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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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salfter wrote: | I'm trying to block the 4.19.* kernel from installing since it has some USB problems described elsewhere. I have this in /etc/portage/package.mask/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin:
Code: | =sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.19.25.20190226 |
I tried this first:
Code: | >=sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.19 |
Both of these are ignored when I emerge @world; it keeps wanting to pull in the newer kernel instead of leaving the 4.14.* kernel alone. This is blocking an update of other packages (though I suppose I could get the list of ebuilds to be updated, filter out the kernel update, and do the rest). |
It shouldn't be blocking now: I have reduced the minimum kernel version in the metapackage (here) to 4.14.
Try running: Code: | demouser@pi64 ~ $ sudo emaint sync --repo rpi3 |
to pick this up, and then hopefully your kernel mask will apply, and you can update @world to downgrade to 4.14. _________________ Regards,
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salfter Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Sakaki wrote: | It shouldn't be blocking now: I have reduced the minimum kernel version in the metapackage (here) to 4.14.
Try running: Code: | demouser@pi64 ~ $ sudo emaint sync --repo rpi3 |
to pick this up, and then hopefully your kernel mask will apply, and you can update @world to downgrade to 4.14. |
I had already synced that version of the ebuild through. It's still trying to upgrade the kernel. After getting a list of packages to upgrade and filtering out sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin, sys-boot/rpi3-64bit-firmware, and dev-embedded/rpi3-64bit-meta (all of which upgrades are masked), it looks like I can update the remaining packages. |
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, that's strange. What do you get if you run: Code: | demouser@pi64 ~ $ equery d sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin |
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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For those who prefer a NOOBS-style installer, the v1.4.1 gentoo-on-rpi3-64bit images are now also available for install through PINN (called gentoo64 (=regular) and gentoo64pt (=pi-top) there).
Best, sakaki
PS: Many thanks to procount for helping me set up my own PINN repository (https://isshoni.org/pinn/os), and kindly linking it into the official set! _________________ Regards,
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salfter Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Sakaki wrote: | Hmm, that's strange. What do you get if you run: Code: | demouser@pi64 ~ $ equery d sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin |
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Code: | * These packages depend on sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin:
dev-embedded/rpi3-64bit-meta-1.3.2 (boot-fw ? >=sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.14.44.20180601[with-matching-boot-fw(-),pitop(-)?])
(!boot-fw ? >=sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.14.44.20180601[-with-matching-boot-fw(-)])
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:30 am Post subject: |
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If that's the only dep you have, it should update OK. Try pulling the repo again: Code: | demouser@pi64 ~ $ sudo emaint sync --repo rpi3 |
then does Code: | demouser@pi64 ~ $ emerge -avu rpi3-64bit-meta |
work? If not, what does it output as the blocker? _________________ Regards,
sakaki |
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salfter Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sakaki wrote: | If that's the only dep you have, it should update OK. Try pulling the repo again: Code: | demouser@pi64 ~ $ sudo emaint sync --repo rpi3 |
then does Code: | demouser@pi64 ~ $ emerge -avu rpi3-64bit-meta |
work? If not, what does it output as the blocker? |
Code: |
Local copy of remote index is up-to-date and will be used.
This action requires superuser access...
Would you like to add --pretend to options? [Yes/No] y
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB
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I believe that's the desired behavior...trying Code: | sudo emerge -auNDv --keep-going=y @world | now:
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Local copy of remote index is up-to-date and will be used.
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB
!!! The following update has been skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies:
sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin:0
selected: (sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.14.90.20181222:0/0::rpi3, installed)
skipped: (sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.19.25.20190226:0/0::rpi3, ebuild scheduled for merge) (see unsatisfied dependency below)
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "~sys-boot/rpi3-64bit-firmware-1.20190215[pitop(-)?,-dtbo(+)]" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- sys-boot/rpi3-64bit-firmware-1.20190215::rpi3 (masked by: package.mask)
(dependency required by "sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.19.25.20190226::rpi3" [ebuild])
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
Nothing to merge; quitting.
