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JoelCogen n00b
Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Waterloo / Belgium / 50.7062N 4.408E
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: Gnome 2.18 unstable |
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Hi all,
I'm quiet new to Gentoo and although I am very pleased with the way things are going so far, I'm experiencing severe instability, but I'm not sure about what's causing it.
I'm running Gnome 2.18 with Xorg 7.2, nvidia-drivers 100.14.09 (geForce 8600M), on an Asus F3SV.
I get two kinds of crashes:
Sometimes, when I hit the Gnome power button and the confirm, the computer freezes. I'm forced to shut down manually. This never append (yet?) when I type poweroff or restart in a terminal or when I shut down from Enlightenment (E17, but I don't use it that much), and it's not the most frequent crash. I usually get it when I'm emerging new stuff and rebuilding the kernel, but when everything is up to date it seems to append less (maybe I reboot less, too...)
More often, I get a partially-black screen and loose control of keyboard and mouse (pointer moves but no click) when I play around too much with Gnome/gdm. By playing around I mean: locking the screen (I had to disable auto-locking when closing the lid because I could NEVER get back to gnome after re-opening my laptop), switching users, switching to tty1, 2, 3, ... (sometimes switching to tty works, but getting back to tty7 results in a crash)
The first is not that important since it only appends when I shut down, but you can realize the second is very annoying.
No more than one hour ago it crashed because the screensaver started fading in and then I moved the mouse, resulting in a partially-faded-out screen. I still had mouse control so I clicked shut down in Gnome: bad idea, resulting in a freeze, 6 secs on the power button and...
So, if you have any idea on why I get these problems....
Thanks _________________ Joel Cogen |
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EvilFurby n00b
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 28 Location: Derbyshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm also suffering from Gnome instability issues on my Toshiba X200-20S. I'm running the same nvidia drivers with my 8700M.
When I load up Gnome the clock(top right) and associated panel icons fails to load. The mouse cursor moves but the menus are not responsive or fails to exit gnome when requested.
I've also had some kernel stability issues which makes me this its related to my compiler options.
For 64bit my CFLAGS contains -march nocona. There is -march core2 in GCC 4.3 but that is not available yet. I'd be interested to know what you have CFLAGS set to. |
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JoelCogen n00b
Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Waterloo / Belgium / 50.7062N 4.408E
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe"
I mostly followed the advises in the AMD64 Handbook to choose them... _________________ Joel Cogen |
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drwook Veteran
Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 1324 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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First thing to check with 'erratic' lockups that happen more often during compiling or other heavy use should probably be a memtest. |
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EvilFurby n00b
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 28 Location: Derbyshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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My RAM checks out ok and I have had no problems compiling packages. What I have noticed is that the gnome problems seems to appear when the configuration is changed from the default (ie putting icons on the top bar and/or adding panel applets). Not sure if this is related or not. |
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drwook Veteran
Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 1324 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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But it's erratic right? (ie if you do something and get a segfault, then do exactly the same again you don't?)
Any overlays/custom ebuilds? CFLAGS? (actually, emerge --info would be handy)
Tried a revdep-rebuild, in case of dependancy issues (though they shouldn't cause an *erratic* problem) |
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JoelCogen n00b
Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Waterloo / Belgium / 50.7062N 4.408E
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I have erratic and none-erratic problems:
- I get 2 crashes no matter what: when I try to launch cups from Gnome's services panel (I have to run cupsd from a terminal) and when I click "connect to another wireless network" in NetworkManager. I can leave with that, but it might give some interesting info...
- I get erratic crashes when I switch user, lock screen, switch to tty1...6, etc.
- I get erratic freezes when I shut down or reboot from Gnome
emerge --info :
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Portage 2.1.2.12 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 x86_64)
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System uname: 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7300 @ 2.00GHz
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
Timestamp of tree: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:30:01 +0000
app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1
dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9-r2
sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61
sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils: 2.17
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.24
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.21
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/terminfo"
CXXFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/portage/local/layman/enlightenment"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X aac acl acpi alsa amd64 avahi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cairo cdr cli cracklib crypt cups divx dri dvd emerald ffmpeg fortran ftp gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk hal iconv ipv6 isdnlog java jpeg libcaca mad midi mmx mp2 mp3 mpeg mpg mudflap ncurses networkmanager nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin nvidia ogg opengl openmp oss pam pcre perl png pppd python quicktime rar readline realmedia reflection session spl srt sse sse2 ssl stroke svg tcpd tga tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode vorbis wmp wmv xml xorg xpm xvid zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"
Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS
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EvilFurby n00b
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 28 Location: Derbyshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I solved my problems by disabling software sound mixing (ESD). Gnome now runs stable for me. |
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Dr.Impossible n00b
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:38 am Post subject: |
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I'm having similar problems with the gnome panel. My configuration is really close to that of JoelCogen's. In fact, it was really bad until I disabled SMP NUMA support in my kernel (I have no idea why it was enabled in the first place). gnome-panel will randomly crash for me if I do too many things at once in Rhythmbox or play around with Gnome's menus or preference pages a little too much.
Actually, last time gnome-panel crashed for me I tried clicking on a launcher button in the gnome panel that opens gnome-terminal. The menus, buttons and clock in the gnome panel stopped responding, but some of the applets (notably, Weather Report and Notification Area) continued working normally. I was able to switch to another screen and kill gnome-panel with top, at which point it automatically reloaded and everything worked fine after.
I'm going to try disabling ESD to see if that solves the problem for me. |
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JoelCogen n00b
Joined: 19 Aug 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Waterloo / Belgium / 50.7062N 4.408E
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I have one question for people who have the same problem: do you all run dual-core cpus ? Because I'm looking in the kernel and I see stuff like "suspend on SMP (EXPERIMENTAL)", and the NUMA thing (which was enabled for me), and so I'm thinking maybe gnome is messing up because of all not-so-stable smp features.
I'm compiling without NUMA right now, I'll see if there's any change... _________________ Joel Cogen |
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Dr.Impossible n00b
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: |
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I'm running an amd64 build on a Intel Core 2 Duo. As far as I know, this processor doesn't support NUMA, so it should be disabled in the kernel (even though it's enabled by default apparently).
It's been nearly a week since I turned off ESD, and that seems to have solved the stability issues in gnome-panel so far. But, now totem will sometimes crash when playing a song and vlc will sometimes refuse to produce any sound at all. |
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