Automount removable devices without hal

[kingfame_147]

Hi,

as of xorg-server-1.8.0 I removed hal from my system (never liked it mutch, and hal isn't developed anymore).
I allways used "halevt" for automountig usb sticks, cameras, mobiles etc.

How u guys do that without hal? Is there a good solution with udev?

I don't want to mount only specific devices with 2-3 udev rules. I need a way to mount any remv. device :)


Regards,
fame

[dalek]

Have you looked into ivman. I'm not sure but I think it does what you want.


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[kingfame_147]

No, it is based on HAL :/

[dalek]

Well, it won't be for long. Hal is going out soon. I don't recall it using hal a while back tho. I guess it got snuck in somehow.

Maybe this will work.

[kingfame_147]

I thought about that autofs stuff, too. I'm not quite sure if it doe's what I need, but i'll take a closer look at it.

Thanks :)

[yzg]

If you are using KDE, the device notifier widget will do the mounting for you.

[dalek]

If he has removed hal, I don't think he has KDE. I'm pretty sure KDE depends on hal being there since pmount requires it. It does here but maybe I have some weird USE flag set somewhere.


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[SamuliSuominen]

[kingfame_147]

Hehe, yeah, no KDE here.

Act. I'm using fluxbox.
If autofs isn't what I'm looking for maybe i'll just wait until hal is gone and use a new mechanism :D

[SamuliSuominen]

[kingfame_147]

Sounds great. I'll have a look at it when I'm at home again.

[M]

[kingfame_147]

Well, for CDs u can easly use the fstab, or why u didn't want to use that?

[M]

Well, it doesn't make any difference if I will type mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom or just mount /mnt/cdrom , I can assign some shortcut for that, but I didn't bother because as I said lately I rarely use them.

[kingfame_147]

If u use the auto-option u just have to 'cd' in that folder, don't u?

[M]

I think auto will work just when you turn on computer and all fstab lines are processed and you have disk inside, not later on, for something like that you use autofs. But maybe I am wrong... I remember automounter from mandrake linux worked like that but now with hal polling is used so every n seconds drive is polled for status.

Edit: now I remembered what I also used before, you have some nice settings in /proc/sys/dev/cdrom, you can echo commands or add them in /etc/sysctl.conf, I used lock 0 and wm shortcuts for mount cdrom and sys-apps/eject, you only have to know if app is capable to handle force eject but that is up to you and your usage, so you can use happily http://proj.mgorny.alt.pl/uam/ , those are just udev rules with some nice shell scripts to handle all usb sticks, there is no daemon. Then just set some shortcuts for mount/umount/eject cdrom... It is a little stupid to have daemon to always poll for this info (for laptop especially), but udev also doesn't export this info so for fluxbox, openbox or similar uam and some shortcuts seems like a good combination.

[dalek]

Well, you do have another option. It is what is replacing hal anyway. There are two entries and I am not sure which you will need. Here they are:

[kingfame_147]

CD support is planed for UAM for the 0.4 release :)

I use cd-roms once in 2 months, nothing important for me.

@dalek

What does the policykit have to do with automounting removable devices?


BTW:

UAM works great. Thats exactly what i wanted: An easy and leightweigth solution with udev, thx for the hint!

[dalek]

[M]

Actually udisks is replacing hal, PolicyKit was/is used also with hal, they also changed names and confused everyone, as I understand PolicyKit is now polkit, devkit is renamed to udisks, consolekit is still consolekit I guess etc.
So after all these years we still have no standard way of mounting removable devices I will stick to uam and ignore all others.

[dalek]

Actually, devicekit is replacing hal according to the home page. The names have changed so much that who knows what it will be in the end.

Just stick with what works. When that stops working, try something else. That's what I usually do.


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[discomfitor]

[dalek]

I was going by what the home page says. From my understanding the same person wrote both hal and policykit or whatever they are calling this week.


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60TBs of hard drive space using LVM
Cooler Master HAF-932 Case

[SamuliSuominen]

1. udiskie, sys-fs/udiskie in Portage. udisks based automounter. python.
2. wmudmount, x11-plugins/wmudmount in Portage. udisks based dockapp.
3. traydevice, sys-fs/traydevice in Portage. udisks based trayicon. python.
4. udisksevt, haskell(!) based, http://github.com/dpx-infinity/udisksevt
5. package.masked thunar+thunar-volman (using gvfsd+udev+gnome-disk-utility)
6. pcmanfm (using gvfsd or later versions, like git, using udisks)
7. uam (based only on udev), in Gentoo bugzilla, https://bugs.gentoo.org/278363
8. nautilus, of course with gvfsd+udev+and co.
9. ???

I hope that helps.

[kingfame_147]

10. profit :)

Thanks again. I'm using uam since the time I started the topic and it's working great :)


Btw: The uam homepage seems to be down. Bad that such a good approach will not be developed anymore :<