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I didn't get that the first time around, though...I think having --autounmask-write in EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS was the source of the problem. Adding --autounmask-keep-masks to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS should keep masked packages masked while still allowing keyword and USE flag changes, which is why I usually have --autounmask-write on my Gentoo boxen. |
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like something you have in /etc/package.mask/... locally is blocking sys-boot/rpi3-64bit-firmware-1.20190215: there's no rpi3-overlay mask affecting that package other than this one: Code: | # mask erroneously tagged version
=sys-boot/rpi3-64bit-firmware-1.20180417 |
which obviously doesn't apply in this case.
Do you have any applicable entries in /etc/package.mask/... ? _________________ Regards,
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salfter Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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/etc/portage/package.mask/ has the following:
Code: | ::::::::::::::
/etc/portage/package.mask/avrdude
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=dev-embedded/avrdude-9999
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/etc/portage/package.mask/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin
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>=sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.19.25.20190226
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/etc/portage/package.mask/mjpg-streamer
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=media-video/mjpg-streamer-9999
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/etc/portage/package.mask/rpi3-64bit-firmware
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>=sys-boot/rpi3-64bit-firmware-1.20190215
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/etc/portage/package.mask/rpi3-64bit-meta
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>=dev-embedded/rpi3-64bit-meta-1.4
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/etc/portage/package.mask/slic3r
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=media-gfx/slic3r-9999 |
bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin, rpi3-64bit-firmware, and rpi3-64bit-meta would be the files of interest here. |
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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So if you remove the files (or move them to another holding directory somewhere):
/etc/portage/package.mask/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin
/etc/portage/package.mask/rpi3-64bit-firmware
/etc/portage/package.mask/rpi3-64bit-meta
can you then update @world? _________________ Regards,
sakaki |
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salfter Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Sakaki wrote: | So if you remove the files (or move them to another holding directory somewhere):
/etc/portage/package.mask/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin
/etc/portage/package.mask/rpi3-64bit-firmware
/etc/portage/package.mask/rpi3-64bit-meta
can you then update @world? |
The intent with those files is to keep the kernel from being updated to 4.19 until its USB issues are sorted. Removing them would cause the kernel to update to 4.19, which I don't want to have happen.
Everything else is up-to-date AFAIK, so emerge @world shouldn't pull in anything new until other packages are updated. |
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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OK I understand I think.
The problem is that you need to remove the file:
/etc/portage/package.mask/rpi3-64bit-meta
and (if you wish) also:
/etc/portage/package.mask/rpi3-64bit-firmware
Just leave the file:
/etc/portage/package.mask/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin
That should be sufficient. _________________ Regards,
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roylongbottom n00b
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:56 pm Post subject: 64 Bit High Performance Linpack Benchmark |
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64 Bit High Performance Linpack Benchmark
Has anyone produced a precompiled version of the HPL benchmark to run on a Raspberry Pi 3, or detailed procedures to load the appropriate packages to compile and install one?
Some time ago, the original precompiled HPL benchmark was shown to produce the wrong numeric results or system crashes on the Pi 3B. I have recently been running two versions of the 32 bit HPL benchmarks on Raspberry Pi 3B and 3B+, via Raspbian Jessie and Stretch. The versions were an old precompiled one and another that I generated that uses ATLAS, with alternative Basic Linear Algebra Subprograms. The latter took 14 hours to build from scratch, including hundreds of MFLOPS speed tuning calculations. Although a later compiler was used, performance was slower than the original.
The benchmarks were run using a range of data sizes and options to utilise 1, 2 or 4 cores. Most tests encountered errors, using the old Pi 3B, but only during the 4 core tests, and not necessarily at high temperatures. No failures were encountered during the Pi 3B+ tests but there was an initial performance hit, using Raspbian Stretch, where the default temperature for reducing CPU clock speed, from 1400 to 1200 MHz, had been reduced from 70°C to 60°C. Note that both systems were in FLIRC cases, with efficient cooling via the built in heatsinks.
