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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just tested the

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 Option      "AccelMethod" "EXA"



i noticed a little speedup
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glxgears
36447 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7289.340 FPS
29736 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5947.114 FPS
38155 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7630.990 FPS
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i noticed a little speedup
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glxgears
36447 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7289.340 FPS
29736 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5947.114 FPS
38155 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7630.990 FPS


well, congratulations. what are the other specs of your machine?
what server version are you using?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm running a Opteron 1212 with 4GB RAM

i'm running
xorg-x11-7.3
xorg-server-1.4-r1
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nvidia doesn't use exa, so the exa option will have no impact with a nvidia card.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gusar wrote:
Nvidia doesn't use exa, so the exa option will have no impact with a nvidia card.
It does if you're using the open source 'nv' drivers.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtascii wrote:
i noticed a little speedup
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glxgears
36447 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7289.340 FPS
29736 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5947.114 FPS
38155 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7630.990 FPS


Given the amount of fluctuation you really have to let it run a lot longer to make any conclusions. And remember: glxgears is a bad benchmark for anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i tried Xorg 7.3, too.
But i found out, that when i use "evdev" for the mouse, it is freezed although i re-emerged evdev.
The second issue ist, that when i switch vom German to US Layout on the Keyboard, the keys are wrong until i switch back to DE Layout.
The third thing is, that my hotkey "win+alt+-" in Openbox results in a wrong action.

So it seems, that we have to wait for newer packages of the xf86-input ebuilds.

And yes my LEDs don't work, too :)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matteo Azzali wrote:
It seems that the new Nvidia drivers solve the ABI issue, see
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=97942


I would love to try those out to see for myself but the problem is that those drivers dont support my hardware. I have a Geforce 4 MX4000 in this machine and I need the 96xx driver series. I know im living in the stone age with this card, but it is a work machine and thats all I can get for it.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i-right-i wrote:
Matteo Azzali wrote:
It seems that the new Nvidia drivers solve the ABI issue, see
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=97942


I would love to try those out to see for myself but the problem is that those drivers dont support my hardware. I have a Geforce 4 MX4000 in this machine and I need the 96xx driver series. I know im living in the stone age with this card, but it is a work machine and thats all I can get for it.

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ditto. Does this mean I can't use 7.3 ever??
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine works with the --ignoreABI option for now but it is only a matter of time before not even that will work if Nvidia doesn't plan on releasing a new 96XX series driver to support Xorg 7.3. You also have to make sure that Composite is disabled too.

However some people are not able to make this work like I have.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mathfeel wrote:

ditto. Does this mean I can't use 7.3 ever??

They'll release a driver for legacy cards soon with support for xorg 7.3 and newer kernels (2.6.23). At least that's what i read from one of the nvidia developers on their forums.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have this problem where I can't use the new Xorg as a regular user but can as root.

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AUDIT: Sat Sep 22 22:26:57 2007: 7513 X: client 2 rejected from local host (uid 1000)
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Sat Sep 22 22:26:57 2007: 7513 X: client 2 rejected from local host (uid 1000)
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1

That's the error the xorg log is throwing at me.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bl00dseeker wrote:
Well i tried Xorg 7.3, too.
But i found out, that when i use "evdev" for the mouse, it is freezed although i re-emerged evdev.

I had this problem too, but re-emerging evdev and doing dispatch-conf got it working again. However I now have the weirdest of problems. If I play any 3d game (i tested ut2004 and quake4) with the evdev driver the mouse moves extremely weird, like its in some kind of jelly! I tested with the standard mouse driver and the mouse worked ok there (except it doesn't pick up my extra mouse buttons automatically like evdev, so evdev ftw :)). Can anyone else here test a game in full screen with the evdev driver and see if they have the same weird mouse movement? I say test in fullscreen because if you run the game windowed it works fine. Doubt it makes a difference but I'm using xfce anyway.

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And yes my LEDs don't work, too :)

Noticed this too. Was very strange. And having to recompile the drivers a second time to get them to work was a bit silly. So much for improved hotplugging support eh.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a pretty troublesome update, I couldn't get it to work until I rebooted the system.

