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miket
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 Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:57 am Post subject: License crazy? |
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Did I miss a memo? After upgrading to Portage 2.3.62 after a sync yesterday, Portage has become hyper-concerned about licenses. Sure, I expect to see license restrictions for things like Chrome binary plugins, but now it has taken to saying that packages are masked for not accepting licenses like Artistic and GPL-2.
Really??!!??
Here is just a snippet of the Portage output in the section "The following license changes are necessary to proceed:"
| Code: | # required by dev-lang/ruby-2.4.5::gentoo[rdoc]
# required by dev-ruby/rubygems-2.7.9::gentoo[ruby_targets_ruby24]
# required by virtual/rubygems-14::gentoo[ruby_targets_ruby23]
# required by dev-ruby/racc-1.4.14::gentoo
=dev-ruby/rdoc-5.1.0 MIT Ruby |
There were also many lines that did not get the full treatment with listed dependencies, lines like
| Code: | | - app-arch/cpio-2.12-r1::gentoo (masked by: GPL-3 license(s)) |
I added this string to my ACCEPT_LICENSES and saw most of this foolishness go away.
| Code: | | @FSF-APPROVED @FSF-APPROVED-OTHER @MISC-FREE @OSI-APPROVED |
Yet still it hangs up on licenses like man-pages and freedist!
What on earth happened?
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Edit to note that instead of adding the above string to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS, using simply @FREE stands in for all of those and also @MISC-FREE-DOCS, which takes care of man-pages.
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fedeliallalinea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:46 am Post subject: |
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I don't know what happend but in my system ACCEPT_LICENSE is correct set, as default, to "* -@EULA". This is set by profile normally (see /usr/portage/profiles/base/make.defaults).
Your profile is set correctly?
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miket
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed, the ACCEPT_LICENSE setting in /usr/portage/profiles/base/make.defaults is "* -@EULA"
There are no other places under /usr/portage/profiles/ which sets that variable.
I'm using a custom profile that has default/linux/amd64/17.0 as its parent.
This raises a curious question. I thought that portage would evaluate the configuration files in ascending order of precedence with the effect that later settings of variables would override any previous settings. In that way, anyone setting ACCEPT_LICENSE in /usr/portage/make.conf would override the setting from the profile. Is ACCEPT_LICENSE treated differently? I never before had to prefix the variable in this way: | Code: | | ACCEPT_LICENSE="$ACCEPT_LICENSE google_chrome" |
Note that in previous emerges with this same profile I did not have packages masked for licenses. |
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fedeliallalinea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| miket wrote: | This raises a curious question. I thought that portage would evaluate the configuration files in ascending order of precedence with the effect that later settings of variables would override any previous settings. In that way, anyone setting ACCEPT_LICENSE in /usr/portage/make.conf would override the setting from the profile. Is ACCEPT_LICENSE treated differently? I never before had to prefix the variable in this way: | Code: | | ACCEPT_LICENSE="$ACCEPT_LICENSE google_chrome" |
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Sorry, I don't know, I've no experience on it
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NeddySeagoon
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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The default has been or is being changed.
See the Feb 2019 Council Meeting Summary
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Tony0945
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| miket wrote: | I thought that portage would evaluate the configuration files in ascending order of precedence with the effect that later settings of variables would override any previous settings. In that way, anyone setting ACCEPT_LICENSE in /usr/portage/make.conf would override the setting from the profile. Is ACCEPT_LICENSE treated differently? I never before had to prefix the variable in this way: | Code: | | ACCEPT_LICENSE="$ACCEPT_LICENSE google_chrome" |
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That form appends google_chrome to the previous licenses. It's shell (or bash) syntax.
You can use this to make your use flags read neater too and get around the nano line length limitation.
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#first as policy no RedHat stuff
USE="-acl -perl -caps -ldap -nls -libav -mysql -orc \
-gnome -gnome-keyring -policykit -consolekit -udev -dbus -jack -pulseaudio \
-udev -udisks -upower -networkmanager"
#now remove other useless stuff
USE="$USE -accessability -bluetooth -guile -qt4 -qt5 -ipv6 -tcl -tk -vala "
#now add stuff I want
USE="$USE alsa dvb dvd dvdr ffmpeg v4l ftp jpeg gbm \
gstreamer python scanner sndfile samba sqlite suid tahoma truetype xpm \
xv multislot split-usr gtk3 X"
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I think my first USE line wiped out the profile USE.
Here is my ACCEPT_LICENSES, warning! It's probably a decade old. | Code: |
ACCEPT_LICENSE="* AdobeFlash-11.1"
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Fixed the quote -- NeddySeagoon |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Tony0945,
The line continuation marks are no longer required.
If you want to wipe out you profile USE put USE="-* ..." in make.conf.
