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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: [ALSA] Problemas con el surround (cerrado) Reply with quote

Muy buenas. Hace tiempo que tengo un soundblaster 5.1 (emu10k) pero me acabo de comprar unos altavoces 5.1. El problema es que aunque he estado mirando los post y el wiki el ingles, haciendo pruebas con
Code:
 speaker-test -c6 -Dsurround51
 
no consigo que funcione el center y el LFE. No se que es lo que me estoy dejando. Pego la salida del amixer:
Code:
fran@localhost ~ $ amixer
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 29 [94%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 29 [94%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Headphone LFE',1
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',1
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%]
Simple mixer control 'Headphone Center',1
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Tone',0
  Capabilities: pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback [off]
  Front Right: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Bass',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 40
  Front Left: 31 [78%]
  Front Right: 31 [78%]
Simple mixer control 'Treble',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 40
  Front Left: 23 [58%]
  Front Right: 23 [58%]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 27 [87%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 27 [87%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Front',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Capture 86 [86%] [off]
  Front Right: Capture 86 [86%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Playback 94 [94%] Capture 24 [24%] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 94 [94%] Capture 24 [24%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Center',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100
  Mono: Playback 94 [94%]
Simple mixer control 'LFE',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100
  Mono: Playback 94 [94%]
Simple mixer control 'Synth',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Playback 94 [94%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 94 [94%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Wave',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Playback 94 [94%] Capture 60 [60%] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 94 [94%] Capture 60 [60%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Wave Center',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100
  Mono: Playback 95 [95%]
Simple mixer control 'Wave LFE',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100
  Mono: Playback 95 [95%]
Simple mixer control 'Wave Surround',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 95 [95%]
  Front Right: Playback 95 [95%]
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Line LiveDrive',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Line2 LiveDrive',1
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'CD',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Mono
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Left: Capture [on]
  Front Right: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Mic1' 'Mic2'
  Item0: 'Mic1'
Simple mixer control 'Video',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Phone',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Mono
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Left: Capture [off]
  Front Right: Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Coaxial',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 LiveDrive',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Optical Raw',0
  Capabilities: pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback [off]
  Front Right: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 TTL',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 0 [0%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 15
  Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Aux',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 15
  Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mix',0
  Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Front Left: Capture [off]
  Front Right: Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0
  Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Front Left: Capture [off]
  Front Right: Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'AC97',0
  Capabilities: pvolume cvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 100 Capture 0 - 100
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 100 [100%]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] Capture 100 [100%]
Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]

Se que hay muchos post de estos pero no he conseguido encontrar el problema.
Muchas gracias.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tengo la tarjeta
Code:
# lspci | grep audio
02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)

# cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Live           ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live 5.1
                      SB Live 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) at 0xd100, irq 3

y el 5.1 me funciona perfectamente.


Haz lo siguiente:

  1. Detén el servicio
    Code:
    /etc/init.d/alsasound stop

  2. Asegúrate de que /etc/conf.d/alsasound contiene RESTORE_ON_START="yes"
  3. Copia mis ajustes del mixer a /etc/asound.state
  4. Reinicia el servicio
    Code:
    /etc/init.d/alsasound start

  5. Ejecuta
    Code:
    # speaker-test -c6 -twav -D surround51



Si sigue sin irte, comprueba el resto de ajustes:

Code:
# grep ALSA_CARDS /etc/make.conf
ALSA_CARDS="emu10k1"


Code:
# cat /etc/modules.d/alsa
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore

alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1

alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

options snd-emu10k1 index=0

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

options snd cards_limit=1



Elimina (mejor cambia el nombre) el archivo ~/.asoundrc por si está interfiriendo.

De momento no se me ocurre nada más, cuéntanos que tal te fue.

Saludozzzzzzz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gracias. Lo que propones ya lo habia probado porque lo habias puesto en respuesta a un post ingles. Al reiniciar el servicio dice:
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localhost etc # /etc/init.d/alsasound start
 * Loading ALSA modules ...
 * Could not detect custom ALSA settings.  Loading all detected alsa drivers.
 *   Loading: snd_emu10k1 ...                                             [ ok ]
 *   Loading: snd-emu10k1-synth ...                                       [ ok ]
 *   Loading: snd-seq-midi ...                                            [ ok ]
 * Restoring Mixer Levels ...
/usr/sbin/alsactl: set_control:970: failed to obtain info for control #47 (No such file or directory)
 * Errors while restoring defaults, ignoring