I than ran my floating point stress tests, four copies at the same time, homing in one that produced similar failures as HPL, with each using 160 KB data size, to overfill the shared L2 cache.
See 32 bit summary results in:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=44080&p=1448724#p1448724
and full details at ResearchGate in:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331983549_Raspberry_Pi_3B_and_3B_High_Performance_Linpack_and_Error_Tests
64 Bit Stress Tests
I also ran my 64 bit stress tests via Gentoo. Following is a summary of a series of tests on the older Pi 3B, where failures occurred on the third run, with performance and temperatures increasing (due to improved L2 cache hits?). The running time varied using the different logical core, when, on the final passes, two or three cores were in use, and produced higher total MFLOPS. The fourth run crashed. On rebooting there were no errors, but temperatures might not have reached the breaking point.
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Single Core Average 3688 MFLOPS
Test 1 Test 2 Test 3
Total Total Total
Seconds MHz °C MFLOPS MHz °C MFLOPS MHz Volts °C MFLOPS Errors
0 1200 44.0 1200 47.2 1200 1.2625 46.2
240 1200 63.4 3506 1200 67.1 5151 1200 1.2625 68.2 6716 0
480 1200 66.6 3489 1200 70.4 5145 1200 1.2625 72.0 6698 0
720 1200 69.8 3962 1200 72.0 5149 1200 1.2625 74.1 6709 6
960 1200 66.1 >7391 1200 72.5 >7367 1200 1.2625 74.1 >7630 5
Test 4 Test 5 Power Off/On
Total Total
Seconds MHz Volts °C MFLOPS Errors MHz Volts °C MFLOPS Errors
0 1200 1.2625 56.9 1200 1.2688 47.2
240 1200 1.2625 74.1 6248 2 1200 1.2688 68.2 4680 0
480 1200 1.2625 76.3 6246 8 1200 1.2688 71.4 4679 0
720 1200 1.2625 CRASH 3 1200 1.2688 73.6 4342 0
960 1200 1200 1.2688 69.3 >7200 0
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The next table provides details of Pi 3B+ test results, when there were no errors or crashes. MFLOPS measurements confirm faster speeds using fewer cores and variation on subsequent runs (one reducing). Temperatures were also lower ad CPU MHz constant. An increase in voltage was indicted at 60°C and after rebooting, also on the 3B after power off/on, but is it of any significance?
Code: | 1 Core 2 Cores 3 Cores
Average MFLOPS 4316 8273 7462
Test 1 Test 2 Test 3
Total Total Total
Seconds MHz Volts °C MFLOPS MHz Volts °C MFLOPS MHz Volts °C MFLOPS
0 1400 1.3375 39.2 1400 1.3375 47.8 1400 1.3375 50.5
240 1400 1.3375 52.1 5980 1400 1.3375 58.0 4298 1400 1.3438 61.2 5570
480 1400 1.3375 54.8 5980 1400 1.3438 60.1 4290 1400 1.3438 62.8 5595
720 1400 1.3375 58.5 5994 1400 1.3438 61.8 4788 1400 1.3438 63.9 5522
960 1400 1.3438 60.1 >7400 1400 1.3438 60.1 >8770 1400 1.3438 65.0 5545
Test 4 Test 5 Reboot Test 6 Power Off/On
0 1400 1.3375 54.8 1400 1.3500 47.2 1400 1.3500 46.2
240 1400 1.3438 63.4 4477 1400 1.3500 58.5 5817 1400 1.3500 59.6 6327
480 1400 1.3438 64.5 4441 1400 1.3563 61.2 5805 1400 1.3563 61.8 6341
720 1400 1.3438 64.5 4505 1400 1.3563 64.5 6500 1400 1.3563 64.5 7183
960 1400 1.3438 63.4 >5720 1400 1.3563 65.0 >9500 1400 1.3563 62.3 >10000
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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roylongbottom,
very interesting results, as always. In the raspberrypi.org posting you linked, you state (wrt a 32-bit system):
roylongbottom wrote: | In view of the Pi 3B failures, I decided to see if I could reproduce similar problems running my floating point stress test program, using four copies to saturate all CPU cores. Experiments showed that I could produce data comparison failures and system crashes, when each program was allocated 160 KB memory, to overfill shared L2 cache. No failures occurred during Pi 3B+ tests but, to start with, performance was degraded due to the slower CPU MHz at 60°C. |
So do I read you right, you can reproducibly create non-deterministic output (for a supposedly deterministic program) under certain (relatively high-load) conditions on the RPi3B (in 32-bit mode), where the temperature is high but below the default critical threshold?
