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lordcris Apprentice
Joined: 09 Jul 2002 Posts: 248
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:53 am Post subject: qx6800 temperature |
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hello,
i have a qx6800 cpu ( quad core extreme )
temperature monitor gives me this values then machine is idle
Code: | cris@lordcris ~ $ sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +74°C (high = +100°C)
coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 1: +72°C (high = +100°C)
coretemp-isa-0002
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 2: +69°C (high = +100°C)
coretemp-isa-0003
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 3: +70°C (high = +100°C) |
when cpu is under load temp goes as high as +92°C.
is this normal?!
shouldn't it be like around 50°C.
the maximum temperature for this cpu should be 64.5°C
i don't have stability problems.
why i get this readings?
are they correct? |
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Dairinin n00b
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 64 Location: MSK, RF
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Coretemp does not measure temerature. What you get is "a number of something to trottling activation". This "something" depends of a temperature, but this dependancy is not guaranteed to be linear and is NOT calibrated to represent actual temperature in degrees centigrade. The only actual thing, which you can be certain of, is that your CPU is not being throttled while coretemp value is greater than zero.
If you still want to use coretemp, maximum for qx6800 is believed to be 80C, not 100C kernel reports. Your 74C (26 units of something to TM2 activation) is actualy 54C.
Maximum temp of 64C is measured in the middle point of the heatspreader, which has no connection to coretemp "degrees". |
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lordcris Apprentice
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Dairinin wrote: | Coretemp does not measure temerature. What you get is "a number of something to trottling activation". This "something" depends of a temperature, but this dependancy is not guaranteed to be linear and is NOT calibrated to represent actual temperature in degrees centigrade. The only actual thing, which you can be certain of, is that your CPU is not being throttled while coretemp value is greater than zero.
If you still want to use coretemp, maximum for qx6800 is believed to be 80C, not 100C kernel reports. Your 74C (26 units of something to TM2 activation) is actualy 54C.
Maximum temp of 64C is measured in the middle point of the heatspreader, which has no connection to coretemp "degrees". |
tnx Dairinin,
is there any way to mesure the cpu temperature? |
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poly_poly-man Advocate
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 2477 Location: RIT, NY, US
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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lordcris wrote: | Dairinin wrote: | Coretemp does not measure temerature. What you get is "a number of something to trottling activation". This "something" depends of a temperature, but this dependancy is not guaranteed to be linear and is NOT calibrated to represent actual temperature in degrees centigrade. The only actual thing, which you can be certain of, is that your CPU is not being throttled while coretemp value is greater than zero.
If you still want to use coretemp, maximum for qx6800 is believed to be 80C, not 100C kernel reports. Your 74C (26 units of something to TM2 activation) is actualy 54C.
Maximum temp of 64C is measured in the middle point of the heatspreader, which has no connection to coretemp "degrees". |
tnx Dairinin,
is there any way to mesure the cpu temperature? | thermometer and some coding experience?
I get similar strange values from k8temp... it's annoying.
Look to see if you have a ACPI THRM value - this usually corresponds to cpu temp. Also, if you have other sensors, one might be what you want. _________________ iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAA
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DaggyStyle Watchman
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5941
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Dairinin wrote: | Coretemp does not measure temerature. What you get is "a number of something to trottling activation". This "something" depends of a temperature, but this dependancy is not guaranteed to be linear and is NOT calibrated to represent actual temperature in degrees centigrade. The only actual thing, which you can be certain of, is that your CPU is not being throttled while coretemp value is greater than zero.
If you still want to use coretemp, maximum for qx6800 is believed to be 80C, not 100C kernel reports. Your 74C (26 units of something to TM2 activation) is actualy 54C.
Maximum temp of 64C is measured in the middle point of the heatspreader, which has no connection to coretemp "degrees". |
in that case, how one can monitor cpu? sensors-detect on my computer returns a unknown device and coretemp... _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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poly_poly-man Advocate
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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DaggyStyle wrote: | in that case, how one can monitor cpu? sensors-detect on my computer returns a unknown device and coretemp... | do you have an ACPI THRM? _________________ iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAA
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DaggyStyle Watchman
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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poly_poly-man wrote: | DaggyStyle wrote: | in that case, how one can monitor cpu? sensors-detect on my computer returns a unknown device and coretemp... | do you have an ACPI THRM? |
yes but it shows only on temp reading (8 degrees above coretemp) _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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Dairinin n00b
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 64 Location: MSK, RF
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: |
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There is almost always another monitoring device on th MB, like winbond 83627 and Co, their drivers can be found under "Hardware monitoring support" section in menuconfig.
On pentium4 and above there is one more sensor, a thermal diode, which is located somewhere on the chip. It IS calibrated so it shows real temperature.
Of course, there's always the right way to do things |
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eccerr0r Watchman
Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 9883 Location: almost Mile High in the USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Does the heatsink feel warm?
If it's really 74C die temp, and the heatsink is properly attached, it should feel quite warm. If your heatsink is still cold to touch, likely the measurement is wrong or heatsink not attached properly.
When you first boot the computer when the machine is cold, is it that high?
My Q6600 reports low 50s with coretemp when idle for all 4 cores, and 40C with the thermal diode (measured with the onboard it8718 hardware monitor chip). This is with the stock Intel heatsink that came with the processor. _________________ Intel Core i7 2700K/Radeon R7 250/24GB DDR3/256GB SSD
What am I supposed watching? |
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lordcris Apprentice
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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i was able to get the reading from the other sensors on the motherboard following this thread ( i have a asus p5q mb )
http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=871001
now i get
Code: | lordcris ~ # sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +77°C (high = +100°C)
coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 1: +75°C (high = +100°C)
coretemp-isa-0002
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 2: +73°C (high = +100°C)
coretemp-isa-0003
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 3: +75°C (high = +100°C)
w83627ehf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore: +1.17 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +1.74 V)
in1: +11.35 V (min = +0.90 V, max = +0.05 V) ALARM
AVCC: +3.38 V (min = +1.54 V, max = +2.05 V) ALARM
3VCC: +3.34 V (min = +2.69 V, max = +1.65 V) ALARM
in4: +1.71 V (min = +0.18 V, max = +0.26 V) ALARM
in5: +2.04 V (min = +0.54 V, max = +1.94 V) ALARM
in6: +5.89 V (min = +2.05 V, max = +0.87 V) ALARM
VSB: +3.42 V (min = +0.02 V, max = +0.06 V) ALARM
VBAT: +3.33 V (min = +2.18 V, max = +0.29 V) ALARM
in9: +0.00 V (min = +0.58 V, max = +1.06 V) ALARM
Case Fan: 0 RPM (min = 5273 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
CPU Fan: 2280 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 16) ALARM
Aux Fan: 0 RPM (min = 5273 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
fan4: 0 RPM (min = 1171 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
fan5: 0 RPM (min = 10546 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
Sys Temp: +50°C (high = +16°C, hyst = +0°C) [thermistor] ALARM
CPU Temp: +58.0°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) [CPU diode ]
AUX Temp: -17.0°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) [thermistor]
vid: +1.219 V |
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