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I just updated the first page. I added the list of main topics in this thread. If anybody has more he/she thinks should be added, please PM me.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I'm having problems when trying to update qingy to version 0.9.4 with paludis, at the uninstall stage i see:
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Uninstalling sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3::installed
!!! ERROR in sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3:
!!! In ebuild_load_ebuild at line 190
!!! Can't load saved environment
!!! Call stack:
!!! * ebuild_load_ebuild (/usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash:190)
!!! * ebuild_main (/usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash:291)
!!! * main (/usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash:308)
/usr/libexec/paludis/ebuild.bash: line 73: kill: (7338) - No such process
Uninstall error:
* In program paludis -u =sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3:
* When performing uninstall action from command line:
* When executing uninstall task:
* When uninstalling 'sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3' from 'installed':
* Uninstall error: Uninstall failed for 'sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3::installed'
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I think the reason is that 0.9.3 has been removed from portage, but now i don't know how to solve this. If i try paludis -u, it now tells me that i have both 0.9.3 and 0.9.4 installed.
any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
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zxy
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Specify a version | Code: | | paludis -u =sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3::gentoo -p |
or fill in what fits you.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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hi zxy,
thanks for your suggestion, but that is the problem, uninstall does not work, if i pretend i see:
| Code: | paludis -u =sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3 -p
Building unmerge list... done
These packages will be uninstalled:
* sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3::installed
Total: 1 package
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but if i type:
| Code: | | paludis -u =sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3 |
I see the uninstall error i mentioned earlier.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| dayul wrote: | | Code: | !!! ERROR in sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3:
!!! In ebuild_load_ebuild at line 190
!!! Can't load saved environment
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Try running | Code: | | bunzip2 -c /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3/environment.bz2 | bash |
and post any errors. (Anything about readonly variables is normal.) |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| zxy wrote: | | @Bapt: Could you put this scripts on the wiki, with some sort of instructions how to install it. I think It would be cool. |
yes I will do it after christmas |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hi dleverton,
Here is what i see after the bunzip2 command:
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bash: line 12: BASH_VERSINFO: readonly variable
bash: line 70: EUID: readonly variable
bash: line 168: PPID: readonly variable
bash: line 194: SHELLOPTS: readonly variable
bash: line 202: UID: readonly variable
bash: line 316: syntax error near unexpected token `('
bash: line 316: ` done <<(get_mounts);'
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Thanks for your help,
Dale
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| dayul wrote: | | Code: |
bash: line 316: syntax error near unexpected token `('
bash: line 316: ` done <<(get_mounts);'
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OK, that's a bash bug - it would have affected Portage too, except it looks like Portage silently swallows such errors. It was worked around in the tree a few weeks ago, but you still have the old version of the code, that triggers the bug, stored. I think the way to fix it would be (note, I haven't tried this...):
- Make a backup of /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3/environment.bz2, just in case.
- Run
| Code: | | bunzip2 /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3/environment.bz2 |
Edit /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3/environment.
Find the line that says | Code: | | done <<(get_mounts); |
and change it to | Code: | | done <<< "$(get_mounts)" |
Run | Code: | | bzip2 /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/qingy-0.9.3/environment |
Try unmerging it again.
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Happy holidays to all of you.
And some graphical holiday greetings from me are here: http://drzile.dyndns.org/index.php?page=newyear&lang=en
Have fun!
Zxy
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@dayul Paludis is much more pedantic considering everything. It warns much more often than portage does. Portage usualy just swallows something. I had to edit a few ebuilds to make them work. Thanks to this, I feel more at home with ebuilds. I had to digg in the ebuild stuff one day anyway.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| ZSH completion added to the wiki |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| Bapt wrote: | | ZSH completion added to the wiki |
Thanks.
I guess I'll have to migrate to zsh eventualy. I hate writing all of the --whole-word-commands on the command line.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| there is bashcomp for paludis as well so thats not really a good arguement for switching. |
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I want to switch to zsh for some time already, so it's not the main reason.
Any news about new versions of Paludis? What's comming in the new releases?
Any dev has some news?
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I've noticed that you've made a file for storing all of the mirrors that paludis will use instead of having them in make.conf. Now, in portage there's a file /etc/portage/mirrors which stores some default mirrors to use before any others are looked at. Obviously, the reason for using this file is that if an ebuild specifies to only use the upstream mirror, it will download from the upstream mirror even if a mirror mentioned in make.conf (especially one on your local network) has the file.
Unless I'm mistaken, I didn't see a way for paludis to support this. I understand the reasoning for not using this kind of feature is for the (rare) case that the upstream people change a file without making a new version, but that is avoided by the fact that we use checksums to tell us if the file downloaded isn't the same as the expected one.
edit:
My question was answered for me. I went to the paludis website which had some much-improved docs including info on this very question. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: |
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I'm stuck.
