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DNH n00b
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 60 Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 12:50 am Post subject: what are people using for a firewall? |
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I was wondering what people use for a firewall and if they emerged a package to get it. I am debating just creating an iptables script, but thought I'd see if anybody is using a firewall program and whether or not they would recommend it. Thanks. _________________ The answer |
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garyura n00b
Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Iptables is enuff for the firewall if U want to connect to internet and safe from hacker |
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klieber Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 3657 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 1:07 am Post subject: Re: what are people using for a firewall? |
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DNH wrote: | I am debating just creating an iptables script, but thought I'd see if anybody is using a firewall program and whether or not they would recommend it. Thanks. |
If you're comfortable with iptables syntax, just write your own -- it's likely the easiest way. Otherwise, check out fwbuilder, which is a great GTK-based GUI helper program to write iptables scripts. Not sure if there's a gentoo package, though.
--kurt _________________ The problem with political jokes is that they get elected |
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 3:22 am Post subject: |
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http://monmotha.mplug.org/firewall/index.php <-- Monmotha's firewall script, fairly good
Another good one to break your teeth on is "Endoshield" you can find with a google search, I use a (heavily) modified version of it. |
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gilgames n00b
Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 12 Location: Edam - The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: what are people using for a firewall? |
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DNH wrote: | I was wondering what people use for a firewall and if they emerged a package to get it. |
I picked up ferm which is nothing more than a easy (= readable) way of specifying iptables statements. I wrote my own ebuild file but it's not quite finished. Best of all, it doesn't need/have a GUI(which would make it impossible to run on my P100)
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static Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 141 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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If you like GUI's guarddog for KDE is excellent _________________ Gentoo and Doom III. 'Nuff Said.
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:59 am Post subject: e: what are people using for a firewall? |
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I wrote an iptables script using connection tracking, from my tests and from other users this script seams to work pretty good. You can download it from here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~skylinux/linux/skyfire/
I would appreciate some feedback if someone decides to use my script.
Stay save
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kipper Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 20 Apr 2002 Posts: 112
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dice Guru
Joined: 21 Apr 2002 Posts: 577
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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I use an OpenBSD bridging firewall. It's very cool |
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dr_strange Guru
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 480 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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firestarter is a nice firewall, lets you close and open individual ports, monitor your ports etcetera |
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bbibber n00b
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 16 Location: Mechelen - Belgium
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:44 pm Post subject: TrinityOS |
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the TrinityOS documents provide a good background if you want to secure your system. It' s aimed for redhat systems though |
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d3c3it l33t
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 765 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:33 pm Post subject: Iptables personal firewall |
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Hi all
ive been trying for ages to get iptables working but i could never get my kernel config to work. Well after extensive searching on google and these forums ive finally got iptables working. To start with i tired kmyfirewall to setup a firewall, which worked great, it really locked down my system but there was somethings i didnt like *the kde stuff for 1, as i dont use kde and the kde config on my system is messed up so the program didnt work quite right* and also i couldnt use msn nor rsync but then i tired out firestarter. Found to be very good. Couldnt get the log viewer working till i found this
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=76874 which stopped the error messages but still no logs. The firewall using the grc tests almost locks down my system but apart from port 57-56 which i couldnt get to lock down. But also my main problem with it is it doesnt save any /var/lib/iptables/rules-save and when i run /etc/init.d/iptables save i get a cat: no file.... and iptables -L doesnt show any rules. But there is rules as the grc test shows the ports being blocked.
Now i would setup my own rule set but i dont know where to start. Ive read up on google but it seems alot of work for a personal firewall. A server i understand but for just a personal aspect is there any easier way around it? Maybe someone has created a prebuilt script as such for a workstation ?
any help would greatly be appreated *i know its long winded but basically i want a firewall to keep nasty stuff out and keep all my ports stealth on a workstation*
thanks alot _________________ Some people go to counselling,
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Keyed Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 26 Jul 2002 Posts: 135 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Have you read the Gentoo Security guide yet?