Isn't that quite a serious issue? Have the RPF engineers come back to you with any comments? _________________ Regards,
sakaki |
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brikko n00b
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:25 pm Post subject: Very poor hw video decoding |
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Hello everyone.
I just tried the latest image and unfortunately I'm everything but impressed with the hw video decoding.
The same file plays perfectly in LibreElEC and is completely unwatchable here, both with VLC and ffplay -vcodec h264_v4lm2m.
Lots and lots of dropped frames... 1 core is almost 100% while the others stay at about 10%.
Is this the kind of performance that we should expect from the opensource v4l2 mesa framework? |
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:19 am Post subject: |
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brikko,
quite possibly there will be issues with it, as it has just been introduced with kernel 4.19; presumably it will get better over time. On my tests the hardware codec paths performed significantly better on high-bitrate files than the software paths did. But they may not yet exploit all the zero-copy buffering etc. that the MMAL paths can.
The version of VLC on the image does not yet use the v4l2 m2m HW codec paths, nor does kodi etc.
ffplay should do so however, when you force the vcodec as stated.
Can you share the URL of the target file you are trying to play? _________________ Regards,
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brikko n00b
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:17 am Post subject: |
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I noticed. There's definitely a difference between kodi/vlc (sw) and ffplay (hw), but even with v4l2m2m it's just not as smooth as it is with the proprietary driver, even with the basic 10Mb jellyfish test file. I can clearly see stuttering there.
The other file I tried to play is a common 1080p.AMZN.WEB-DL.DD+5.1.H.264-AJP69 mkv release. |
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:07 am Post subject: |
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brikko,
The other issue is pushing the rendered frames out for display. Currently, even with the v4l2 m2m codecs, this is done using a regular gl pipeline. As such, if you have a very high-res display, it can easily become the bottleneck (again, MMAL based systems can write directly, which is much faster).
Turning window-manager compositing off, and selecting the kms, rather than fkms, driver, helps with this, a bit. _________________ Regards,
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roylongbottom n00b
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sakaki wrote: | roylongbottom,
So do I read you right, you can reproducibly create non-deterministic output (for a supposedly deterministic program) under certain (relatively high-load) conditions on the RPi3B (in 32-bit mode), where the temperature is high but below the default critical threshold?
Isn't that quite a serious issue? Have the RPF engineers come back to you with any comments? |
Recreating the HPL type of failure (not necessarily the same) involved experimentation with known attributes of the program and results - floating point calculation speed varied and failures could be at lower speeds (with less heat), 100% utilisation of 4 cores, data size much greater than cache capacity that would need regular refreshing, original single CPU Linpack depended on L2 cache speed, failures not seen running my stress tests where all data could be in cache (but could be if run for a long time). So I tried stress tests with data larger than L2 cache size, where performance could be expected to vary.
Yes the issue is serious. See reply regarding more issues.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=44080&start=100#p1449330 _________________ Regards
Roy |
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Irre Guru
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Sakaki!
Please add "samba" as default use parameter for kodi. It works, but there are too many recompilations. (My media server runs samba). |
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Irre,
samba USE flag added to the defaults, and rebuilt kodi-18.0 pushed to the binhost. _________________ Regards,
sakaki |
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Irre Guru
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you very much! |
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Precision n00b
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Sakaki wrote: | - Kernel migrated to rpi-4.19.y (sys-kernel/bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.19.25.20190226).