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Hu
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| Tony0945 wrote: | | Code: | | USE="$USE -accessability -bluetooth -guile -qt4 -qt5 -ipv6 -tcl -tk -vala " |
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Minor point: you misspelled accessibility, but the in-tree uses spell it correctly, so your attempt to disable it is ignored. |
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Tony0945
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | MSI portage # equery h accessibility
* Searching for USE flag accessibility ...
[IP-] [ ] dev-qt/qtgui-5.12.1-r1:5/5.12
[IP-] [ ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.20.2-r2:2
MSI portage # equery h accessability
* Searching for USE flag accessability ...
MSI portage #
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Thank you, Hu. Absolutely correct as always. Blame it on old eyes. I'm going for cataract surgery next month. |
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Tony0945
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| NeddySeagoon wrote: | Tony0945,
The line continuation marks are no longer required.
If you want to wipe out you profile USE put USE="-* ..." in make.conf. |
Good to know. Not planning to wipe out the profile, but thought maybe I did.
Why no longer required? A change in bash? |
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| Heh, when I first saw the subject title I thought this was about how if you write an ebuild, no matter how big, no matter how many thousand lines, it's copyright under Gentoo. |
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| NTU wrote: | | Heh, when I first saw the subject title I thought this was about how if you write an ebuild, no matter how big, no matter how many thousand lines, it's copyright under Gentoo. |
At least the code enforcing that craziness is now fixed but yeah, that rule was in place for far too long. |
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| Ant P. wrote: | | NTU wrote: | | Heh, when I first saw the subject title I thought this was about how if you write an ebuild, no matter how big, no matter how many thousand lines, it's copyright under Gentoo. |
At least the code enforcing that craziness is now fixed but yeah, that rule was in place for far too long. |
What is the difference between Copyright Gentoo Foundation and Copyright Gentoo Authors ? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| Tony0945 wrote: | | Ant P. wrote: | | NTU wrote: | | Heh, when I first saw the subject title I thought this was about how if you write an ebuild, no matter how big, no matter how many thousand lines, it's copyright under Gentoo. |
At least the code enforcing that craziness is now fixed but yeah, that rule was in place for far too long. |
What is the difference between Copyright Gentoo Foundation and Copyright Gentoo Authors ? |
The foundation is half a dozen people. Gentoo Authors on the other hand is a catch-all referring to whoever actually wrote the ebuild and holds the copyright. There's no CLAs here, so the previous statement was legally null and void at best; I'd say we've got lucky that nobody sufficiently evil and petty has showed up thus far to drag Gentoo to court over it.
Also note that repoman's new rule allows actual names on the copyright line, not just the string “Gentoo Authors”. It's just there as a fallback. |
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| Ant P. wrote: | | Also note that repoman's new rule allows actual names on the copyright line, not just the string “Gentoo Authors”. It's just there as a fallback. |
So if I write one from scratch, I can put my name on it?
I usually don't worry about these things but recently Matt Tobin of the palemoon team used legal threats to coerce Feodor2 (google github MyPal) to stop issuing patches against his MPL code and to instead post the whole patched code. When someone unknown posts patches it's much easier to inspect the patches rather than wade through a few gigabytes of code to find changes.
So I got concerned that if I start publishing ebuilds the Foundation might be able to sue me for copyright violation. This is a major reason why I don't have a github site for the old Roy Marples versions of OpenRC and other packages that have disappeared over the years. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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If you create an ebuild: you can put your name in it, it's your creation and you're the author.
If you publish old ebuild, it depends on the license set in them, but to my knowledge, all ebuilds i know are under GPLv2, which mean, publish them as you wish, change them as you wish (but if you publish the product with these changes, you must provide source of it ; which for ebuilds mean nothing as ebuilds are their own source)
If you modify an existing ebuild, you could add also your name in it, but you cannot remove other authors copyright.
For the "gentoo authors" change, it mean nothing legally i think (but i'm not a lawyer), because the only legal gentoo entity to attack is the Foundation anyway.
I think they use it rather than "unknown authors" which would had been better imo ; i'm not quiet sure why they have done that, but i'm certain they have fail if they think it was good. |
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Tony0945,
Its unlikely ebuilds individually can be copyrighted. You would be hard pressed to show that it was an original work and if you use any eclasses at all you may find that the ebuild is small in comparison to the ebuild.
Almost all or ever all ebuilds can be shown to be derivatives of /usr/portage/skel.ebuild and that goes for new ebuilds too.
The Gentoo Authors includes everyone who ever contributed.
The entire repo on the other hand, that includes all the eclasses, is probably copyrightable.
I'm saying 'unlikely' and 'probably' as these concepts have not been determined in any court that I'm aware of.
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