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sping Developer
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 25 Location: Germany, Berlin
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: Gentoo machine setup statistics: Public beta test launched |
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Hello!
Under the umbrella of Google Summer of Code 2009 a tool to collect data on Gentoo machine setups has been developed to be able to better prioritize development efforts in Gentoo.
The data collected ranges from details about installed packages to compile flags to the selection of mirrors. What data is submitted can be configured freely to match your needs of privacy.
With the collected data Gentoo will be able to better answer all sorts of questions including:
- Which non-system packages deserve extra attention?
- What common setup mistakes do people make?
- How well is the usage of mirrors balanced?
You can check out the test instance by following these steps:
Code: | sudo layman -a sping
sudo autounmask =app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999
sudo emerge -av =app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999
smoltSendProfile --server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/ |
After an hour your data will be included in the report:
More documentation (especially on control over privacy) can be found here:
I hope you have a few minutes to participate.
Thanks for your time and interest!
Sebastian
Unstuck. -- desultory
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kallamej Administrator
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 4975 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Moved from Other Things Gentoo to Gentoo Chat and made sticky. Old stats sticky here. _________________ Please read our FAQ Forum, it answers many of your questions.
irc: #gentoo-forums on irc.libera.chat |
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Letharion Veteran
Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 1344 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Is the intention to introduce smolt to the official tree anytime "soon", like, <1 month?
If so, I'll hold for that. Overlays are a great tool, but I prefer not to need keeping track of several of them. |
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V-Li Retired Dev
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Smolt is already available, the Gentoo branch is experimental still and will be merged into the Smolt mainline sometime soon. So this is for testing only, a widespread "official" usage will be announced through other channels. |
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TheAbu Apprentice
Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Posts: 160 Location: Lyon, France
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Very interesting statistics.
A question now, I run funtoo ~amd64. Can I still install the tools or would you prefer not ? (not meant to start a polemic here btw Just asking because I don't know if you would prefer it to be 100% pure Gentoo or if something so heavily based on Gentoo as Funtoo can be of interest for you ) _________________ "Please, forgive my bad English"
Gentoo made me love using my computer again. Thank you to the Gentoo devs and more generally to all the people who makes GNU/Linux possible
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V-Li Retired Dev
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:46 am Post subject: |
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It should be no problem to use it on Funtoo. |
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TheAbu Apprentice
Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Posts: 160 Location: Lyon, France
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for your very fast answer V-Li, then I will install it _________________ "Please, forgive my bad English"
Gentoo made me love using my computer again. Thank you to the Gentoo devs and more generally to all the people who makes GNU/Linux possible |
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sping Developer
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 25 Location: Germany, Berlin
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energyman76b Advocate
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2048 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:46 am Post subject: |
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when I try smoltSendProfile --server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678 I get:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 500: Internal error _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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platojones Veteran
Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 1602 Location: Just over the horizon
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Missed this earlier...I'm on board. I participated in the original gentoo statistics system, until it suddenly just went away. Maybe something like that can return...it provides a very interesting look at the trends of the installed base. |
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sping Developer
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 25 Location: Germany, Berlin
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: |
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energyman76b wrote: | when I try smoltSendProfile --server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678 I get:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 500: Internal error |
I had it from time to time, too, no idea yet, why.
Can you give it a second try and see if it's "permanent" for you? |
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energyman76b Advocate
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2048 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: |
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permanent. I tried it - I don't know, a douzend times? I just tried it again. No go. _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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sping Developer
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 25 Location: Germany, Berlin
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:07 am Post subject: |
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energyman76b wrote: | permanent. I tried it - I don't know, a douzend times? I just tried it again. No go. |
Just tried again for me, worked fine.
Are you sure it's gentoo-smolt, not plain smolt? (Does the information submitted contain Gentoo-specific stuff? Can you have a look?)
