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steveL Watchman
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 5153 Location: The Peanut Gallery
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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kajzer wrote: | btw I need Gentoo MATE but Gentoo MATE doesn't need me
there are 3 people in #gentoo-mate, nobody saying a word for months. |
Lurking in a quiet channel, until it's perhaps busier, is a good thing. ;-)
Just use it as an adjunct to #gentoo-desktop and #gentoo-dev-help, and make it your own.
Ask in ##workingset for build-system advice. And don't forget to learn #bash properly.
There is also #cmake which is another quiet one. |
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davetk n00b
Joined: 31 Jul 2015 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Gentoo MATE needs *you* |
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steveL wrote: | If you use MATE, and want to see it improve, both in Gentoo and for everyone why not become a MATE Desktop Tester?
If you're having trouble getting it started, see this topic.
mods: apologies if this has been announced somewhere; couldn't find it, and seems deserving of user-promotion.
Feel free to delete, if so.
Stuck, at least for a while; or until we find a prior announcement/call for testers, whichever comes first. -- desultory |
Hmm, well I got the mate-desktop git repo to build... what exactly is it we should be testing? Thanks in advance..
Edit:
Wrote a simple ebuild for mate-1.14.0 using rinaldus-overlay. Hope it works for everyone..
https://github.com/subzeroifvoidnull/gentoo-mate-desktop |
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steveL Watchman
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 5153 Location: The Peanut Gallery
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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davetk wrote: | Hmm, well I got the mate-desktop git repo to build... what exactly is it we should be testing? Thanks in advance.. |
It will vary over time; ask in #gentoo-desktop on IRC: chat.freenode.net or .org as to what needs doing currently.
The overall goal is stabilisation for the gentoo tree.
Typically projects work in an overlay, then push to the main tree; eg KDE does this, so does haskell, both very successfully.
That's a good start. :-)
Ask #-desktop and #gentoo-dev-help for review (I'd start with the latter.)
HTH. |
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The Main Man Veteran
Joined: 27 Nov 2014 Posts: 1172 Location: /run/user/1000
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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jorgicio n00b
Joined: 17 Oct 2014 Posts: 47
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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I have a MATE overlay too.
https://github.com/jorgicio/mate-jorgicio
It's somewhat improved and maintained too. You may try it too and sending some feedback through an issue. |
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Princess Nell l33t
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 927
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lesnik n00b
Joined: 04 Oct 2016 Posts: 17
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:55 am Post subject: What profile should I use to install MATE? |
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I am preparing fresh Gentoo innstallation and I am planing to use MATE desktop. I have selected
default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop
profile and now I am going to emerge MATE metapackage. But before doing this I want to update my @world, and the emerge command tries to install lots of gnome packages. I suppose I selected not apropriate profile, but I am not sure about it. |
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Princess Nell l33t
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 927
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Same profile here, and I have some 25 packages installed that somehow have "gnome" in the name, or are from gnome-base/gnome-extra. |
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OldTango l33t
Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 718
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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I am (was) running on two different machines both Mate-1.12 and ~Mate-1.14 from Gentoo's portage. With Mate-1.12 -gtk3 the desktops are stable and usable. After switching to Mate-1.12 +gtk3 (Gentoo Stable)things just went wrong.
1. I can't change desktop backgrounds without logging out and then back in.
2. After right clicking a desktop item and selecting an item from the menu, the menus won't disappear and lie there unusable. A second right click pulls up a new menu that will also lie there dead. Dragging any window across these dead menus erases them, but leaves other artifacts on the desktop.
3. Dragging windows across the desktop leaves a dark gray or black image where the windows use to be placed.
Logging out and back in returns the desktop to normal where these problems just start all over again. If I enable the "software composting manager" things settle down a little but it makes the fonts much more difficult to read and doesn't solve the background or right click problem.
Some applications, "Steam Linux Client" mostly open in a huge black window with the Steam Client interface in the upper right corner of the black window and bounces around in an erratic manner. This one is ugly and makes the Steam Client all but unusable. (might be an nvidia-drivers issue but I am unsure of this at the moment).