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Does anyone know what commit this represents in the raspberrypi/linux git repo? There is no corresponding 20190226 release, and I did not find this information in the source tarball or release notes.
Edit: After cloning the repo and all that fun, time-consuming stuff, I see the commit is probably eb1e5b1a64ee6526a7cdb22357dcafc6ba643fbe. This is still just an educated guess, though, and I have no way of being certain. I remain interested in a foolproof way to determine the raspberrypi/linux commits that are used for Sakaki's releases. There appear to be many commits since the sublevel version bump to 36, for example. Does Sakaki build from 4.19.36's most recent commit (as of right now, 210f0d39438017f3b4e9a92cf4e2ccac8be3e795) or its first commit (c98875d930e915d01e8c40c7d3c16f00b3c8abe1)? |
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Sakaki Guru
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Precision,
if you look at the notes accompanying the corresponding bcmrpi3-kernel-bis release (the instance of the weekly kernel autobuild which the bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-bin-4.19.25.20190226.ebuild you cited uses as its upstream), it says: Code: | Release of version 4.19.25.20190226 (kernel 4.19.25-v8-78eb13b25d5e-bis+) | (You can also see this kernel release name by issuing uname -r on a booted system).
As then explained in that project's readme: Code: | As with its sister project bcmrpi3-kernel, the baseline build configuration is the upstream bcmrpi3_defconfig, wherein the first 12 hex digits of the tip commit SHA1 hash are appended to CONFIGLOCALVERSION (with a separating hyphen).
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As an (historical) example, on 1 June 2018, the default branch was rpi-4.14.y (NB, it is rpi-4.19.y now), and the latest commit was 4fca48b7612da3ff5737e27da15b0964bdf4928f (the short form of which is 4fca48b7612d). The created release was 4.14.44.20180601, within which the kernel tarball was bcmrpi3-kernel-bis-4.14.44.20180601.tar.xz, and the corresponding kernel release name was 4.14.44-v8-4fca48b7612d-bis+. |
By the same logic, the tip commit (of the 4.19.y branch) when the 4.19.25.20190226 kernel was built, was 78eb13b25d5e.
Which can be looked up at https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/commit/78eb13b25d5e.
So, iterating for the 4.19.36 autobuild, we see it has a release name of 4.19.36-v8-210f0d394380-bis+. Therefore, the short form tip commit of 4.19.y at build time was 210f0d394380, which can be looked up at https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/commit/210f0d394380. The long form is 210f0d39438017f3b4e9a92cf4e2ccac8be3e795 (i.e., your first answer ^-^).
Note you should always look up the commit hash from the kernel name like this if you require certainty, as even on a single day commits may well exist before and after the point at which the particular kernel was compiled.
Hope that makes sense! _________________ Regards,
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Precision n00b
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for the thorough explanation. We are so lucky to have you. I am sorry, however, as I still don't understand why this produces zero results:
Code: | $ PAGER= git log -1
commit f70d3cee7ea9e6411559cc75e3882d4703752dfe (HEAD -> rpi-4.19.y, origin/rpi-4.19.y, origin/HEAD)
Merge: 210f0d394380 6c3fc187664b
Author: Phil Elwell <pelwell@users.noreply.github.com>
Date: Wed Apr 24 14:59:59 2019 +0100
Merge pull request #2941 from P33M/rpi-4.19.y
Decrease cgroup mayhem
$ git log --format='%h' | wc # same number as currently on github
788224 788224 10246912
$ git log --format='%h' --all | wc # illogical paranoia
910116 910116 11831508
$ git log --format='%h' --all | grep -Fxm1 210f0d394380 # 4.19.36-v8-210f0d394380-bis+
210f0d394380
$ git log --format='%h' --all | grep -Fxm1 4fca48b7612d # your example
4fca48b7612d
$ uname -r
4.19.25-v8-78eb13b25d5e-bis+
$ git log --format='%h' --all | grep -Fxm1 78eb13b25d5e # my machine
$
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