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cayenne l33t
Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 945 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: Need Recommendation for PCI Raid card? |
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Hello all,
Someone recently gave me an older compaq box...P4 something or other, about half a GB of ram. I'm wanting to just load it up with large harddrives and use it as a file server. I recently found $99 500GB ATA drives at CompUSA...and bought 4 of them.
I was wanting to play with doing a RAID 5 box with all this...and in the past had read that software raid really didn't cut it, and to use hardware raid.
Can someone recommend a good PCI RAID card that will do RAID 5, and will work with Linux, specifically one that seems to work well with Gentoo? Brand? Options to look for?
Thanks in advance,
cayenne _________________ Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... |
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HymnToLife n00b
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 54 Location: Brest, France
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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The software RAID is very good, and usually performs better than all but the most expensive hardware RAID solutions. I personnally have three 500 GiB drives in software RAID-5 and am perfectly happy with it, so I suggest you try that first and see if it suits your needs before spending some bucks on a hardware RAID card.
However, since your drive seem to be PATA (and not SATA), this might be a problem, performance-wise... _________________ Easiest way never leads anywhere... |
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cayenne l33t
Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 945 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: I may look at this then...but, still interested in Hardware |
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HymnToLife wrote: | The software RAID is very good, and usually performs better than all but the most expensive hardware RAID solutions. I personnally have three 500 GiB drives in software RAID-5 and am perfectly happy with it, so I suggest you try that first and see if it suits your needs before spending some bucks on a hardware RAID card.
However, since your drive seem to be PATA (and not SATA), this might be a problem, performance-wise... |
Thank you for the prompt reply!!
I may look into trying this...I found this doc:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml
Are there any other links that you worked from to do the software raid on Gentoo? Any hints of things to do/look for in prep for install?
If anyone had hardware info, I'd still be very interested in those too!
Cayenne _________________ Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... |
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HymnToLife n00b
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 54 Location: Brest, France
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Everything you need to setup a software RAID is here :
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID
Basically, you just create a FD partition on each one of your drives spanning the whole drive, and then you do
Code: | mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 |
or whatever your drives are called. Then you create whichever filesystem you want on /dev/md0 using mkfs and you're there. _________________ Easiest way never leads anywhere... |
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cayenne l33t
Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 945 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: Will this card work? |
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I thought I'd found a good priced RAID card.... PROMISE FastTrak SX4060
But, one review on newegg.com said that it didn't work with 2.6x kernels.
Can anyone confirm that this card won't work?
If it won't...still looking for recommendations for a hardware raid card...that will do raid5 with 4x IDE harddrives.....
TIA,
cayenne _________________ Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... |
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Cyker Veteran
Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Eck... RAID5 on IDE is a lesson in pain; Definitely don't do it unless your system has 4 IDE channels, as opposed to the standard two!
Software RAID over PCI also has dubious performance; Under heavy load you can easily saturate the bus with IO traffic and associated crap.
Hardware RAID is fine on PCI - It only sends one stream of data and not 4, and Adaptec SCSI RAID cards I've come across have been very good. But they aren't cheap.
I dunno about IDE RAID controllers; I know SCSI and SATA 'True' hardware RAID controllers are very expensive. There are a lot of cheaper RAID cards, but these are almost always 'accelerated'/fake RAID, which have the worst of both worlds
I had a quick read up on your SX4060, and that looks like a fakeRAID card (It says it uses your CPU, which is usually a good indication it's not 'true' hardware RAID).
However, it could still work as extra IDE ports for software RAID...
TBH 'tho, software RAID's only come into its own on newer systems which don't use the PCI bus as the main bus. PCIe and HyperTransport with SATA allow software RAID to whip most hardware RAID systems without robbing the system of all performance |
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barophobia Apprentice
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 229 Location: somewhere
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Will this card work? |
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cayenne wrote: | I
If it won't...still looking for recommendations for a hardware raid card...that will do raid5 with 4x IDE harddrives.....
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You need 4 IDE channels to make that work with any reasonable speed. Only one drive can talk at a time when you have a master/slave combo. _________________ An apple is an apple unless you say it is not an apple! |
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cayenne l33t
Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 945 Location: New Orleans
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Will this card work? |
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barophobia wrote: |
You need 4 IDE channels to make that work with any reasonable speed. Only one drive can talk at a time when you have a master/slave combo. |
Thanks to all for the suggestions.
If I go the software RAID route....can someone recommend a good PCI IDE card that I could use to add two more IDE channels for a total for 4?
TIA,
cayenne _________________ Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak......... |
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