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incabolocabus Apprentice
Joined: 24 Nov 2003 Posts: 232 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:19 am Post subject: No Problems Here |
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Just for the record,
I did
USE nptl emerge glibc
USE nptl emerge nvidia-kernel
USE nptl emerge nvidia-glx
and nothing else
everything is running smoothly |
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glar00k n00b
Joined: 24 Dec 2003 Posts: 14 Location: Kulmbach, Germany
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:49 am Post subject: |
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Well, for the figures:
compiled linux 2.6.0 (vanilla), put "nptl" into /etc/make.conf, remerged glibc = works perfectly :) And my impression is: not faster than without. But hey, maybe i will use some java app someday ... so, i'll leave as is. |
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nepenthe Guru
Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 317 Location: Sanford, ME
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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for those who had problems with new nvidia-drivers and NPTL did you try emergeing the new drivers prior to the re-emerge of glibc? I know I had segfault starting X with the new drivers but then reading this
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36551 fixed the problem. |
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wolf_99 Apprentice
Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 213
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Just emerged 2.6.0-mm1.
Now when I open a gnome-console all I get is a blank window.
And I don't have sound eany more I tryd to emerge the alsa drivers but he aborts with an error...
oleas, in need of some help _________________ To err is human. To really fuck up, use a computer. |
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pran n00b
Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 18 Location: Canada
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gozu n00b
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 55
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Ive just dont this today, im still on 2.6.0 vanilla. Only recompiled glibc, everything seems to be sweet so far. Of course i do think this is rather pointless for what i use my system for, but oh well.., |
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Evangelion Veteran
Joined: 31 May 2002 Posts: 1087 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Kernel 2.6 (NTPL) Desktop Impressions? |
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zhenlin wrote: |
GTK+ is...
* LGPL
* C
Those two alone attract lots of developers. |
I don't really see the point when it comes to GTK+ being LGPL whereas Qt (for example) is GPL. I don't really see any commercial GTK+ apps, whereas I do see lots of commercial Qt-apps.
I think that the license is not really a valid reason to choose GTK+ over Qt when it comes to commercial developement. I mean, Price of Qt is about two weeks salary for a programmer. For that money you get kick-ass toolkit, kick-ass documentation and kick-ass support. With GTK+ you would just get a bunch of mailing-lists as your support.
Quote: | Actually, it is near impossible... GIMP is done in GTK+, this has no Qt alternative |
Not all of us use GIMP.
No it isn't. If it is, then why does it need a separate GTK-port?
Quote: | Konqueror isn't as featureful (no XML parsing, no XSLT, just to name some) |
Konqueror has all the features I need. And it's alot better at filemanagement than Mozilla is .
Quote: | GTK+, in conjunction with Pango, has automatic font-substitution, Qt, does not appear to. |
I'm not so sure about that. Qt has VERY GOOD internationalization-features. _________________ My tech-blog | My other blog |
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glar00k n00b
Joined: 24 Dec 2003 Posts: 14 Location: Kulmbach, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Kernel 2.6 (NTPL) Desktop Impressions? |
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Well, did you ever use or install mozilla? Ever tried to emerge mozilla? Ever looked into dependency list?
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michel v Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 100 Location: Corsica
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Kernel 2.6 (NTPL) Desktop Impressions? |
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Last modified September 30, 1999
September '99 is when development on today's Mozilla started, FYI.
GTK+ has been used internally ever since. There were separate Motif and Qt versions of Mozilla, but they died because of developer disinterest.
Nice try though. _________________ Advice for new users:
If you "emerge -u world", don't be surprised when everything breaks. Use "emerge -upv world", and then pick the packages you really need, and you'll have a much healthier system. |
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Evangelion Veteran
Joined: 31 May 2002 Posts: 1087 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Kernel 2.6 (NTPL) Desktop Impressions? |
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michel v wrote: |
Last modified September 30, 1999 |
So it seems
Quote: | September '99 is when development on today's Mozilla started, FYI.
GTK+ has been used internally ever since. There were separate Motif and Qt versions of Mozilla, but they died because of developer disinterest.
Nice try though. |
I'm still not conviced that Mozilla is a GTK-app. To my knowledge, it uses it's own toolkit (XUL?). _________________ My tech-blog | My other blog |
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Crg Guru
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 345 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Kernel 2.6 (NTPL) Desktop Impressions? |
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Evangelion wrote: |
I'm still not conviced that Mozilla is a GTK-app. To my knowledge, it uses it's own toolkit (XUL?).
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http://www.mozilla.org/build/unix-details.html#s3 |
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Evangelion Veteran
Joined: 31 May 2002 Posts: 1087 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Kernel 2.6 (NTPL) Desktop Impressions? |
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Well so it is. But what is XUL then? _________________ My tech-blog | My other blog |
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Crg Guru
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 345 Location: London
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davidblewett Apprentice
Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 274 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:14 pm Post subject: NPTL and prelink? |
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Tazmanian wrote:
The rationale for recompiling everything is not because things might break.
Assuming you're just recompiling the same version of glibc as what you currently have, all the interfaces should remain the same. As such, programs that dynamically link against glibc should not break. In fact, they start taking advantage of NPTL immediately.
Programs that statically link against glibc, on the other hand, internally contain copies of the (non-NPTL) glibc code. This means that these programs will definitely not break. On the other hand, they need to be recompiled to take advantage of NPTL.
Presumably, the programs you care about will not link against glibc statically. So you can most likely get away with recompiling only glibc. But those who want every last thing on their system to use NPTL will just have to recompile everything. </quote>
How does this affect using prelink? I assume that I'll need to re-run the prelink command, but after that *everything* should be NPTL-enabled right?
In other words, you would need to set the USE flag, remerge glibc then run the prelink command. Any reason why this wouldn't get everything? |
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irondog l33t
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 715 Location: Voor mijn TV. Achter mijn pc.
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Mozilla can be compiled against GTK2 wich makes it feel even worse than with it's own toolkit (XUL).
Qt has it's own licence (QPL), maybe this fact makes it less interesting to use it for some projects like mozilla. |
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seppe Guru
Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 431 Location: Hove, Antwerp, Belgium
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Firefox = 100% XUL
but not Mozilla, that's why Firefox came in the first place. _________________ nitro-sources, because between stable and experimental there exists only speed
Latest release I made: 2.6.13.2-nitro1 |
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Phemt Apprentice
Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Posts: 242
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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seppe wrote: | Firefox = 100% XUL
but not Mozilla, that's why Firefox came in the first place. |
wrong...firefox too uses gtk+1.x/2.x |
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