I'm sping on freenode if you like IRC. |
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energyman76b Advocate
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2048 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:13 am Post subject: |
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eix smolt
* app-admin/smolt
Available versions: (~)1.2 (~)1.4 (~)9999[1] {gtk qt4}
Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/
Description: The Fedora hardware profiler
[I] app-admin/gentoo-smolt [1]
Available versions: (**)9999 {qt4}
Installed versions: 9999(02:00:33 07.10.2009)(qt4)
Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/
Description: The Fedora hardware profiler
[1] "sping" /usr/local/portage/layman/sping
2 Treffer.
I am gone for the next 10-12h so no irc _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
I identify as a dirty penismensch. |
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sping Developer
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 25 Location: Germany, Berlin
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: |
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energyman76b wrote: | eix smolt
* app-admin/smolt
Available versions: (~)1.2 (~)1.4 (~)9999[1] {gtk qt4}
Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/
Description: The Fedora hardware profiler
[I] app-admin/gentoo-smolt [1]
Available versions: (**)9999 {qt4}
Installed versions: 9999(02:00:33 07.10.2009)(qt4)
Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/
Description: The Fedora hardware profiler
[1] "sping" /usr/local/portage/layman/sping
2 Treffer. |
I see, that looks alright.
energyman76b wrote: | I am gone for the next 10-12h so no irc |
Maybe we can meet in IRC later and have you submit again while I monitor the log files live? |
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Etal Veteran
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 1931
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:06 am Post subject: |
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I can't get it to install...
Code: | >>> Emerging (1 of 1) app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999 from sping
* checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ]
* checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ]
* checking miscfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ]
* CPV: app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999
* REPO: sping
* USE: elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU x86
>>> Unpacking source...
* GIT NEW clone -->
* repository: git://git.goodpoint.de/smolt-gentoo.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt/.git/
remote: Counting objects: 7823, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (3904/3904), done.
remote: Total 7823 (delta 5566), reused 5037 (delta 3496)
Receiving objects: 100% (7823/7823), 2.32 MiB | 467 KiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (5566/5566), done.
warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
* at the commit: 15b6ee4bef32e8f06c98b76adab4fec3f4eb6d2d
* branch: gentoo
* storage directory: "/usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt"
Initialized empty Git repository in /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999/.git/
warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches.
Did you intend to checkout 'origin/gentoo' which can not be resolved as commit?
>>> Unpacked to /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999
>>> Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work
>>> Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999 ...
>>> Source compiled.
>>> Test phase [not enabled]: app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999
>>> Install gentoo-smolt-9999 into /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/image/ category app-admin
/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/environment: line 3478: cd: /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999/client: No such file or directory
make -j3 install DESTDIR=/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/image/
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
* ERROR: app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999 failed:
* Install failed |
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sping Developer
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 25 Location: Germany, Berlin
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:06 am Post subject: |
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thanks for reporting. i hopefully fixed the problem in the ebuild now.
please re-sync (sudo layman -s sping) and try again. if it still doesn't work after, please let me know. |
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ppurka Advocate
Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Failed here. It is almost 2 hours since you have posted the above message. Should it take this long for your update to be captured by layman? Here is what git log gives: Code: | ...ocal/portage/layman/sping> git log | head
commit 31da319f53788d96a9a54906b8a5239ec5dbf299
Author: Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org>
Date: Tue Jan 5 04:03:18 2010 +0100
app-admin/gentoo-smolt: Workaround no-master-branch issue
commit 1727b1d536c00454502ff0e5e11293c502c9057c
Author: Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org>
Date: Tue Jan 5 02:44:05 2010 +0100
| I guess the error I am getting is essentially the same one: Code: | ...ocal/portage/layman/sping> cat /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/build.log
>>> cfg-update-1.8.2-r1: Creating checksum index...
* CPV: app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999
* REPO: sping
* USE: amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib qt4 userland_GNU
sandbox:main signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...
* GIT NEW clone -->
* repository: git://git.goodpoint.de/smolt-gentoo.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /opt/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt/.git/
remote: Counting objects: 7823, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (3904/3904), done.
remote: Total 7823 (delta 5566), reused 5037 (delta 3496)
Receiving objects: 100% (7823/7823), 2.32 MiB | 564 KiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (5566/5566), done.
warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
* at the commit: 15b6ee4bef32e8f06c98b76adab4fec3f4eb6d2d
* branch: gentoo
* storage directory: "/opt/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt"
Initialized empty Git repository in /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999/.git/
warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches.
