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How alive/dead is Gentoo for you? (Only vote, if you use Gentoo for at least one year.) |
Even better than ever |
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Hasn’t changed much |
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Could be better |
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In bad shape, there’s not much left |
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Yamakuzure Advocate
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 2287 Location: Adendorf, Germany
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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This thread'll never die, I bet... _________________ Edited 220,176 times by Yamakuzure |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54544 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yamakuzure,
Probably not but it will get locked at 30 pages as longer threads make a mess of the forums.
I'm sure someone will start a new one though _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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oscurochu Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 02 Aug 2009 Posts: 89
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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So he was trying to install an antivirus program on linux? How silly. |
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MuckThatGuy n00b
Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Did anyone else notice that his nom de internet (profile included) bares a striking resemblance to a Neal Stephenson character? _________________ Rambo is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing. [Citation Needed] |
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HMC Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 79 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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oscurochu wrote: |
So he was trying to install an antivirus program on linux? How silly. |
Hmmm... Silly? There are many reasons for putting AV on a *nix box. |
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LukynZ Apprentice
Joined: 19 Dec 2008 Posts: 230 Location: The Czech Republic
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: Leaving Gentoo... |
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First I want to say...Gentoo is great. I think it is the best distro for linux. However source-base distro have disadvantage with updates and recompilations. And today it was enought for me. One update of small library and recompilation of 118 packages needed and several fails. No, this is not for me ever more. This is not distro faul, this is about time and compilation stuffs. And I realize, it was enought for me last year and I am moving back to Archlinux. (I think the second best distro). I learnt a lot with Gentoo and I will miss its features. And I want to say thanks to all devs and ppl around this distro. U r doing a good job. |
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gerard27 Advocate
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 2377 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Fare thee well.
You'll be back sooner or later.
Gerard. _________________ To install Gentoo I use sysrescuecd.Based on Gentoo,has firefox to browse Gentoo docs and mc to browse (and edit) files.
The same disk can be used for 32 and 64 bit installs.
You can follow the Handbook verbatim.
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download |
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tgR10 Apprentice
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 262 Location: caly ten ambaras
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OmSai l33t
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 605 Location: Manchester, CT, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:42 am Post subject: |
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LukynZ,
That's why you use the update script to continue compilation and retry failed packages.
I've you haven't already wiped your gentoo box, I'd recommend getting the git version and having a go.
I have the clone under /root/
http://weaver.gentooenterprise.com/trac/update/
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-546828.html _________________ Gentoo is the stick-shift of Linux.
You work it manually, it has somewhat better performance, but it's really for the fun of it. |
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poly_poly-man Advocate
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 2477 Location: RIT, NY, US
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:00 am Post subject: |
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someday even poor folks will have computers that can compile openoffice in 50ms, and then, source distros will make a lot more sense.
However, until then, compiling is hard. _________________ iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAA
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d2_racing Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 13047 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:04 am Post subject: |
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See you soon |
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Quick23t n00b
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 66 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: |
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We've all had our bouts with Gentoo, I can remember times when each weekly sync and update brought about an hours worth of work fixing my OS. It's starting to get to that point again for me, but I'm going to stick with it one last time and see what happens. Having Gentoo's features as far as getting the system I want is a great benefit, allowing me to be a bit more productive. Right up to the point where I spend all of the time I would have saved by using Gentoo working on my Gentoo install.. |
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Ormaaj Guru
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 319
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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poly_poly-man wrote: | someday even poor folks will have computers that can compile openoffice in 50ms, and then, source distros will make a lot more sense.
However, until then, compiling is hard. | Then programs which write themselves will make a lot more sense.
