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n0ir n00b
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 53 Location: Milky Way
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2002 4:43 pm Post subject: New ATI card |
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Did you guys see this article at Anandtech?
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1656
It looks like Nvidia has some competition finally. I love seeing the underdog score points. _________________ I'm no home run hitter, but I'll still step up to bat. |
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TheMole Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 09 May 2002 Posts: 76 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2002 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, yes, so do I, but will there be linux drivers, as that is currently nvidia's major advantage to me... _________________ "Nevermore" - The Raven |
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ASCI Blue Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 132
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I can't say for sure BUT the new FireGL card is going to use the Radeon 9700's chip (R300). If we remember the Radeon 8500 and FireGL 8000 series used the same chip and had linux drivers. The FireGL drivers also worked with the Radeon 8500, so ATM I'm hoping that the brilliant mind who did the FireGL drivers for that series is doing them for this one as well with the same side effect. It would be beyond badass to have a Radeon 9700 and 3d gaming goodness in linux. |
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Kabuto l33t
Joined: 01 Aug 2002 Posts: 701
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2002 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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So, has anyone ran any Linux benchmarks on the ATI R300 with the FireGL or new DRI drivers to get an idea how they compare to NVIDIA in speed. I am thinking of upgrading my GF2MX. The ATI would be nice depending on the speed in Linux. I would hate to get a faster card than an equivalent NVIDIA but then have the drivers slow it down to where a cheap GF4MX would out run it. |
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ASCI Blue Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 132
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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The R300 cards aren't due until September. |
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ASCI Blue Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 132
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Just read on Linux games that the Parnhelia (newest Matrox card) has linux drivers "comming soon" I hope ATI doesn't drop the ball on the Radeon 9700 and 9500. |
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Kabuto l33t
Joined: 01 Aug 2002 Posts: 701
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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Oops, sorry I meant the R200 cards (8500). |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20417
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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I've read somewhere that Radeon cards (some/all?) have good drivers. Also, that ATI is supposedly going to have better linux support in Jan (I think '03). _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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ASCI Blue Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 132
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 3:25 am Post subject: |
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The current Radeon cards have okay linux support. The R100 (Radeon 32 DDR, 64 DDR VIVO, and 7500) have drivers built into Xfree86. R200 (Radeon 8500/LE/128 meg) have the FireGL drivers by ATI. I'm not sure if it was dumb luck or what but the FireGL 8XXX cards are built with the R200 core. The R300 (Radeon 9700, 9500) will share a core with the FireGL X1 (or G1 or H1 or something) and those linux drivers *should* work.
ATI getting better linux support would be great, now it's an option they can't afford not to have. On the Rage3d forums it's been confirmed that nVidia (obviously), Kyro, and Matrox all have linux drivers from the company. It's nice to have opensource drivers and all but sometimes it's just not appropriate, or there needs to be an option between open and closed source. |
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delta407 Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 2876 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 3:34 am Post subject: |
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kanuslupus wrote: | I've read somewhere that Radeon cards (some/all?) have good drivers. |
Not to start a flame war, but my experience with a Radeon VE (7000) gave me the impression that the drivers were really, really, really sucky. (OpenGL was faster in software than in hardware, even though under Windows on the same box the card gave a 2-3x speed boost.) _________________ I don't believe in witty sigs. |
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ASCI Blue Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 132
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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With no intent to flame I must state that the Radeon VE was not designed as a gaming card, it was designed iirc to have multi-monitor support. |
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delta407 Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 2876 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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ASCI Blue wrote: | With no intent to flame I must state that the Radeon VE was not designed as a gaming card, it was designed iirc to have multi-monitor support. |
Correct. However, same card on same computer under different operating system gave a huge speed difference. _________________ I don't believe in witty sigs. |
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