X.org Lockups (part III)

rickj · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:23 am Post subject:

I upgraded to xorg 1.6 today - perhaps i should have left it 'till later...

I followed the upgrade guides, but on attempting to restart X the machine locks, with a black screen and no cursor, and responds to nothing, not even the power button. This doesn't seem to leave much to diagnose. Anyone have any idea how to proceed?

Xorg.0.log contains 5 lines of garbage - nothing readable

waynedpj · n00b Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 21

i am having the same issue after a xorg 1.6 upgrade with xcb upgraded as well. followed both guides, rebuilt all drivers. running out of options. did you ever find a solution?

peace

rickj · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject:

Not yet.

My current status is that, after changes to xorg.conf and kernel configuration, and a lot of rebuilding, I can get KDE to come up, but it locks after anything from seconds to a few minutes. The mouse pointer moves about the screen, but nothing else, including the power button, evokes any response. I get out of it by pulling the power cord. This is safer if you have a journalling filesystem - I use ext3.

Oddly, If I comment out the XSESSION variable in /etc/rc.conf, and then run "startx", FVWM comes up perfectly and stays up. I'm using hal, dbus and evdev for input devices, and this is trickier than it was under xorg 1.5.3

You can track the changes that have worked for me and others, and some that don't, in this forum.

A bit of searching on the web has revealed that many others have this issue, under a wide range of kernels, at least for the intel, nvidia, and ATI video cards. Some have found relief in changing drivers and kernel configuration, but for others, like myself, nothing seems to work.

The author of the upgrade guide, Remi Cardona, has asked me to submit a bug, it is Xorg 1.6 locks in KDE after seconds to minutes. Perhaps you can add your experiences to it.

rickj · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject:

Now running flawlessly. The key is to use the latest ~arch gentoo-sources kernel 2.6.31-r2 and ~arch xf86-video-intel driver 2.9.0, with no xorg.conf at all.

My thanks to all on the forums who helped, and particularly to Remi Cardona on Bugzilla who found the solution - see the bug, now closed.

Frostwarrior · Apprentice Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 165

That happened since i installed gentoo for the first time. Back there i tried to configure my ati 3200HD onboard. With relative success to open fglrx (glitchy, but it opened like ubuntu or arch did the work), my X keep hanging at start. Even with vesa, radeonhd or fglrx it kept hanging. Now i have an nvidia 7300 PCI-E and X hangs in the same way.

When Xorg opens, i can see the screen (twm or even xfce4) without problem, but the keyboard and mouse doesn't work. I tried to rebuild xorg-server with nvidia-drivers and no ati packages, rebuild xf86-input-* packages with no luck

Any help please?

Here is my lspci:

Frostwarrior · Apprentice Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 165

I didnt read this thread, so i'll put a link to the one I just created:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-797393.html

Mike Hunt · Watchman Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5287

Do you have dbus and hald started?

Frostwarrior · Apprentice Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 165

Yes, i have both dbus and hald started and sent to default runlevel.

My emerge --info:

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:22 am Post subject:

Post the results of lspci -n, lsusb, cat /proc/cpuinfo, and your /etc/fstab file, and I'll make sure your kernel is up to the task.

Blessed be!
Pappy
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Frostwarrior · Apprentice Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 165

I sent the large pastes to pastebin to prevent the thread from
saturating

lspci -n:
http://pastebin.com/m68f88597

lsusb:

Jaglover · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:23 am Post subject:

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pappy_mcfae · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject:

Frostwarrior,

I forgot to have you send me your .config. Duh...it was a long night, and no bud in sight.

Blessed be!
Pappy
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Holysword · l33t Joined: 19 Nov 2006 Posts: 946 Location: Greece

I've tried to update to the new xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r2 and I got a dozen of bugs mostly related to my keyboard and mouse. XDM is able to start a X session but TWM does not; I gave up and downgraded it again.I didn't tried hard though.

Before putting some real effort on it, I would like to know, what are the improvements of this new version? Mostly, I would like to know if, somehow, they fixed that problem with extra mouse buttons; until last version, you could only have up to 5 fully-featured mouse buttons, 2 axis and the 3 common ones, other extra mouse buttons used to have limited features.

