why does qtwidgets depend on gtk?[closed]

Tony0945 · Last edited by Tony0945 on Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:17 pm; edited 1 time in total

I have a blocker on dbus. I traced it to qtwidgets-5.7.1 not being in the tree and 5.11 depending on gtk?
WTF? qt and gtk are competing toolkits. Now I need both? What do I lose if I turn off the gtk useflag?

I can't find qtwidgets to download on Sourceforge. There is no SRC_URI in the ebuild.
Where is the repo?
I have working apps like sqlitebrowser that depend on qtwidgets. I'd block >5.7.1 but I think that is going to cause a lot more problems and regenerating the ebuild is not easy.

When did this unholy marriage occur and how can I get a divorce?

asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9320

There's so much wrong with this post that I don't know where to begin with. Order your thoughts before you ask for help.

... oh, look, a USE flag! It comes with a description. Yes, of the two, Qt is the toolkit that is trying harder to look nice if run within a GTK themed environment.

krinn · Watchman Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 7470

Dunno where you see any furor, but if you see some next, i have an idea myself where this would comes from then.
You've manage to make 3 phrases ; and none of them are turn to be nice.

You could just reply RTFM, that would do the same, with less words ; or maybe, be nicer?

asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9320

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asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9320

I am not a moderator; I can choose to whom I am being nice. Ask a moderator if you think I have not fulfilled my task to enlighten Tony0945 about his question (?) and about the correct tool to use so he is able to help himself in the future.

(?) There were so many questions raised by the OP that I took the freedom of choosing to answer the one I thought would get him further. Not that he really needed it; I regard him to be at expert level with Portage.

Naib · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:44 am Post subject:

I think you are all missing the point. Why does Tony0945 need gtk on his system.

It's one thing for a package to have to build time option, and qtwidgets has this BUT he is saying why does 5.11 need it, is the ability to not have it has now gone. Now maybe there is some RTFM, maybe there is another package forcing gtk but so far none of the replies have actually addressed the query.

What has changed in qtwidgets
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asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9320

You didn't look at the output of my first post at all.

Naib · Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:36 am Post subject:

marax_faraii · n00b Joined: 11 Apr 2016 Posts: 40

[I] dev-qt/qtwidgets
Available versions: (5) 5.9.4-r1(5/5.9)^t (~)5.9.6-r1(5/5.9)^t (~)5.11.1(5/5.11)^t
{debug gles2 gtk +png test +xcb}
Installed versions: 5.11.1(5)^t(08:07:00 AM 07/04/2018)(png xcb -debug -gles2 -gtk -test)
Homepage: https://www.qt.io/
Description: Set of components for creating classic desktop-style UIs for the Qt5 framework

I don't have the gtk useflag switched on and I don't miss anything. Switch it off and see what happens.

asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9320

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Tony0945 · Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:29 pm Post subject:

asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9320

Nah, if my post was not able to clear up your mind then nothing can help you. You're not even worth a report.

Hu · Administrator Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 22867

To get back on topic -

Tony, whenever you disagree with what Portage wants, please post the full disagreeable output or precise steps that we can use to reproduce the output locally (USE flags chosen, command line executed, etc.). If you are misreading it, someone can point out how you misread it. If you are reading it correctly, it saves us time trying to understand how Portage got to the state in question.

Tony0945 · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:22 pm Post subject:

Yes, Hu.

In this case I knew what the problem was but not the why. qt had added a default flag "gtk", which brought in a new dependency on dbus.
I was attempting to find out why this flag was added and why it was default. I was very surprised that upstream added this requirement if they did. I do beleive I should have posted in Gentoo Chat as it was not a conventional support request.

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i4dnf · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:31 pm Post subject:

asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9320

It is not enabled, so it is not enabled.

Now, what your profile does is a different matter.

Josef.95 · Advocate Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 4679 Location: Germany

@i4dnf,
see in post https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8239258.html#8239258 :)
(it is with default/linux/amd64/17.1 profile)

i4dnf · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:45 pm Post subject:

@asturm, I guess micromanaging flags has its drawbacks... (And yes, the lack of + should have been a hint to the state of the flag)
@Josef.95, yes, but without the extra info, that output alone only tells that gtk is turned off for qtwidgets on your system

. (Doesn't tell how it was turned off)
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