BTW xorgcfg == sweet
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

piercey wrote:

I had this problem too, but re-emerging evdev and doing dispatch-conf got it working again. However I now have the weirdest of problems. If I play any 3d game (i tested ut2004 and quake4) with the evdev driver the mouse moves extremely weird, like its in some kind of jelly! I tested with the standard mouse driver and the mouse worked ok there (except it doesn't pick up my extra mouse buttons automatically like evdev, so evdev ftw :)). Can anyone else here test a game in full screen with the evdev driver and see if they have the same weird mouse movement? I say test in fullscreen because if you run the game windowed it works fine. Doubt it makes a difference but I'm using xfce anyway.


I'm trying new xorg as well, except the led problem I have the problem with mouse. It's not exactly the same, but it's really wired! I didn't try evdev, but with the standard mouse driver mouse motion in Quake3.... is really strange. It looks like my mouse just doesn't react on really slow movements. If I would start moving mouse _really_ slow the pointer stays at the same position :( This behavior applies only for Quake3 and in X mouse works fine, so I think it's somehow opengl related.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Master Shake wrote:
I have this problem where I can't use the new Xorg as a regular user but can as root.

Code:
AUDIT: Sat Sep 22 22:26:57 2007: 7513 X: client 2 rejected from local host (uid 1000)
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
AUDIT: Sat Sep 22 22:26:57 2007: 7513 X: client 2 rejected from local host (uid 1000)
  Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1

That's the error the xorg log is throwing at me.


anyone have any ideas about this? Its not an xorg.conf problem. Its my user is being denied access to the X server. I don't know what to do about this one. Spent most of the night seeing if adding my user to different groups would work. Can anyone think of a reason why xauth would be blocking my user access to X?

EDIT:
(SOLUTION)

What you need to do if you have this error is delete .Xauthority in /home/(your user)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, so what's the big thing with Xorg 7.3? I upgraded...that was a hassel. Now everything looks exactly the same, I get about the same fps in games. What can it do that the older versions can't?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VoVaN wrote:
my mouse just doesn't react on really slow movements

Put in the mouse's "InputDevice" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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Option "Sensitivity" "0.18"

Then restart X. Then:
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xset m 0 0  # emerge xset if command not found

For more info:
Code:
ebuild /usr/portage/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse/xf86-input-mouse-1.2.2.ebuild unpack
vi /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.2.2/work/xf86-input-mouse-1.2.2/src/mouse.c
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just setup 7.3 with the new Radeon drivers. xf86-video-ati-6.7.193.

Its working great so far. havnt really bothered with dri yet tho as it is a work laptop. what i do want is duel screen working properly. now it seems with 7.3 its all moved to randr and out of the driver which is good. but it seems randr has a limitation of 2560 as the max width... is there a way around this or do we just have to sit back and wait?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i have seemed to sort it out. you have to set the virtual command under your display depth. :D now to work on dri

a good page

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2


EDIT:

Ok DRI working now.... this has been really easy... no need for windows at work now.

when i run glxgears i do get this

libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x63

anyone know if this is an issue?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulBredbury wrote:
VoVaN wrote:
my mouse just doesn't react on really slow movements

Put in the mouse's "InputDevice" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Code:
Option "Sensitivity" "0.18"

Then restart X. Then:
Code:
xset m 0 0  # emerge xset if command not found

For more info:
Code:
ebuild /usr/portage/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse/xf86-input-mouse-1.2.2.ebuild unpack
vi /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.2.2/work/xf86-input-mouse-1.2.2/src/mouse.c


Thank you for the info. As I mentioned already, mouse works fine in X server, but not in opengl games. Would it be still my case?
EDIT: Why it happends only with the new xorg server, while the mouse driver is the same for both of them?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My LED's on the keyboard are not working after upgrade. I mean they only doesn't switch on. Caps lock, and num lock are working. Just no light :wink:
What gives?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dylan_stark wrote:
My LED's on the keyboard are not working after upgrade. I mean they only doesn't switch on. Caps lock, and num lock are working. Just no light :wink:
What gives?

That's a known issue with the new Xorg version. Same here. I think they did not release a fix yet...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Downgrade Reply with quote

How can I downgrade safely?
I ran into a couple of problems (terrible xv performance with mplayer, artifacts and crashes) after I upgraded to xorg-7.3 although I could get everything working (including linuxwacom).
As I really need my video performance back, I decided to downgrade but ran into problems with xf86-input-keyboard, which wouldn't compile.
Any advice?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so I read mixed posts..
can answer me a simple questions?
can nvidia users upgradeto the new Xorg or not yet?
it is stable?

Thanks.
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