Thanks in advance!
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bn · n00b Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Riga, Latvia

Hello, everyone! I am quite lost with trying to get X to work. I had been using gentoo as my main system, but that was a few years ago, so I can basically be considered a newbie. I now decided to move back to gentoo since I couldn't really find a better distribution.

This is my problem: when trying to start X, the screen flashes and the video-card fan, which was running at full speed in console, becomes silent, the screen flashes as if changing resolutions, turns on but stays black (completely black, no mouse or text cursor). ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work, neither does (ctrl)+alt+F1(2/3/..). I am, however, able to return to console login by pressing alt+sysrq+E.
This is on a freshly-installed amd64 system. The system was installed as per online gentoo handbook, followed by Xorg how-to from gentoo desktop documentation, using "Xorg -configure" auto-configured xorg.conf. I did take a look at it and tried changing some settings (namely removing the sections with screen depth less than 16, changing video driver and commenting out dri/glx modules, although Xorg seems to ignore these module settings), but didn't see anything that could, to my knowledge, result in such a behaviour. This result is the same with both nvidia and nv drivers, both with console framebuffer enabled and disabled, and both with manual kernel configuration and "genkernel all" kernel.
The video card is nvidia GeForce 9600 GT on PCI-express bus, connected to a display using DVI output. Gentoo amd64 LiveDVD 10.1 works without any problems without specifying any parameters at boot.
when using the "nv" driver, the last line in Xorg.0.log is this:
(II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 480 x 270
with "nvidia" driver, this:
(II) Initializing extension GLX

I will post the complete logs as soon as I reboot into liveDVD, as I cannot at the moment figure out how to do that in links2 console browser.

Any help is appreciated, and thank you in advance!

edit: here are the config files and logs
xorg.conf with "nv" driver: http://pastebin.com/m6d0b3b08
xorg.0.log with above xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m477a60a2
xorg.conf with "nvidia" driver: http://pastebin.com/m380b7fac
xorg.0.log with "nvidia" xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m1c228346

lspci output:

bn · n00b Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Riga, Latvia

Hello again! Turns out that the problem described in my previous post was not at all what it seemed to be. Turns out that Xorg was working fine, just displaying black screen when run with command "X". I thought that this was supposed to show some kind of pattern. Running startx confirmed that both Xorg and nvidia-drivers is working. And mouse/keyboard weren't working because I hadn't started hald. Didn't realize I had to do it, since neither handbook nor Xorg configuration guide mentioned it.
Well, everything works now, so thanks for anyone reading my problem.
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VinzC · Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject:

Hi guys.

It's been several months now I'm trying to fix various issues with one machine, a Core2 Duo which has an nvidia card (Ge Force 8800GT) xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 and xorg-x11-7.4-r1. I've tried a whole bunch of nvidia-drivers and any version above 173-14* make my machine freeze. I have to hard reset the computer with the reset button. Xorg log file is empty hence I never know what's wrong... No dependencies are broken BTW.

Is there anything I can do to be able to use more recent drivers? Is it worth trying?

The second issue is about UT2004. Some maps do really s***ck hard (even with all settings low) and don't understand at all what's going wrong. The machine *is* powerful enough (P5QL Pro motherboard with a Core2 Duo, E7300 @ 2.6GHz) and the resolution I'm using is not insanely high (i.e. 1680x1050).

Before I bought the nVidia 8800GT I had an nVidia 6600 (GTS IIRC) and the maps that now lag caused no trouble at all, given the machine was even less powerful (AthlonXP 3200+ running @ 1280x1024). So I'd like to check if the drivers are the problem.

Thanks a whole bunch in advance for any hint/suggestion.

EDIT: I've also tested Ubuntu with nvidia drivers version 183; same freeze. I've then tried to continuously sync my hard drive while starting X and here's what I have:

derdestiller · n00b Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Posts: 17

I experienced stability problems, too. Maybe try nvidia-settings -q -a "XVideoTextureSyncToVBlank=1" -a "XVideoBlitterSyncToVBlank=1", that solved the video-overlay related crashes for me.
Anyone ever tried a kernel downgrade to <=2.6.31 to solve stability problems?

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