Y los unicos altavoces que funcionan son los traseros (iz y der.). Si subo el volumen del PCM, que estaba a mute vuelvo a tener sonido en el delantero derecho e izquierdo pero me quedo igual que al principio :?
Alguna idea mas? Muchas gracias.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creo que ese error es porque usamos versiones distintas de Alsa y algún control ha cambiado de nombre. Estoy usando media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc1 y media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.14_rc1

Prueba aunque sea solo pro saber si el problema es de los ajustes del mixer o del driver. Si te funciona, perfecto, si no, tal vez tengamos revisiones distintas de SB y haya algo que falle con la tuya y sea interesante reportarlo a la lista de correo de Alsa.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estoy algo perdido 8O
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localhost fran # lspci | grep audio
00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
localhost fran # cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Live           ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live 5.1
                      SB Live 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) at 0xd000, irq 11

Y he actualizado a tu version del driver y la cosa sigue igual, quejandose de lo mismo. Lo que me ha llamado la atencion es que no solo me quita el control 47, me quita todos los referentes a sigmatel, que no se que pinta aqui. ¿Quizas porque tu tengas tambien una tarjeta de esa marca?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tengo otra tarjeta, pero en esos controles no aparecen sus ajustes, me preocupé de borrarlos antes de subirlos. Aunque suene raro, mi SB tiene un chipset de control SigmaTel. Concretamente, esto es lo que aparece en la parte superior izquierda de alsamixer:

Quote:
Card: SB Live 5.1
Chip: SigmaTel STAC9708,11


A mi ya no se me ocurre que puede ser. Si repasando http://alsa.opensrc.org/SbLiveMixerControls no das con el ajuste que controla el LFE y el central, tal vez no sea fallo de software. El central y LFE usan el mismo cable y la misma conexión. Prueba conectando el cable de los delanteros (o los traseros) al canal del LFE y del central para ver si reproduce algún sonido y viceversa, conecta el cable del central en la clavija de los delanteros (o los traseros).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siento haber tardado en contestar, ando liado con los examenes y se me olvido. Por casualidad estube tocando los cables y conectando el cable del subwoofer a otro jack (azul, vete a saber porque cuando el cable es rosa :? ) la cosa funciona. Muchisimas gracias por la ayuda.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perdon por el offtopic, solo una preguntilla (hardware)...

lo teneis enchufado con altavoces/conectores especiales?

Lo digo porque tambien tengo una sound blaster live 5.1 y la quiero conectar a mi amplificador.

Donde puedo encontar una foto de los cables que usais?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo lo tengo conectado a unos altavoces analógicos con cables jack 3.5mm estándar macho .

La salida de la tarjeta de sonido por norma general usa conectores jack 3.5mm hembra, por lo que necesitarás para cada dos canales un cable jack 3.5mm macho. Lo normal es tener 6 canales (2 delanteros, 2 traseros, el central y el subwoofer) por lo que necesitarás 3 cables. El otro extremo dependerá de tu amplificador, que supongo que usará cables RCA. Asegurate de que tu amplificador puede reproducir 3 canales estéreo (6 canales a la vez) o no te servirá de nada que tu tarjeta sea de 5.1 ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gracias stolz, pero es lo que me temia. Ya lo habia visto montado de esta manera.

Hace mucho tiempo que tengo esta tarjeta y no tengo manuales ni nada, por internet poco he encontrado, pero por lo visto no es posible lo que yo queria: tener una salida (al lado que conectaria el amplificador) digital con un solo cable cable RCA.

Gracias de todos modos. Saludos!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Si activas la salida digital (en alsamixer se llama SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack), puedes usar un solo cable para todos los canales (aunque dado el tipo de clavija de la tarjeta, al menos uno de los extremos no será RCA, sino jack de 3.5mm). Eso sí, necesitas un amplificador que admita entradas digitales.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pues esto ya me interesa mas!

El amplificador que tengo acepta digital con fibra optica y rca! Como tengo que pedir el cable en la tienda? Para que parezca que se lo que quiero... :oops:
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aunque los datos sean digitales la portadora es analógica, así es que el cable es uno normal. Como la salida del la tarjeta es un jack estandar de 3.5mm y la entrada digital de tu amplificador es RCA, supongo que deberás pedir un cable con un extremo jack 3.5mm y el otro RCA ;).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, gracias, ya informaré!
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