Take a look at http://paludis.pioto.org/migration.html
| Quote: | | No matter which method you plan to use, start by installing Paludis. There are ebuilds in the tree, or you can get SVN ebuilds (which Portage can't use) from the Paludis overlay. If you don't like the libxml2 and pcre++ dependencies, turn off the qa USE flag. Make sure you are using at least version 0.14 when following this guide. |
So, I need to use at least version 0.14 when following the migration guide. But 0.14 isn't in the tree. So the only way to migrate from portage to paludis is to already have paludis installed.
Also, I'm confused as to why the SVN ebuilds are mentioned in the migration guide if they can't be used for an actual migration. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| slycordinator wrote: | I'm stuck.
Take a look at http://paludis.pioto.org/migration.html
| Quote: | | No matter which method you plan to use, start by installing Paludis. There are ebuilds in the tree, or you can get SVN ebuilds (which Portage can't use) from the Paludis overlay. If you don't like the libxml2 and pcre++ dependencies, turn off the qa USE flag. Make sure you are using at least version 0.14 when following this guide. |
So, I need to use at least version 0.14 when following the migration guide. But 0.14 isn't in the tree. So the only way to migrate from portage to paludis is to already have paludis installed.
Also, I'm confused as to why the SVN ebuilds are mentioned in the migration guide if they can't be used for an actual migration. |
It's in ~ arch. If .14 is not in portage then use .12. I don't see .14 either and I have .12 installed. (no svn)
--- EDIT ---
.14 version is 5 hours old now. It's gonna be in portage soon. I guess. (I looked in the svn repo)
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| zxy wrote: | | .14 version is 5 hours old now. It's gonna be in portage soon. I guess. (I looked in the svn repo) |
Yeah I didn't realize it was really new.
Also, the bootstrapping guide disappeared in the move to the new site; I guess I'll email ciaranm about that. |
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How do I add version information to my overlays? [Using SVN]
Here's an example:
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Building target list... paludis@1167810432: [WARNING] In program paludis -i palu
... When performing install action from command line:
... When adding install target 'paludis':
... When disambiguating package name 'paludis':
... When looking in repository 'gentoo':
... Names cache for 'gentoo' has no version information, so cannot be used. Ei
as generated using an older Paludis version or it has not yet been generated.
paludis@1167810432: [WARNING] In program paludis -i paludis:
... When performing install action from command line:
... When adding install target 'paludis':
... When disambiguating package name 'paludis':
... When looking in repository 'kports':
... Names cache for 'kports' has no version information, so cannot be used. Ei
as generated using an older Paludis version or it has not yet been generated. |
**EDIT**
Fixed by regenerating installed and installable cache, so it seems.
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I just looked at the changelog. Quite a number of improvements.
I don't know about awk make. It is mentioned in changelog. If awk is used instead of sed it could be much faster. (I wish). I'm not sure abot this, I just read one line in changelog.
I saw zsh completion in the folders, too. Looks like this thread has some effects afterall.
Here is what it says on Ciaranm Thingy
| Ciaranm Thingy wrote: | Paludis 0.14.0 has been released. Aside from a new homepage URL, changes since 0.12.0 include:
- The documentation has been tidied up and extended. Documentation for the Ruby interface is now available.
- paludis --report now also reports unused packages.
- Various demonstration hooks (show new packages after a sync, run report automatically after a sync, enhanced elog message logging) are now included.
- Support for ranged dep atoms and the ~> version operator is now available.
- QA now checks package visibility and profiles. The various QA blacklists are now in text files rather than hard coded.
- A new client for handling cross toolchains, contrarius, is supplied.
- Completion for ZSH is now available.
- CVS can now be used in sync keys for repositories.
- The paludis client can now display a description of USE flags shown in a --install --pretend session. The --dl-deps-default parameter can be used to specify default values for all six dependency classes.
- Various icc and BSD portability fixes.
- The uninstall_ hooks are now called only for real uninstalls. When cleaning a package, clean_ is used instead.
- Paludis now handles reinstalling or upgrading Paludis more cleanly.
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The new homepage is: http://paludis.pioto.org/
---EDIT---
Updated new links on
- Paludis support thread's first page ( and added some new links too...)
- Paludis Wiki
NOTICE: If somebody finds some broken links on the first page or on the wiki, please repair it or PM me.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| zxy wrote: | | I saw zsh completion in the folders, too. Looks like this thread has some effects afterall. |
Yes I wrote a note on the wiki about it, and I talk to ciaranm about it on irc. |
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0.14.0 is in portage  |
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Uhm, I'm quite curious...
what's exactly the meaning of the new use flags:
- cran
- gems
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Should I enable them?
New repository formats??
thanks
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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@jordan83: Try the new function 
| Quote: | | The paludis client can now display a description of USE flags shown in a --install --pretend session. The --dl-deps-default parameter can be used to specify default values for all six dependency classes. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| jordan83 wrote: | Uhm, I'm quite curious...
what's exactly the meaning of the new use flags:
- cran
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Should I enable them?
New repository formats??
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I'm curious aswell! |
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