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ghuug Bodhisattva
Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 53 Location: West Africa
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:53 pm Post subject: encoding |
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<-- KOI8-R -->
Во избежание путаницы в кодировках, предлогаю пользовать koi8-r как стандарт на этом форуме.
Есть кто против?
Форум пока еще сырой, надо порядок навести, etc.
Вообщем ждемс остальных модераторов.
Михаил. _________________ "Documentation is like sex:
when it is good, it is very, very good;
and when it is bad, it is better than nothing."
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sdk n00b
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 58 Location: Russia, Rostov-on-Don
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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мЕР! оСЯРЭ АСДЕР ЙЮЙЮЪ АШКЮ! оНЯР БШЬЕ Ъ ЛНЦС ОПНВХРЮРЭ РНКЭЙН ЕЯКХ ЯОЕЖХЮКЭМН БШАЕПС ЩРС ЙНДХПНБЙС ХГ ЯОХЯЙЮ! вЕЦН БШ ЛМЕ ОПЕДКЮЦЮЕРЕ ЙЮФДШИ ПЮГ РЮЙ ЙКХЙЮРЭ? ъ ХЛЕК РЮЙНИ НОШР Я НДМХЛ ТНПСЛНЛ Х ЩРН АШКН ЯНБЯЕЛ МЕ ОПХЪРМН.
ю, ЙЯРЮРХ, ВРН ГЮ ЙНДХПНБЙЮ ЯРНХР ЯЕИВЮЯ?
х ВЕЦН ДПСЦХЕ ЯЙЮФСР? _________________ Sorry for bad English, my $native_language = $perl |
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sdk n00b
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 58 Location: Russia, Rostov-on-Don
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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The same post only in koi8:
Нет! Пусть будет какая была! Пост выше я могу прочитать только если специально выберу эту кодировку из списка! Чего вы мне предлагаете каждый раз так кликать? Я имел такой опыт с одним форумом и это было совсем не приятно.
А, кстати, что за кодировка стоит сейчас?
И чего другие скажут? _________________ Sorry for bad English, my $native_language = $perl |
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ghuug Bodhisattva
Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 53 Location: West Africa
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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translit:
SDK - net, nado vibrat' edinuu kodirovku.
to, chto ti shyas napisal - eto bilo v CP1251.
Moy post bil v KOI8-R.
otsuda bespredel i nachinaetsa...
u kogo-to CP1251 stoit kak default, u kogo-to eto koi8-r.
ya predlozhil KOI8-R, t.k., IMHO, eto standard dlya Cyrillic unix users. A CP1251 - eto M$. _________________ "Documentation is like sex:
when it is good, it is very, very good;
and when it is bad, it is better than nothing."
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sdk n00b
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 58 Location: Russia, Rostov-on-Don
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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translit:
OK, moget ya sglupil. Esli koi8 budet correctno avtoopredelyatsya (browserom), to ya polnostyu ZA.
A budet li? _________________ Sorry for bad English, my $native_language = $perl |
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Slot n00b
Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 60 Location: Russia
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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С ЛЕМЪ БЯ╦ БХДМН |
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sdk n00b
Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 58 Location: Russia, Rostov-on-Don
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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рЮЙ БНР БХДХРЕ, Я ЙНДХПНБЙНИ ЙНРНПЮЪ ЯЕИВЮЯ БЯЕЛ БЯЕ БХДМН. с ЛЕМЪ ЯРНХР ЮБРН Х БЯЕ НРКХВМН.
2gnuug: Ю С РЕАЪ РПЮАКШ АШКХ ХГМЮВЮКЭМН?
х ЙЯРЮРХ, ЛНФМН КХ Б phpBB ЦКНАЮКЭМН ХГЛЕМХРЭ ЙНДХПНБЙС?
хМРЕПЕЯМН, Ю ЙЮЙСЧ ХЯОНКЭГСЕР МЮЬ ТНПСЛ МЮ www.linuxshop.ru? лНФЕР РЮЛ ЯОПНЯХРЭ С Timothy? нМ-РН РЮЛ БЯЕ МЮЯРПНХК Х БЯЕ ПЮАНРЮЕР МНПЛЮКЭМН. дЮФЕ НРКХВМН . х С БЯЕУ. _________________ Sorry for bad English, my $native_language = $perl |
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VN n00b
Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:53 am Post subject: |
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п░ я┤я┌п╬, UTF-8 п╫п╣ п╨п╟я┌п╦я┌? п≈п╟я┤п╣п╪ я─п╟п╥п╡п╬п╢п╦я┌я▄ п╢п╬п╪п╬я─п╬я┴п╣п╫я▀п╧ п╠п╬я─п╢п╣п╩я▄ п╫п╟ п╪п╦я─п╬п╡я▀я┘ я│п╟п╧я┌п╟я┘?