Moving one of the systems back to Mate-1.12 -gtk3 makes it completely stable and usable again.
I have managed to get the other system to run ~Mate-1.14 +gtk3 performing better, but it still suffers from the background and right click issues and I have to disable the "software composting manager" before it stops leaving artifacts on the desktop when dragging windows.
Has anyone one else experienced these problems and if so how have you solved them.
TIA..... |
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Princess Nell l33t
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 927
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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When will 1.18 stabilize? I'm running it on a few machines, including FreeBSD, and it looks good. Even managed to disable the annoying tooltips (mostly ...), and powermanager/suspend on lid is finally working. |
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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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OldTango wrote: | Has anyone one else experienced these problems and if so how have you solved them. |
YES! I tried going back to gtk2 but it was worse. I'm probably mixing gtk2 and gtk3. I'll try moving all mate stuff back to gtk2 and report back. I also boot lumina so I will do my emerge's there. |
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Tony0945 Watchman
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5127 Location: Illinois, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Problem seems to be solved. I rebuilt everything in the chain with -gtk3. It took 25 minutes. Initially portage took 23 minutes just to fail to resolve and tell me emerge 1.18, but tracking down mate-common fixed it.
Here are excerpts from my package.use Code: | tony@X3 ~ $ grep -- -gtk3 /etc/portage/package.use
dev-libs/libmateweather -python -gtk3
mate-base/caja -gtk3
mate-base/libmatekbd -gtk3
mate-base/mate -extras notification -gtk3
mate-base/mate-applets -gtk3
mate-base/mate-applets-meta sensors netspeed -gtk3
mate-base/mate-control-center -gtk3
mate-base/mate-control-center -gtk3
mate-base/mate-desktop -gtk3
mate-base/mate-menus introspection -gtk3
mate-base/mate-desktop introspection -gtk3
mate-base/mate-panel -gtk3
mate-base/mate-session-manager -gtk3
mate-base/mate-settings-daemon -gtk3
mate-extra/mate-media -gtk3
mate-extra/mate-screensaver -gtk3
mate-extra/mate-sensors-applet -gtk3 lm_sensors hddtemp -dbus # big startup delay without dbus
net-analyzer/mate-netspeed -gtk3
x11-terms/mate-terminal -gtk3
>=x11-wm/marco-1.12.1-r1 -gtk3
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TigerJr Guru
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 540
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe i build mate without opengl support and get drawing problem, and even transparent background in mate-terminal is not transparent it's black
Quote: | [I] mate-base/mate
Available versions: 1.12-r1 ~1.14 ~1.16 ~1.18 {+base -bluetooth +extras gtk3 help +notification +themes}
Installed versions: 1.12-r1( 6:39:42 10.10.2017)(base extras gtk3 notification themes -bluetooth -help)
Homepage: http://mate-desktop.org
Description: Meta ebuild for MATE, a traditional desktop environment
[I] x11-terms/mate-terminal
Available versions: 1.12.1 ~1.12.1-r1 ~1.14.1-r1 ~1.16.1-r2 ~1.18.1 {gtk3}
Installed versions: 1.12.1( 6:23:44 10.10.2017)(gtk3)
Homepage: https://mate-desktop.org
Description: The MATE Terminal
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Maybe i should USE=-gtk3 flag or i need update mate with recent version i.e. mate-1.18 with ~amd64 keyword????? _________________ Do not use gentoo, it die |
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TigerJr Guru
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 540
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:57 am Post subject: |
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USE=-gtk3 solved drawing problems, even mate-terminal became with transparent background!!!!
