kdesu dolphin as root not possible [SOLVED-again]

asturm · Developer Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 9307

A USE-conditional non-upstreamable patch - not likely to happen.

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dalek · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:47 am Post subject:

I just switched to the new profile and am going through the emerge -e world part. It seems the patches are failing. Here is one of the errors.

fedeliallalinea · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:11 am Post subject:

dalek · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:36 am Post subject:

gerard27 · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:21 pm Post subject:

I just recompiled dolphin-17.08.3.
In the emerge log it says user patches applied but I can't use it as root.
Should the patch be modified?
Gerard.
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fedeliallalinea · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:08 pm Post subject:

dalek · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:18 pm Post subject:

gerard27 · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:35 pm Post subject:

Thanks fedeliallalinea!
I recompiled dolphin with your patch and now it works!
Gerard.

Edit:I hadn't yet applied the patches for kate and kwrite.
These don't have a version number in them and worked w/o a hitch.
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wrc1944 · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject:

Problems again. :roll:

After todays dev/qt-5.9.4 updates kdesu dolphin no longer works. A Dolphin window opens, but is not populated, and a message in red is on the top of the page saying "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly."

Tried getting around it with this command but it didn't work. "export $(dbus-launch) && kdesu dolphin." (or using kdesu5, as both kdesu and kdesu5 exist in /usr/bin)
Tried rebuilding dolphin and kdesu5, but no luck.

Revep-rebuild says system is consistent.

Depclean wants to remove:
app-crypt/gentoo-keys
app-portage/gemato
media-libs/jasper ( I assume because have sys-apps/portage -rsync-verify set in /etc/portage because it takes 4-5 minutes to verify on each my three Gentoo systems every time I sync.

Not sure if it's the kdesu epatch need updating, and/or a full kde rebuild is needed after the big qt update, or something else I'm missing. Maybe only a few more kde packages need rebuilds?

Anyone have a fix or thoughts on the subject?.

After looking on several other sites suggesting deleting /var/tmp/ and/or /home kde cache directories I found this: At https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/506361 where I found a suggestion:

dalek · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:02 am Post subject:

Since this thread is the most relevant, thought I'd post here. A recent upgrade seems to have broken the patches as they fail to merge and I'm unable to use Dolphin as root again. Current broke versions.

kwrite-18.04.3
dolphin-18.04.3

Anyone else having problems? I was hoping that the patches wouldn't be needed anymore.
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wrc1944 · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:40 pm Post subject:

Yes- same here.
Dolphin, Kwrite, and Kate failed to even emerge, so I renamed /etc/portage/patches/kde-apps to /etc/portage/patches/kde-apps.old to avoid the attempt to apply the "root" epatches, and they then installed.

I can get a Dolphin root now from a konsole terminal su'd to root and then just typing dolphin, but at least on my systems it's missing icons in the window (just little text labels).

However, even with no icons the directories or files still open, and function. Still haven't figured out how to get icons in a root dolphin back, but will work on that later. Anyone have the fix for getting icons in the root dolphin?

I guess Nsane457's patches would need some re-working, assuming it's even still possible with the updated kde code, or even if they are needed at this point as kde DID revert to make root possible again. I'm assuming we can get icons back in a root dolphin window somehow, and that would amount to the same thing as the patches provided.

Does kdesu still exist?
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dalek · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:08 pm Post subject:

Well, at least it isn't just me. I just removed the .patch on the end so that it wouldn't try to apply them. It was the easiest way I thought of. I have this pair of kdesus listed.

root@fireball / # kdesu
kdesu kdesu5
root@fireball / # kdesu

I have a little icon down at the bottom in the kicker thingy. I have it set to run dolphin and in the advanced part, it is set to run as root. When it broke for me, I changed to make it open a console so that I can see what it is doing. When I click it, I get this.

wrc1944 · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:59 pm Post subject:

Hmm. I'm not using kdesu or kdesu5. All I did was after disabling the epatches I could then finish up the @world updates which included Kate, Dolphin, and kwrite which had failed before i disabled the patches.

Then I just opened konsole, typed su - and got into root. (note the space and "-" added after su). That might get rid of the QStandardPaths: wrong ownership on runtime directory /var/run/user/1000, 1000 instead of 0 problems

Then I just typed dolphin and it opened with the warning at the top of the window, although in my case I have no icons. But, it still works without the icons.

As I recall, when I first used the patches, I only needed to rebuild dolphin and the other 2. I assume when you disable the patches, a rebuild of dolphin would be needed, as I did do in the updating of my big last @world updating which did get the three packages to build with no patches enabled.

BTW, I'm running ~amd64 systems.
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dalek · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:48 am Post subject:

I figured out what you were doing and get the same thing here. It does look different. I figure it is reading a default config other than the normal one. May be looking in a different place.

Basically, I had a menu item for mine here. I just click it, it asks for my root password and it opens and runs as root.
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wrc1944 · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:30 pm Post subject:

I was searching for a solution to this no icons problem, and ran across this at: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/11556 (towards bottom of thread page)

They said this solves the problem:

Hu · Administrator Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 22730

You could more simply get the same result with a slightly different alias:

wrc1944 · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:35 pm Post subject:

Hu,
Thanks for the tip.

I suppose that's likely why on that web page it was mentioned "XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=kde" shouldn't be set globally. Correct?

From that 2016 post, ttuegel commented:

Hu · Administrator Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 22730

I don't know why they want it not to be set globally. Unless you run some other program that actively reacts badly to that being set, I don't see the harm in having it exported generally.

wrc1944 · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:05 pm Post subject:

Hu,
Leaving out the "export" in front of XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=kde && dolphin doesn't work on my systems.

A root Dolphin opens, but the icons are again missing.

Hu · Administrator Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 22730

If you leave out the export, you must also leave out &&, as I showed above.

A=B command : runs command, with A=B in its environment. No change to shell environment.
A=B && command : puts A=B in shell environment, does not export it, then runs command. The command will not see the result of the assignment.
export A=B && command : put A=B in shell environment, export it for all future commands, then run command.

You were using #3. I told you to use #1. You used #2.

I don't know the proper place to put that export. I don't use Dolphin as root.

dalek · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:57 am Post subject:

Before the patches broke with the latest update, I had a menu entry that I used to start dolphin as root. The command was a simple "dolphin %u" with it set to run as root in the advanced section. Even using the alias mentioned in the past few posts, the menu entry fails. I set it to open a konsole so that I can see what error it is failing with. This is the error, the entire output.