maybe if Sony don't give RSX support, people might look for software exploits in the Game OS to try to run unsigned code, but I'd say that it'll still be very difficult.

I think right now, we should just try to get stuff working in Linux itself so that we can get to know the hardware much more properly

renrutal · Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject:

whitesanjuro · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 11

check out my google page for details and procedure! i am going to work on getting X going in the future, but now its time to wait for the wii!

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