My i7 is so ridiculous that I don't even care about recompiling all of kde. Took like 7 hours on my old P4. We're getting there. |
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platojones Veteran
Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1602 Location: Just over the horizon
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Quick23t wrote: | We've all had our bouts with Gentoo, I can remember times when each weekly sync and update brought about an hours worth of work fixing my OS. It's starting to get to that point again for me, but I'm going to stick with it one last time and see what happens. Having Gentoo's features as far as getting the system I want is a great benefit, allowing me to be a bit more productive. Right up to the point where I spend all of the time I would have saved by using Gentoo working on my Gentoo install.. |
Then you are doing it wrong. Maintaining an up-to-date Gentoo system is much easier than any other distro. |
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poly_poly-man Advocate
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 2477 Location: RIT, NY, US
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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platojones wrote: | Quick23t wrote: | We've all had our bouts with Gentoo, I can remember times when each weekly sync and update brought about an hours worth of work fixing my OS. It's starting to get to that point again for me, but I'm going to stick with it one last time and see what happens. Having Gentoo's features as far as getting the system I want is a great benefit, allowing me to be a bit more productive. Right up to the point where I spend all of the time I would have saved by using Gentoo working on my Gentoo install.. |
Then you are doing it wrong. Maintaining an up-to-date Gentoo system is much easier than any other distro. | it is - the problem is not figuring out the fix, but doing it with the bad compile time. _________________ iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAA
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platojones Veteran
Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1602 Location: Just over the horizon
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:40 am Post subject: |
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poly_poly-man wrote: | it is - the problem is not figuring out the fix, but doing it with the bad compile time. |
I've never understood the compile-time issue myself...it never affects what I am doing at the moment I'm running emerge. I've got a quad-core so that helps...just emerge and 99% it goes perfect...and keep doing what you were doing. People act like Linux is DOS or something...like doing an emerge update shuts down their system for the duration or something. I don't get it. |
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poly_poly-man Advocate
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 2477 Location: RIT, NY, US
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:26 am Post subject: |
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platojones wrote: | poly_poly-man wrote: | it is - the problem is not figuring out the fix, but doing it with the bad compile time. |
I've never understood the compile-time issue myself...it never affects what I am doing at the moment I'm running emerge. I've got a quad-core so that helps...just emerge and 99% it goes perfect...and keep doing what you were doing. People act like Linux is DOS or something...like doing an emerge update shuts down their system for the duration or something. I don't get it. | I'm particularly an advocate of this train of thought.
However, my point still stands - let's say you have circular dep issues or something like that... you have to emerge specific things in a specific order - no problem, except you have to stick around for each compile...
I love letting my major world updates and such run while I'm asleep... but some things you need to fix manually, and thatr's when you see the long compile times come out. _________________ iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAA
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Quick23t n00b
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 66 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:05 am Post subject: |
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platojones wrote: |
Then you are doing it wrong. Maintaining an up-to-date Gentoo system is much easier than any other distro. | We will have to agree to disagree on this point. I've spent 6 years with Gentoo, it is my preferred distro but, I don't feel that it is easier to maintain than any other distro. This may be relative to the machine's role the OS is installed on though. |
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d2_racing Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 13047 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:53 am Post subject: |
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It's easy if you update your box once a week, but if you wait 6 months, then it can be pretty hard actually or long. |
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platojones Veteran
Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1602 Location: Just over the horizon
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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d2_racing wrote: | It's easy if you update your box once a week, but if you wait 6 months, then it can be pretty hard actually or long. |
Yeah, that does make sense...I update daily and rarely run into even minor issues. |
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dE_logics Advocate
Joined: 02 Jan 2009 Posts: 2264 Location: $TERM
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Great...I'm switching 'to' Gentoo.
After 6 months of Linux. |
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poly_poly-man Advocate
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 2477 Location: RIT, NY, US
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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d2_racing wrote: | It's easy if you update your box once a week, but if you wait 6 months, then it can be pretty hard actually or long. | even doing it daily, you'll hit issues (mostly on unstable boxes like mine, but...) _________________ iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAA
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beandog Bodhisattva
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 2072 Location: /usa/utah
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Leaving Gentoo... |
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LukynZ wrote: | One update of small library and recompilation of 118 packages needed and several fails. |
This may be a stupid question, I dunno, but ....... have you ever considered *not* upgrading the library?
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to leave things alone now unless I really, really, really need to touch them. _________________ If it ain't broke, tweak it. dvds | blurays | blog | wiki |
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sera Retired Dev
Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 1017 Location: CET
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Leaving Gentoo... |
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beandog wrote: | LukynZ wrote: | One update of small library and recompilation of 118 packages needed and several fails. |
This may be a stupid question, I dunno, but ....... have you ever considered *not* upgrading the library?
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to leave things alone now unless I really, really, really need to touch them. |
How does that match your sig? |
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poly_poly-man Advocate
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 2477 Location: RIT, NY, US
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: Leaving Gentoo... |
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beandog wrote: | LukynZ wrote: | One update of small library and recompilation of 118 packages needed and several fails. |
This may be a stupid question, I dunno, but ....... have you ever considered *not* upgrading the library?
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to leave things alone now unless I really, really, really need to touch them. | hehe... that's funny when it's right next to your sig _________________ iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAA
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