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Master Shake l33t
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 755 Location: Wilmington, Delaware
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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rek2 wrote: | so I read mixed posts..
can answer me a simple questions?
can nvidia users upgradeto the new Xorg or not yet?
it is stable?
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I had some issues. But everything so far is fine. I'd say go for it. _________________ System Specs:
64-bit gentoo linux
Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz
P35 Chipset
4 Gigs 800mhz 4-4-4-12
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX @ 630mhz |
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naseweis Apprentice
Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 159 Location: germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: Downgrade |
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I should have mentioned that I have an nvidia card. _________________ Nothing makes a person more productive than the last minute. |
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jonnevers Veteran
Joined: 02 Jan 2003 Posts: 1594 Location: Gentoo64 land
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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rek2 wrote: | so I read mixed posts..
can answer me a simple questions?
can nvidia users upgradeto the new Xorg or not yet?
it is stable?
Thanks. |
yes. the original issue with the nvidia-drivers is that they weren't updated for xorg07.3's new ABI.
nvidia-drivers-100.14.19 corrected this issue.
nvidia-drivers-100.14.19 + xorg-7.3 works perfectly fine on my amd64 system. |
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i-right-i Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 118 Location: Chandler, AZ USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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rek2 wrote: | so I read mixed posts..
can answer me a simple questions?
can nvidia users upgradeto the new Xorg or not yet?
it is stable?
Thanks. |
You can upgrade pretty reliably if you have a Nvidia FX (5XXX) card or later as there is a new driver for that series. Older cards do not have a driver yet with the ABI changes, some people have gotten older cards to work by disabling composite and using the --ignoreABI option, your milage may vary though. There is an issue still with the keyboard scroll lock, num lock, and caps lock lights.
Since its not in the stable tree, then Offically no, it's not stable.
If you don't have any specific reason to upgrade or if it will work for you or not, then I would advise against it at this time, and wait for it to go stable.
I am running 7.3, but I am not seeing any vast improvements in anything so far.
~i-right-i _________________ Gentoo on x86
Gentoo on SPARC |
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jonnevers Veteran
Joined: 02 Jan 2003 Posts: 1594 Location: Gentoo64 land
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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i-right-i wrote: | I am running 7.3, but I am not seeing any vast improvements in anything so far. |
one of the 'vast' improvements is hot plugging input devices, are you set up to use this new functionality? if you are still using your existing xorg.conf from xorg-7.2 then you wouldn't really see 'vast' improvments. |
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Master Shake l33t
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 755 Location: Wilmington, Delaware
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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If I take out the sections for my mouse and keyboard, xorg will configure them with no issues now? _________________ System Specs:
64-bit gentoo linux
Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz
P35 Chipset
4 Gigs 800mhz 4-4-4-12
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX @ 630mhz |
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i-right-i Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 118 Location: Chandler, AZ USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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jonnevers wrote: | i-right-i wrote: | I am running 7.3, but I am not seeing any vast improvements in anything so far. |
one of the 'vast' improvements is hot plugging input devices, are you set up to use this new functionality? if you are still using your existing xorg.conf from xorg-7.2 then you wouldn't really see 'vast' improvments. |
Yes I am setup for this, and yes Xorg will detect them now. But since I do not change input devices ever, to me the point is moot. So again, there are no significant, vast, major, blinding, uber, woot (whatever you choose to put in quotes) .....changes from what I am seeing.
~i-right-i _________________ Gentoo on x86
Gentoo on SPARC |
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naseweis Apprentice
Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 159 Location: germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I managed to downgrade by downgrading xorg-server as first package with "--nodeps". I assume unmerging xorg-server before re-emerging anything would do the trick too. _________________ Nothing makes a person more productive than the last minute. |
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Hwoarang Retired Dev
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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I just upgraded Xorg to 7.3. Everything is ok except one thing
One boot I show this message " "gdm" Uknown username on Message bus" . I havent seen that before. Any idea? I wonder why it says "gdm" since I am using KDE |
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tarpman Veteran
Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 1083 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I've updated to the new xorg-x11-7.3 and corresponding nvidia-drivers on both my machines, and noticed the same problem on both of them: compositing is ridiculously slow. My laptop uses openbox with xcompmgr and my desktop uses beryl; my terminal on both is a transparent borderless rxvt-unicode, and opening or resizing a terminal can take almost a second - the bigger the new size, the worse it is. During that time, one CPU core is going at 100%. Additionally, activating the transparent cube in beryl gives a noticeably bigger FPS penalty than it did before. Anyone else experiencing this issue or able to suggest a fix? My xorg.conf has not changed from xorg-x11-7.2, where it worked fine on both systems. _________________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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widremann Veteran
Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 1314
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:11 am Post subject: |
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There's a message on the xorg mailing list about how this release was a bit munged. A lot of critical bugs weren't fixed and things weren't packaged properly. QA was severely lacking, probably because they tried to get the release out the door on the (already delayed) deadline. For me, it was broken out of the box, with numerous regressions worse than even 7.2. I'm still stuck on 7.1 because that's the only X server that has fast EXA + compositing. I really wish I could upgrade, but they have time and again failed to fix EXA slowness bugs that I have reported so many times on blogs, forums, mailing lists and bug reports. I watch the commit logs every day hoping that something is done, but I just doubt it. I guess I'm waiting for 7.4... |
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Hwoarang Retired Dev
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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I dont see any difference from Xorg 7.2 FPS are as low as on 7.2 . Composite is still slow. In my opinion this upgrade was worthless. I am considering going back to 7.2 |
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enderandrew l33t
Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 731
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: |
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I thought 7.3 was going to also have an improved xrandr app, as well as the ability to change the resolution of your mouse. _________________ Nihilism makes me smile. |
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