п÷п╬п╨п╟,
VN |
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GreenDragon Guru
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 319
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:10 am Post subject: |
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ghuug wrote: | translit:
SDK - net, nado vibrat' edinuu kodirovku.
to, chto ti shyas napisal - eto bilo v CP1251.
Moy post bil v KOI8-R.
otsuda bespredel i nachinaetsa...
u kogo-to CP1251 stoit kak default, u kogo-to eto koi8-r.
ya predlozhil KOI8-R, t.k., IMHO, eto standard dlya Cyrillic unix users. A CP1251 - eto M$. |
Net, nuzhno vybirat' ne edinuyu kodirovku? a normal'no nastroit' Apache i sey forum, 4toby user s any locals can read this forum. Blin!!! Inache za4em etot gemor.
====== koi8-r begin=====
??? ????? ??? ?????? ???????????, ?? ? ???? ?????? ?? ???????????? ?? ?????????. IMHO, ??????
====== end koi8-r ====== |
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UncleAndy n00b
Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Блин! У меня в юникоде не постятся сообщения. (((
Тогда лучше koi8, я думаю. |
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ba l33t
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 804
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:22 am Post subject: |
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ne, esli etu hrenoten' s kodirovkami ne reshit', to malo kto poidet na etot forum. i reshat' nado ne vyborom vse postim v odnoy kodirovke, a prosit' adminov sdelat' chtoby generilis' pravil'nye hedery.
\\ne navizhu translit |
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alx_ n00b
Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:32 pm Post subject: KOI8-R |
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кои8 текст? |
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im n00b
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 3 Location: russia
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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А почему не юникод ? Всё-таки стребовать с владельцев сайта пометку контента UTF-8 будет попроще, ибо им 7-битным это пофих. |
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Bor81 n00b
Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 68 Location: Kyiv, UA
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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U menya mozilla normalno ne detectit etot cp1251
Davayte ili koi8 ili utf8
Ustroyte golosovanie |
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svyatogor Retired Dev
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Posts: 186 Location: Kingdom of Kells
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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п╒п╟п╨, п╬я┤п╟я─п╬п╡п╟я┌п╣п╩я▄п╫п╬! п╒п╟п╨п╬п╣ п╡п╟п╤п╫п╬п╣ я│п╬п╠я▀я┌п╦п╣, Russian Follow Up translator (я┌п╬ п╠п╦я┬я▄ я▐) я┐п╥п╫п╟я▒я┌ п╬п╠ я█я┌п╬п╪ п╦п╥ п╫п╬п╡п╬я│я┌п╣п╧ п╫п╟ LOR'e.
п╒п╣п©п╣я─я▄ п╫п╟ п©я─п╣п╢п╪п╣я┌ п╨п╬п╢п╦я─п╬п╡п╨п╦. п²п╣ п╢я┐я─п╦я┌п╣, UTF8 - я█я┌п╬ я│я┌п╟п╫п╢п╟я─я┌ п╫п╟ я█я┌п╬п╪ я│п╟п╧я┌п╣. п╦п╫п╟я┤п╣ п╡п╬п╬п╠я┴п╣ п╨п╟я┬п╟ п╠я┐п╢п╣я┌... |
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Ezhik n00b
Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Ъ ЙЯРЮРХ c sdk ОНКМНЯРЭЧ ЯНЦКЮЯЕМ =) БЯЕ БХДМН Х КЮМН - С ЛЕМЪ ТНПСЛ www.gentoo.ru МНПЛЮКЭМН ОНЙЮГШБЮЕР.