Does anyone used mate-1.18 ?? _________________ Do not use gentoo, it die |
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TigerJr Guru
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 540
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I emerged mate-1.18.1 with USE=-gtk3 and ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64
Works better than mate-1.12, mate-terminal-1.18.1 draw in transparent mode even desktop buttons without any problem
P\S
mate-terminal-1.18.1 draws flash video in transparent mode from browser and even more %))))))
But artifacts still shows, but not much, i think it is video driver bug or hardware problem. _________________ Do not use gentoo, it die |
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5939
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: |
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TigerJr wrote: | Maybe i build mate without opengl support and get drawing problem, and even transparent background in mate-terminal is not transparent it's black
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I know I'm a little late but you need software compositing enabled for transparency to work. It's under settings, look and feel, windows.
edit: Any idea how long until we can see 1.20 in the tree? I think this is coming out any day now. |
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5939
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Wow, mate really took a long time to release... can't wait to try it out. |
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geki Advocate
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2387 Location: Germania
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:58 am Post subject: |
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TigerJr Latest mate-1.18 works beautifully here. Latest bugfixes to bugs I encountered (mate-panel, caja, upower, etc) went into micro versions, which may not be in portage tree or gentoo-mate overlay. I use gentoo-mate overlay plus bumping to latest micro versions with bare cp of the ebuilds. See upstream packages:
http://pub.mate-desktop.org/releases/1.18/?C=M&O=D
Since this version just works for me I luckily have no more rush to the latest and greatest version (1.20).
p.s.: I finally could ditch upower-pm-utils for upower and still have suspend and hibernate. I had to move to upower for support of logitech's unifying receiver usb wireless mouse with latest 4.14er kernel. _________________ hear hear |
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TigerJr Guru
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 540
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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geki Good News! vote +1 for stability
Should we wait for mate-1.20.ebuild ?
I localize drawing issue with artifacts only in my browsers(Opera-12 Vivaldi-1.14) all other application works fine...
bunder
software compositing with USE=gtk3 ? _________________ Do not use gentoo, it die |
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geki Advocate
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2387 Location: Germania
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5939
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:27 am Post subject: |
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bunder wrote: | Any idea how long until we can see 1.20 in the tree? I think this is coming out any day now. |
bunder wrote: | Wow, mate really took a long time to release... can't wait to try it out. |
bueller, bueller? |
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TigerJr Guru
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 540
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I have idea for how long Mate-1.20 would ebuild in portage tree, about month
Especially there is no reaction from gentoolopers, they have a lack of manpower _________________ Do not use gentoo, it die |
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5939
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:04 am Post subject: |
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its kindof sad to see that we're still lagging behind.
edit: i just took a stab at making ebuilds for 1.20.0. they are in my overlay (see sig).
(barely) TESTED USE AT YOUR OWN RISK (i know i need to update the dependancy lists, but as long as you have gtk 3 and glib installed you should be fine for now)
edit: this has been tested by a few users so this should be just fine.
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/etc/portage/package.keywords/keywords:
mate-base/* ~amd64
mate-extra/* ~amd64
app-arch/engrampa ~amd64
app-editors/pluma ~amd64
app-text/atril ~amd64
dev-libs/libmateweather ~amd64
media-gfx/eom ~amd64
media-libs/libmatemixer ~amd64
x11-misc/mozo ~amd64
x11-misc/mate-notification-daemon ~amd64
x11-terms/mate-terminal ~amd64
x11-themes/mate-backgrounds ~amd64
x11-themes/mate-icon-theme ~amd64
x11-themes/mate-themes ~amd64
x11-themes/mate-themes-meta ~amd64
x11-wm/marco ~amd64
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Neddyseagoon wrote: | The problem with leaving is that you can only do it once and it reduces your influence. |
banned from #gentoo since sept 2017
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54638 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:26 am Post subject: |
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bunder,
I'd be happy to try them on ~amd64 and ~arm64 if they were repoman clean or came with a list of problems.
From the headers, you didn't run repoman as it would complain about the copyright date. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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bunder Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 5939
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:29 am Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | bunder,
I'd be happy to try them on ~amd64 and ~arm64 if they were repoman clean or came with a list of problems.
From the headers, you didn't run repoman as it would complain about the copyright date. |
you're right i didn't.
i've never used repoman, but i'll see what i can do. _________________
Neddyseagoon wrote: | The problem with leaving is that you can only do it once and it reduces your influence. |
banned from #gentoo since sept 2017 |
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