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Elfan
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Interpreting smartd logs Reply with quote

A cron job runs logwatch nightly and part of the summary is from smartd. Over the past few days entries like the following have appeared:

/dev/hdb :
Prefailure: Seek_Error_Rate (7) changed to
100,
/dev/hdb :
Prefailure: Seek_Error_Rate (7) changed to
200, 100, 200, 100,
/dev/hdb :
Prefailure: Seek_Error_Rate (7) changed to
200, 100, 200,

Those are for Jul 09, 10, 12. No Seek_Error_Rate change is reported on the 11th. I know that just because something is labeled "prefailure" doesn't mean it is bad that it changes. Searching I could not find any instance of only this problem being reported. I have never seen it before. No error has been logged nor has any self test (run nightly) failed. Complete info below.

Is the Seek_Error_Rate attribute changing a sign of a problem?

Code:

# smartctl --all /dev/hdb
smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Western Digital Caviar SE family
Device Model:     WDC WD1200JB-00FUA0
Serial Number:    WD-WMAES1461204
Firmware Version: 15.05R15
User Capacity:    120,034,123,776 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   6
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:    Thu Jul 12 20:56:45 2007 EDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82) Offline data collection activity
                                        was completed without error.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                        without error or no self-test has ever
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                 (4005) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x79) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        No Auto Offline data collection support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (  55) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   5) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   200   200   051    Pre-fail Always       -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   144   136   021    Pre-fail Always       -       3325
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   040    Old_age Always       -       104
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   199   199   140    Pre-fail Always       -       1
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   200   200   051    Pre-fail Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   066   066   000    Old_age Always       -       25273
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   051    Pre-fail Always       -       0
 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013   100   253   051    Pre-fail Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age Always       -       90
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   112   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       38
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   199   199   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0012   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0009   200   155   051    Pre-fail Offline      -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       150      -
# 2  Extended offline    Aborted by host               90%       150      -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       136      -
# 4  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       112      -
# 5  Short offline       Completed without error       00%        89      -
# 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%        65      -
# 7  Short offline       Completed without error       00%        42      -
# 8  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%        19      -
# 9  Conveyance offline  Completed without error       00%      1086      -
#10  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1062      -
#11  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1038      -
#12  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      1014      -
#13  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       990      -
#14  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       966      -
#15  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%       943      -
#16  Conveyance offline  Completed without error       00%       918      -
#17  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       894      -
#18  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       872      -
#19  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       848      -
#20  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       824      -
#21  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       800      -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Is the Seek_Error_Rate attribute changing a sign of a problem?
Is a sign that your hardware is getting older. I would start to worry, if those values drop below their thresholds. And remember, smartd is only a tool, i might be that your hdd fails without warning.

Counter-Question: How old is your hdd, and how often has it been used?

I have had several cases, where the hdd failed after 3 years, and judging from the printout you gave, yours is about 2-3 years old.

cheers
V.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the reply. It's about 3-4 years old. It's been on for most of that time but not heavily accessed (ie the OS is on another disk). All of the data is backed up too (had my main disk die before, learned lesson).

I think one of Google's studies said smartd predicted about 50% of failure cases, which is better than the disk dieing on you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reply from the smart mailing list:

Quote:
I think this looks OK -- no obvious signs of trouble. You have one
reallocated sector but no current or offline pending sectors.
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