ГШ ЙЯРЮРХ С ЛЕМЪ БЯЪ ЦЕМРН(ЙНМЯНКЭ Х ХЙЯШ) ЯХДЪР МЮ ru_RU.CP1251 БЙКЧВЮЪ openoffice, anjuta Х ОПНВЕЕ Х ОПНВЕЕ - Х УНПНЬН ЯХДЪР - АЕГ ЙПЪЙНГЪАКНБ Х МЕВХРЮЕЛШУ ЯРПНВЕЙ |
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im n00b
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 3 Location: russia
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
п╫п╟п╢п╬ п╡я▀п©я─п╬я│п╦я┌я▄ s/iso-8859-1/utf-8/
я█я┌п╬ п╬п©я┌п╦п╪п╟п╩я▄п╫п╬, п©п╬я┌п╬п╪я┐ п╨п╟п╨ п©п╬п╩я┐я┤п╦я┌я▄ koi п╦п╩п╦ 1251 п╫п╣я─п╣п╟п╩я▄п╫п╬, п©п╬я│п╨п╬п╩я▄п╨я┐ я┌п╬пЁп╢п╟ п╡я│п╣ п╣п╡я─п╬п©п╣п╧я│п╨п╦п╣ я┤п╦я┌п╟я┌п╣п╩п╦ п╡п╪п╣я│п╬ я┐п╪п╩я▐я▌я┌п╬п╡ п©п╬п╩я┐я┤п╟я┌ п╨п╦я─п╦п╩п╩п╦я┤п╣я│п╨п╦п╣ п╨я─п╟п╨п╬п╥я▐п╠я─я▀. |
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Gabber n00b
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 4 Location: Work
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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еЯРЭ ЮКЭРЕПМЮРХБМНЕ ОПЕДКНФЕМХЕ, davajte budem pisat' na translite ? ;]] ПЕЬЕМХЕ МЕ ЯСОЕП ЙНМЕВМН, МН ЕЯКХ ВЕЯРМНА РН Ъ ГЮ...Ъ ЫЕКЙЮРЭ ЙНДХПНБЙХ ;] _________________ LX440, Celeron 434Mhz (Mendocino), 288MB RAM, 20GB IBM, Fortemedia (Genius). Operating systems: Gentoo Linux 1.4, Redhat Linux 6.2, Windows 2000. Uptime: 21 year ;]]] |
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Unik n00b
Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Posts: 36 Location: Moscow, Russia
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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tak ne poidet
esli isxodit iz togo, chto etot forum dlya linuxoidov, a bolshinstvo russkix linuxoidov seichas ispolzujet koi8r (imho), to ego i nado ispolzovat. v budushem nado perexodit' na utf8, no nashemu phpBB eto svetit ne skoro |
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Gabber n00b
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 4 Location: Work
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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na samom dele eshjo ne v kazhdom offise linuksoidy sidjat na linukse ;]
no takoj bardak kak v etom subje tozhe ne katit ;] _________________ LX440, Celeron 434Mhz (Mendocino), 288MB RAM, 20GB IBM, Fortemedia (Genius). Operating systems: Gentoo Linux 1.4, Redhat Linux 6.2, Windows 2000. Uptime: 21 year ;]]] |
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aim1159 n00b
Joined: 24 Aug 2002 Posts: 60 Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: encoding |
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ghuug wrote: | <-- KOI8-R --> |
п⌠п╩я┐п©п╬ п╡ п╫п╟я┬п╣ п╡я─п╣п╪я▐ я▌п╥п╟я┌я▄ koi8-r. п▒я┐п╢я┐я┴п╣п╣ п╥п╟ п╦п╪п©п╩п╣п╪п╣п╫я┌п╟я├п╦я▐п╪п╦ Unicode (п╡ п╫п╟я│я┌п╬п╣я▐я┴п╣п╣ п╡я─п╣п╪я▐ п╫п╟п╦п╠п╬п╩п╣п╣ п©я─п╦п╣п╪п╩п╦п╪п╟ п╢п╩я▐ я▌п╥п╟п╫п╦я▐ UTF- _________________ /aim
Soft: i386 Ubuntu "Dapper Drake (beta2)"; Linux Kernel 2.6.15
Hard: RoverBook Explorer W200L (Turion64/2Gb RAM/100 Gb HDD/ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M) |
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Homer J. Simpson n00b
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 3 Location: Russia,St.Petersburg
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Пусть кои-8 будет !!!!Так привычнее и проще Все остальное -краказябры! |
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h1ma n00b
Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 3 Location: Sakhalin@RU
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:50 am Post subject: |
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ДЮ Б МЮРСПЕ, ВЕ ЛНГЦХ РПЮУЮРЭ, ЯРЮБХРЭ KOI8-R Х МЕОЮПХРЯЪ |
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Max_Evil n00b
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Вот нашли проблему... Если выдавать правильные хедеры, то разницы никакой. Но хотелось бы utf-8 |
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Totenkopf n00b
Joined: 02 Aug 2002 Posts: 5 Location: Dniepropetrovsk / Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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не. надо все-таки юникод. а то не одни мы тут, со своими кодировками. _________________ WBR, Totenkopf |
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