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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: qx6800 temperature Reply with quote

hello,
i have a qx6800 cpu ( quad core extreme )
temperature monitor gives me this values then machine is idle

Code:
 cris@lordcris ~ $ sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0:      +74°C  (high =  +100°C)                   

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 1:      +72°C  (high =  +100°C)                   

coretemp-isa-0002
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 2:      +69°C  (high =  +100°C)                   

coretemp-isa-0003
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 3:      +70°C  (high =  +100°C)


when cpu is under load temp goes as high as +92°C.
is this normal?!
shouldn't it be like around 50°C.
the maximum temperature for this cpu should be 64.5°C
i don't have stability problems.

why i get this readings?
are they correct?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coretemp does not measure temerature. What you get is "a number of something to trottling activation". This "something" depends of a temperature, but this dependancy is not guaranteed to be linear and is NOT calibrated to represent actual temperature in degrees centigrade. The only actual thing, which you can be certain of, is that your CPU is not being throttled while coretemp value is greater than zero.

If you still want to use coretemp, maximum for qx6800 is believed to be 80C, not 100C kernel reports. Your 74C (26 units of something to TM2 activation) is actualy 54C.

Maximum temp of 64C is measured in the middle point of the heatspreader, which has no connection to coretemp "degrees".
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dairinin wrote:
Coretemp does not measure temerature. What you get is "a number of something to trottling activation". This "something" depends of a temperature, but this dependancy is not guaranteed to be linear and is NOT calibrated to represent actual temperature in degrees centigrade. The only actual thing, which you can be certain of, is that your CPU is not being throttled while coretemp value is greater than zero.

If you still want to use coretemp, maximum for qx6800 is believed to be 80C, not 100C kernel reports. Your 74C (26 units of something to TM2 activation) is actualy 54C.

Maximum temp of 64C is measured in the middle point of the heatspreader, which has no connection to coretemp "degrees".


tnx Dairinin,

is there any way to mesure the cpu temperature?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lordcris wrote:
Dairinin wrote:
Coretemp does not measure temerature. What you get is "a number of something to trottling activation". This "something" depends of a temperature, but this dependancy is not guaranteed to be linear and is NOT calibrated to represent actual temperature in degrees centigrade. The only actual thing, which you can be certain of, is that your CPU is not being throttled while coretemp value is greater than zero.

If you still want to use coretemp, maximum for qx6800 is believed to be 80C, not 100C kernel reports. Your 74C (26 units of something to TM2 activation) is actualy 54C.

Maximum temp of 64C is measured in the middle point of the heatspreader, which has no connection to coretemp "degrees".


tnx Dairinin,

is there any way to mesure the cpu temperature?
thermometer and some coding experience? :P

I get similar strange values from k8temp... it's annoying.

Look to see if you have a ACPI THRM value - this usually corresponds to cpu temp. Also, if you have other sensors, one might be what you want.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dairinin wrote:
Coretemp does not measure temerature. What you get is "a number of something to trottling activation". This "something" depends of a temperature, but this dependancy is not guaranteed to be linear and is NOT calibrated to represent actual temperature in degrees centigrade. The only actual thing, which you can be certain of, is that your CPU is not being throttled while coretemp value is greater than zero.

If you still want to use coretemp, maximum for qx6800 is believed to be 80C, not 100C kernel reports. Your 74C (26 units of something to TM2 activation) is actualy 54C.

Maximum temp of 64C is measured in the middle point of the heatspreader, which has no connection to coretemp "degrees".


in that case, how one can monitor cpu? sensors-detect on my computer returns a unknown device and coretemp...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaggyStyle wrote:
in that case, how one can monitor cpu? sensors-detect on my computer returns a unknown device and coretemp...
do you have an ACPI THRM?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poly_poly-man wrote:
DaggyStyle wrote:
in that case, how one can monitor cpu? sensors-detect on my computer returns a unknown device and coretemp...
do you have an ACPI THRM?

yes but it shows only on temp reading (8 degrees above coretemp)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is almost always another monitoring device on th MB, like winbond 83627 and Co, their drivers can be found under "Hardware monitoring support" section in menuconfig.
On pentium4 and above there is one more sensor, a thermal diode, which is located somewhere on the chip. It IS calibrated so it shows real temperature.
Of course, there's always the right way to do things ;)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the heatsink feel warm?

If it's really 74C die temp, and the heatsink is properly attached, it should feel quite warm. If your heatsink is still cold to touch, likely the measurement is wrong or heatsink not attached properly.

When you first boot the computer when the machine is cold, is it that high?

My Q6600 reports low 50s with coretemp when idle for all 4 cores, and 40C with the thermal diode (measured with the onboard it8718 hardware monitor chip). This is with the stock Intel heatsink that came with the processor.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was able to get the reading from the other sensors on the motherboard following this thread ( i have a asus p5q mb )

http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=871001

now i get

Code:
lordcris ~ # sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0:      +77°C  (high =  +100°C)                   

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 1:      +75°C  (high =  +100°C)                   

coretemp-isa-0002
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 2:      +73°C  (high =  +100°C)                   

coretemp-isa-0003
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 3:      +75°C  (high =  +100°C)                   

w83627ehf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore:     +1.17 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +1.74 V)
in1:      +11.35 V  (min =  +0.90 V, max =  +0.05 V) ALARM
AVCC:      +3.38 V  (min =  +1.54 V, max =  +2.05 V) ALARM
3VCC:      +3.34 V  (min =  +2.69 V, max =  +1.65 V) ALARM
in4:       +1.71 V  (min =  +0.18 V, max =  +0.26 V) ALARM
in5:       +2.04 V  (min =  +0.54 V, max =  +1.94 V) ALARM
in6:       +5.89 V  (min =  +2.05 V, max =  +0.87 V) ALARM
VSB:       +3.42 V  (min =  +0.02 V, max =  +0.06 V) ALARM
VBAT:      +3.33 V  (min =  +2.18 V, max =  +0.29 V) ALARM
in9:       +0.00 V  (min =  +0.58 V, max =  +1.06 V) ALARM
Case Fan:    0 RPM  (min = 5273 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
CPU Fan:  2280 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, div = 16) ALARM
Aux Fan:     0 RPM  (min = 5273 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
fan4:        0 RPM  (min = 1171 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
fan5:        0 RPM  (min = 10546 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
Sys Temp:    +50°C  (high =   +16°C, hyst =    +0°C)  [thermistor] ALARM
CPU Temp:  +58.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)  [CPU diode ]
AUX Temp:  -17.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)  [thermistor]
vid:      +1.219 V


which is more useful
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