pmount-gui + *kit free system [lxde kde ...]

Dominique_71 · Last edited by Dominique_71 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:43 pm; edited 4 times in total

You like simple but efficient wm/de. You will like pmount-gui.

pmount is a policy based mounter that gives the ability to mount removable devices as a user. pmount-gui is a simple graphical frontend for pmount by Mikko Rasa.

I made a bug report where you can find 2 ebuilds, a live one, and the other for a tarball from today.

To emerge pmount-gui will install pmount. The other depends are udev and gtk+:2.

With "pmount-gui", you will get a gtk2 window where you can select the drive to mount with pmount.
With "pmount-gui -u", you will get a gtk2 window where you can select the drive to unmount.

This is a very useful program for all of us that doesn't want bloated stuffs like *kit lying around in their systems. It took me 2 minutes to associate it with 2 button bindings in fvwm-crystal. 2 keyboard bindings will be as easy to implement.

You can use it in conjunction with uam. uam is better for removable medias like CDROM and DVD, because it just mount them in the background.

With pmount-gui, we get the possibility to mount and unmount the other removable medias with 2 key press or 2 mouse clicks.

At that time, pmount work with all kind of removable medias, but pmount-gui work only with the usb ones. I contacted the author about this, and he is certainly open to improving the program.

Edit 1: As stated lower, pmount-gui is working fine now with external firewire devices.

Edit 2: For an *kit free lxde, see lower.

Edit 3: For an *kit and semantic-desktop free kde, see lower.
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Dominique_71 · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:25 am Post subject:

The GIT repo have been updated. pmount-gui support both usb and firewire devices.

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krinn · Watchman Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 7470

thank you for sharing a *kit free solution

Dominique_71 · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:07 am Post subject:

It is gigolo also that is good. It use GVfs, so it can do more, but it is slower. It also have a more advanced GUI with preferences setting and so on.
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Dominique_71 · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject:

A little update. In portage, lxde depend on udisks, but not in the lxde wiki.

In consequence, I made a bug report where you can find 2 patches. They add an udisks USE flag into lxde-base/lxsession and x11-libs/libfm. That is all that is needed to install an *kit free lxde

: lxde-base/lxsession and x11-libs/libfm should depend conditionally on udisks

Also, if lxde doesn't start or doesn't show up for you, change the permission of its session file in /etc/X11/Sessions to 0755. This have already been signalled in bugzilla.

EDIT: To resume, a patch that add an upower USE flag in xsession-0.4.6.1 is available on bug 438478, and a patch that add an udisks USE flag is on bug438700.
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boozo · Advocate Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 3193

Rhâa lovely ! no more *-kit packages

Many thanks for your 2 patch on b.g.o., it works fine here

(et vais tester pmount-gui tant qu'a être dans l'euphorie du moment)
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Dominique_71 · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:39 pm Post subject:

Another update. According to an email by Duncan on the gentoo-desktop email list, it is possible to get a *kit free kde. A very interesting and not surprising side effect is that it will be much faster.

Get ride of *kit:

Hypnos · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject:

FWIW, I've succeeded in ripping out ConsoleKit and polkit from my XFCE. My method:

* Set general USE flags "-consolekit -policykit" and for xfce4-session specifically "-udev"

* Use xfce4-battery-plugin to give battery status instead of xfce4-power-manager

* Have my special keys mapped to "sudo pm-hibernate" and "sudo pm-suspend" for those functions

* Use pmount + pmount-gui to mount/umount USB sticks instead of thunar-volman

Honestly, if sudo does the job for you (which it likely can, see "man sudoers") the *kit bloat is completely unnecessary.

When systemd tries to infect the world in earnest I'll move over to the udev fork
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gkmac · Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject:

On my install, it doesn't appear to be possible (as an example) to unset the policykit USE flag...

ppurka · Advocate Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256

Probably you need to force disable the USE flag. So you will need to create a /etc/portage/profile/use.force with the lines

Dominique_71 · Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject:

You have USE="upower udisks", and both depend on polkit. This is why to put USE="-polkit" alone will not work.

The Doctor · Moderator Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 2678

The desktop-kde profile forces policykit and consolekit otherwise kde is not supported by upstream.

see ppurka's post for solution. I have had absolutely no problems with a *kit free kde for at least a year.
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steveL · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:15 am Post subject:

Dominique_71 · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:29 am Post subject:

A little update. I would not use such a setup with lxde unfortunately. I guess the rule to adopt is: If you get your way with portage, your favourite WM-desktop will work fine.

I put 2 desktop profiles based on that thread into the pro-audio overlay (available with layman) . One for kde, the second for the other WMs. (Be aware: they also contain a lot of audio related USE flags

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soka · Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:39 pm Post subject:

Here is how to get a *kit free gnome-2.32.1 desktop.

[*]Set in make.conf USE="-consolekit -policykit -udisks".

[*]Update packages to the new use flags.

[*]After that the only packages remaining with direct dependencies to polkit are udisks and upower.

[*]To get rid of udisks you have dispose of libgdu which is a dependency for gvfs[gdu] which is a dependency for gnome so you have to modify the gnome ebuild.

[*]After that re emerge gvfs and gnome.

Dominique_71 · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:46 am Post subject:

soka · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:51 pm Post subject:

For those interested you can get the gnome-session ebuild along the other modified gnome ebuilds from the overlay I use for my machines. http://k6.tuxhome.com.ar/svn/overlay/
Note that the gnome ebuild is a stripped down version(no evolution, epiphany, sound juicer, vinagre, vino, sea horse, bug-buddy, cheese and other apps I don't use nor want).
For use it with layman you have to add it to layman.cfg in the overlay list part.

Dominique_71 · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:36 pm Post subject:

Dominique_71 · Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:07 pm Post subject:

When using an ~arch installation, you can find a package.mask file to use with soka's overlay here. It will mask Gnome3. It is from GNOME 3.2 in Gentoo: answers to common general questions.
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Dominique_71 · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject:

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Dominique_71 · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:36 am Post subject:

It is 2 bugs about that: 438478 and 438700.

According to 438700, pcmanfm exhibit crashes. Of course, you will be fine using another file manager.

As you can see with my signature, my favourite desktop is FVWM-Crystal. It know have a native desktop manager (icons on the desktop) which support $HOME, the XDG user directories and the mounted partitions. You can choose which group of icons you want, and which actions are bind to these icons. It support any file manager for X or the console, and even custom commands. The icon's are from Ken's dual png icons, and it was possible to port the 2 pictures of them to fvwm.

An updated FVWM-Crystal ebuild can be find on bug 468680, and a live ebuild into the proaudio overlay.
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Hypnos · Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:09 pm Post subject:

FYI, I'm enjoying using udevil with the stripped-down XFCE desktop I describe earlier in my thread.

Here's a script for throwing up desktop notifications using xfce4-notifyd whenever udevil does something (see udevil config file):

ppurka · Advocate Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 3256

+1

udevil is great. The most sane thing to come out of this udisks mess. It depends on udisks optionally, with a fallback to kernel polling if udisks is not present.