Did you intend to checkout 'origin/gentoo' which can not be resolved as commit?
>>> Unpacked to /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999
sandbox:main signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...
sandbox:main signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...
sandbox:main signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...
/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/environment: line 3508: cd: /var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999/client: No such file or directory
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
* ERROR: app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999 failed:
* Install failed
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 48: Called src_install
* environment, line 3509: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake install DESTDIR="${D}" || die "Install failed";
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* If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info =app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999',
* the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv =app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999'.
* This ebuild is from an overlay named 'sping': '/usr/local/portage/layman/sping/'
* The complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/temp/environment'.
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/app-admin/gentoo-smolt-9999/work/gentoo-smolt-9999'
sandbox:main signal SIGQUIT already had a handler ...
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_________________ emerge --quiet redefined | E17 vids: I, II | Now using kde5 | e is unstable :-/
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sping Developer
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 25 Location: Germany, Berlin
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:53 am Post subject: |
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What error do you get from portage - same again?
If so could you do
Code: | sudo rm -Rf /usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt |
and try again? |
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ppurka Advocate
Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:54 am Post subject: |
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sping wrote: | What error do you get from portage - same again?
If so could you do
Code: | sudo rm -Rf /usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt |
and try again? | This was a fresh checkout. I just checked out using layman -a sping.
EDIT: Is this what the directory structure should look like? Code: | ...ocal/portage/layman/sping> l -a /opt/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt
total 12K
4.0K ./ 4.0K ../ 4.0K .git/
...ocal/portage/layman/sping> l -a /opt/distfiles/git-src/gentoo-smolt/.git
total 40K
4.0K ./ 4.0K HEAD 4.0K description 4.0K info/ 4.0K packed-refs
4.0K ../ 4.0K config 4.0K hooks/ 4.0K objects/ 4.0K refs/
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_________________ emerge --quiet redefined | E17 vids: I, II | Now using kde5 | e is unstable :-/ |
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sping Developer
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 25 Location: Germany, Berlin
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:00 am Post subject: |
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Please show me the output of
Code: | fgrep '$Header' /usr/portage/eclass/git.eclass | .
Do is it differ from
Quote: | # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/git.eclass,v 1.33 2009/12/29 17:18:16 scarabeus Exp $
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ppurka Advocate
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:08 am Post subject: |
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It is the same: Code: | ...ocal/portage/layman/sping> fgrep '$Header' /usr/portage/eclass/git.eclass
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/git.eclass,v 1.33 2009/12/29 17:18:16 scarabeus Exp $
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EDIT: Are you on some irc channel. It will be quicker to sort this thing out on irc. _________________ emerge --quiet redefined | E17 vids: I, II | Now using kde5 | e is unstable :-/ |
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sping Developer
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 25 Location: Germany, Berlin
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: |
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For the log: we met on IRC and after manually fixing .git/HEAD to
Code: | ref: refs/heads/gentoo |
on the remote repo things seem to work fine. |
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cach0rr0 Bodhisattva
Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Posts: 4123 Location: Houston, Republic of Texas
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, still getting the
Code: |
smoltSendProfile --server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/
<...snipped...>
Your choice (s)end (v)iew (q)uit: s
Error contacting Server: HTTP Error 500: Internal error
Could not send - Exiting
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I'll retry a few more times before I go to bed. Coming from 98.198.198.151 if it helps you track it down in the logs (6:30AM here, soon to bed, dunno if ill be up long enough to suss it out on IRC or whatnot - I could do so tomorrow)
I did have another question though regarding submissions from users with multiple Gentoo systems.
If I have a half dozen Gentoo machines, would you be interested in one from each?
Or would one submission per user be more useful data for you? |
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Etal Veteran
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Everything worked for me |
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