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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: Why do searches for gentoo come up with Ubuntu page hits Reply with quote

/rant on
Every freaking search I do for gentoo lands me on an Ubuntu forum page. It's not a coincidence.

WTF.

I think they are buying gentoo [everything] keyword phrases on google or something.

Bastards...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linux is a Kernel, GNU software and others comprise your user level software, and the Ubuntu distro utilizes the Gentoo framework. Because Ubuntu appeals to so many people you will see a lot more posts when searching for solutions.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a simple solution... Don't use google! :P
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Other Things Gentoo to Gentoo Chat.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: Why do searches for gentoo come up with Ubuntu page hits Reply with quote

rgviza wrote:
Every freaking search I do for gentoo lands me on an Ubuntu forum page. It's not a coincidence.

WTF.

I think they are buying gentoo [everything] keyword phrases on google or something.

Just out of curiousity I ran a few test queries, and well, I can't confirm your observations. But then I've probably not used the exact same keywords as you.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should delete all google cookies, i recognized that if i clicked on same Debian links in the search results, the next search will give me more Debian matches. I don't know what Information Google use at all , may be someone can share more Information about that.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's funny, everytime I search for a guide on how to do something in linux, a gentoo doc/wiki page is among the top hits.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

machspeed2200 wrote:
I have a simple solution... Don't use google! :P
Yes I agree... We should all switch to MSN :lol:

Seriously though, I guess it depends on what you are searching for. When researchign specific Linux issues I usually find most of the hits come from either gentoo or Ubuntu. Can you give an example of a search for gentoo where all the hits are from Ubuntu?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlexanderVDM wrote:
That's funny, everytime I search for a guide on how to do something in linux, a gentoo doc/wiki page is among the top hits.


I have the same experience.

I have never hit an ubuntu page when searching for gentoo stuff.... 8O
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rgviza,

Code:
<search_terms> site:gentoo.org
works for me.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[ToXiC] wrote:
Linux is a Kernel, GNU software and others comprise your user level software, and the Ubuntu distro utilizes the Gentoo framework. Because Ubuntu appeals to so many people you will see a lot more posts when searching for solutions.


Uh, what? I'm pretty damn sure that Ubuntu does *not* use the Gentoo framework -- it's actually a derivative of Debian (hence why it has apt-get, but not portage). Wikipedia agrees with me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sageman wrote:
[ToXiC] wrote:
Linux is a Kernel, GNU software and others comprise your user level software, and the Ubuntu distro utilizes the Gentoo framework. Because Ubuntu appeals to so many people you will see a lot more posts when searching for solutions.


Uh, what? I'm pretty damn sure that Ubuntu does *not* use the Gentoo framework -- it's actually a derivative of Debian (hence why it has apt-get, but not portage). Wikipedia agrees with me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29
I totaly missed that before. Yeah, Gentoo is a core distro. By that I mean that it was created from scratch, not built off another distro. There may be other core distro's but the one's I am aware of are (in no particular order) Debian, Slackware, Redhat, and Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

machspeed2200 wrote:
I have a simple solution... Don't use google! :P


phail 8O

Well, a search for gentoo on the Ubuntu forums shows 168 threads.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've come across this a lot, if I type something something help something gentoo a few ubuntu pages will come up.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dahranis wrote:
I've come across this a lot, if I type something something help something gentoo a few ubuntu pages will come up.

One thing to note is that the order of keywords in a Google search is very important, e.g. the first keyword is more relevant than the second, and so on. So using "Gentoo" as the first keyword rather than the last will almost certainly give you more Gentoo related results.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikegpitt wrote:
sageman wrote:
[ToXiC] wrote:
Linux is a Kernel, GNU software and others comprise your user level software, and the Ubuntu distro utilizes the Gentoo framework. Because Ubuntu appeals to so many people you will see a lot more posts when searching for solutions.


Uh, what? I'm pretty damn sure that Ubuntu does *not* use the Gentoo framework -- it's actually a derivative of Debian (hence why it has apt-get, but not portage). Wikipedia agrees with me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29
I totaly missed that before. Yeah, Gentoo is a core distro. By that I mean that it was created from scratch, not built off another distro. There may be other core distro's but the one's I am aware of are (in no particular order) Debian, Slackware, Redhat, and Gentoo.


Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one finding this glaring error!

I think it'd be fair to call Yoper a core distro in addition to Debian, Slackware (oldest surviving), Redhat and Gentoo. Yoper isn't really directly based off any of these guys, but does use Knoppix hardware detection tools (Knoppix being a descendant of Debian). CRUX is also a notable core distro because of it's direct descendant, Arch Linux (at least, notable in my book). Of course, Linux From Scratch is in an entirely different realm. I think, of all the core distros, Debian has the most descendants today, although Red Hat has quite a few.

Here's the timeline: http://futurist.se/gldt/gldt76.png
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