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-security.xml
also you could look at
http://www.openna.com/products/books/sol/solus.php
I use a tweaked version of what is shown in their pdf. _________________ Windows is not a virus: Viruses are well supported by their authors, are running on most systems, their program code is fast, compact and efficient and they tend to become more sophisticated as they mature. |
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d3c3it l33t
Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 765 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks man, i never knew gentoo had a security page _________________ Some people go to counselling,
others use linux |
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Xaignar Apprentice
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 153 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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If you just want a firewall for a workstation, then either Shorewall or FireHOL is my recommendation. Both are in portage, are easy to use and make use of bash scripts to perform their magic, so there is no need for X. |
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voltron2k4 n00b
Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 6:47 am Post subject: Firewall |
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Ok, so after looking in /usr/portage/net-firewall/ I see that there are many different firewalls. My question to the gentoo public is... Which do you feel is the best and why? Also is there a firewall that has gui? And also is there a good "example config" that I can go by?
* Any help is more than appreciated * _________________ Windows XP Uptime: 3 mins 12 secs
Illegal Operation: Must Reboot or Shutdown |
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idefix n00b
Joined: 15 Mar 2003 Posts: 23
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:01 am Post subject: Have you tried shorewall? |
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There is no gui available, but configuration is straight forward. Short documentation is available in the config files itself, otherwise have a look at the developers homepage [url]http://www.shorewall.net/[/url] |
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barbar Guru
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 397 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:26 am Post subject: |
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knetfilter is a gui for iptables. if you are using kde it can be handy configuring iptables. |
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sschlueter Guru
Joined: 26 Jul 2002 Posts: 578 Location: Dortmund, Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 4:45 am Post subject: Re: Firewall |
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voltron2k4 wrote: | Ok, so after looking in /usr/portage/net-firewall/ I see that there are many different firewalls. My question to the gentoo public is... Which do you feel is the best and why? Also is there a firewall that has gui? |
If you think of packet filtering and network address translation, then there are no "different firewalls". It's practically always netfilter/iptables that does the work. But there are several helper applications. While I currently don't use any of them, I think they range from simple GUIs to tools like FireHOL where rules can be expressed via a heavily simplified syntax to tools that represent a higher abstraction layer like fwbuilder or shorewall. |
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sschlueter Guru
Joined: 26 Jul 2002 Posts: 578 Location: Dortmund, Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 4:47 am Post subject: Re: Have you tried shorewall? |
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idefix wrote: | There is no gui available
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There is a webmin module available. |
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don quixada l33t
Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 810
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 7:10 pm Post subject: afraid to install a firewall |
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Hi, it seems the general consensus about firewalls is that ``a poorly configured firewall is worse than no firewall at all''. Therefore, I'm afraid to install any kind of firewall. However, I do like the idea of being able to close/open ports easily.
My system is my own personal machine so there are no other users I need to administrate, so I'd only be protecting my computer from ouside attacks. I've tried to keep everything network-related secure (from faqs etc.) and I've tested my ip from outside resoures (abuse.net etc.).
However, what I'm wondering is: am I being naive? Should I install a firewall? and how would I know that it will be properly configured?
Thanks in advance.
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neilhwatson l33t
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 719 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Would you have unprotected sex with a stranger?! You definitely need a firewall. As for testing a firewall there are website that will scan your firewall for you. _________________ The true guru is a teacher.
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don quixada l33t
Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 810
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I'll install one. Any suggestions?-- if not, I'll install iptables.
There are websites that test firewalls? What are they? The only ones I know of are:
http://grc.com/intro.htm
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http://www.abuse.net/
Or are these all I need?
Thanks,
dq |
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neilhwatson l33t
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 719 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Iptables is the engine that drives your firewall. How to configure your firewall is up to you. I do it by hand which may not be for you. If you search around here you'll see some suggestions on what applications might be right for you.
Yes, those sites are fine for testing your firewall
However you do it remember the golden rule of firewalls. ALWAYS DENY EVERYTHING BY DEFAULT, then configure the firewall to allow the network traffic you need. _________________ The true guru is a teacher.
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mmealman Guru
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 348 Location: Florida
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