KDE and systemd

shevy · n00b Joined: 28 Aug 2017 Posts: 16

(I decided to add to this thread, rather than create a new, separate thread, because it seems to fit to the topic at hand,
e. g. KDE and systemd, so it may be easier for people to find related/grouped information that way.)

KDE may go the systemd-only route.

This is a recent blog entry from a KDE developer (July 2020):

http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/modern-process-management-on-the-desktop/

He claims it will not be mandatory, but he does not list the alternatives to systemd here, which makes
his entry very dubious at best. I mean, to what other "managed service" does he refer to? Surely
not cgroups alone per se. And I am not aware of an alternative to systemd that fits the description
he did on his blog there.

I am curious what the BSD users will have to say about KDE slowly moving to increase the systemd
dependencies, step by step.

It also fits to the earlier post made in 2015, in this very thread (first page) and again it is David Edmundson.

It's interesting to see that individual KDE devs are much more proactive in regards to systemd-integration
than others; I haven't read any pr-systemd article by Nate yet, for instance, and he is one of the
most prolific blog authors in regards to KDE. So that is now the second time David reasons in favour
of systemd-lock-in. Third time will be the charm I guess?

By the way, related to the more general theme: I disagree that people should submit to "accepting"
systemd, or leave Linux towards BSD. This is akin to running away from the battle field when
you are under pressure. Fight back against slavery - props to Dantrell B. for showing that you
CAN fight back (admittedly I would not have had enough patience myself to undo the damage
caused by the systemd guys, but I also fail to see the point of abandoning linux merely because
Red Hat tries to hijack the area with its corporate hackers).

Fitzcarraldo · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:31 am Post subject:

shevy,

He does say the following, so I'm not overly concerned yet:

superjaded · l33t Joined: 05 Jul 2002 Posts: 802

In addition, that article is less about systemd in particular and more about "cgroup controllers" generally which seems to already be supported by openrc, although i don't know enough about cgroups to be able to speculate whether or not there's something inherent with the openrc cgroup controller that wouldn't satisfy KDE's aim.