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Willem Hendriks
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i installed with 2.6 and acpi
but there is no /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance
but i can see the info, limit, power andthrottling. I followed the guide, did i forget a USE far? (didn't set them like the guide) |
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I think this stuff is now stored in the new /sys filesystem of the 2.6 kernels.
@federico: Some postings above webmarck had some similar problem, i wrote some lines to the touchpad just read it and try them. |
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pestilence
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OK new update!!!
I compiled 2.6.3 with ATI support as a module (inside the DRM section of the kernel configuration) i emerged xfree 4.3.0-r4 and compiled kde 3.2
I have to say that now the system is more stable...more powerfull and my glxgears with the native kernel driver is:
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pestilence@pestilence pestilence $ glxgears
7054 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1410.800 FPS
7054 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1410.800 FPS
7073 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1414.600 FPS
7070 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1414.000 FPS
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject: Updates and repost |
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I made an update today to the lcpci section, it's an really intensive report on all kind of hardware built into our baby. Have a look at it.
edit: Also uploaded my current configs to my server and updated the link graveyard
@pestilence:
1. Yes I can, as well as others confirm that fan noise, whatever raises the system level, it must be huge or disabling some daemons...
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I noticed this difference in your config file:
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Option "MonitorLayout" "AUTO, NONE"
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2.This is actually the same setting i have. If you put in a second AUTO after the first your able to connect to a beamer and so on, but give it a try...
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I compiled 2.6.3 with ATI support as a module (inside the DRM section of the kernel configuration) i emerged xfree 4.3.0-r4 and compiled kde 3.2
I have to say that now the system is more stable...more powerfull
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This is very good news, I'll try it once I have time...
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I had this once -- total lock, can't switch to other consoles and CPU fan starts to spin. Pressing the "power" button (configured to start "poweroff") powers off safely.
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1. This is exactly what I get. BTW: I don't have any errors restarting XFree...
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That's even worse than before...(hdparm)
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2. I've got about 8MB! That topic is realy strange (more downstairs in this post)
3. I can confirm your /etc/domainname stuff. Just set it and no more app delays.
@Willem Hendriks:
see the /sys/... directory, since you're using 2.6. in 2.4 it was /proc/..., but I pointed that out in that section....
So here comes the hard part: The performance of the HDD, my current speeds lay around 8/720MB, so THIS IS NOT VERY FAST !!! ARGHHH !!!!
I've made a benchmark with bonnie++...same results. Then I switched to windows and benchmarked...same result! I desperadly not hope that this is a hardware issue, but keep on going boys!! This is tough stuff...
P.S.: Please be carefull posting complete logs or configs as this is really annoying. If I would post all my configs here, I would surely have about 100 pages. Again, please just post the important stuff, not the whole config...
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Kev: up to now my system is running i got no freezes at all from the minute is switched to the native build driver of the kernel.
KDE 3.2 is awesome...i could say it's twice as fast as the kde 3.1.5 konqueror opens up in seconds...its like opening a text browser!!!
Here are some samples of the timings:
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pestilence@pestilence pestilence $ time kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing
real 0m2.218s
user 0m0.078s
sys 0m0.006s
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This is sample of opening konqueror while running xmms and compiling krusader in the background!
Its stunning! 
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Updates and repost |
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That's even worse than before...(hdparm)
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2. I've got about 8MB! That topic is realy strange (more downstairs in this post)
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Hm, have a look at this post, people are experiencing the same problems: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=862861
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3. I can confirm your /etc/domainname stuff. Just set it and no more app delays. |
Yes, setting the domainname solved the problem -- somehow. Startuptimes are normal if I am logged onto the net -- e.g. at the university. If I use my Acer at home, the startup times are terrible again. I can stop /etc/init.d/net.eth0, and the startup times return to the normal state. BUT, if I stop net.eth0 ALSA complaines and I have to live without sound. I'll look more closely into this when I find some spare time. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:25 pm Post subject: hdd performance |
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Hi guys,
I've done some research on the Hitachi drive and found the following:
Hitachi Performance Compare
I've done some research on Hitachi drive an found that the tranferrate of approx. 20MB/sec is the fastest where 8-10MB/sec is average (depending on where the data is actually on the drive). Furthermore this drive seems to be one of the faster ones built into laptops...sad, but true...
Have a look at it. If someone has some good news despite this post here, keep on posting !
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thepi
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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_kev_, first I'd like to say you did a wonderful job here! i would never have come that far configuring my laptop (acer tm800lci, the original one w/o bluetooth). at least it'd have taken forever for me to find out about i.e. the kernel config.
anyway, i do have that freeze problem as well. always happens in mozilla (firebird 0.7 as well as firefox 0.8 ) when i'm scrolling around too much (via mousewheel, that is). but it also happens for example in sylpheed-claws, when the main window is redrawing (esp. if i accidentally check mail twice in a row).
symptoms are always the same: can move around the mouse, but no reaction on clicking/keyboard typing. meanwhile, redrawing stops (in firebird/-fox it displays a part of the page twice, depending on the direction i was scrolling), and the cpu fan turns on. power button takes me out safely, and ssh'ing in is reported to work (i heard, didn't check that yet).
after some research, i could narrow it down to a problem which has to do with the ati graphics driver; apparently some function lets X get stuck in a BUSY loop, rendering it unable to answer even to CTRL-ALT-BKSPC.
i found a hint to this here.
every problem report i found goes back to the function radeon_freelist_get().
seemingly nobody digged into that problem, i even found reports on that bug (on freebsd as well!) dating well over 2 years ago (late 2001/early 2002, don't remember where i found it).
to sum it up, it seems to have to do with the overall ati-radeon support in xfree.
let's hope someone will solve that, i'm trying since 2-3 weeks and it's driving me nuts! I'm not enough of a kernel hacker to debug the xfree sources already.
any comments are welcome.
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@thepi: Thank you for your wonderfull work into this topic! Track that thing down an make a bug-report to gentoo, xfree, ATI or the dri-project.
OR better mail THEM all !! A lot of people would be pleased if this bug is dead... 
If you hear any news about this bug, pm me or post here...
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I can report 7 hours uptime with many application running such as Zend Mozilla Firebird and xmms on kde 3.2 with the build in drivers of the kernel and still no freezes or glitches...
Let's hope this is the solution to our problems...
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I want to tell you a story.. I have a travelmate 291 lmi and a friends of mine bought the same notebook.. well, the max screen resolution of mine is 1024x768@60 (as acer says) and he has for example resolutions like 1400x1050@85 ..
Then our two notebooks are quite different, he has a lighter chassis' color and the sticker says XGA (mine), the other says SXGA..
My life was nice before knowing that there are different hardware on that 291lmi and mine is not so good..
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also had lock up problems in mozilla and MozillaFirebird with ATI 3.7.0 driver when using wheel-mouse.
after switching to DRM no more problems, but the "Display Power Management" from xscreensaver doesn't work with DRM. Is there an other way to totaly blank the display after some minutes? maybe possible with acpid? |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:15 pm Post subject: ATI 3.2.8 |
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@all:
As I'm using ati-drivers 2.8.0, this problem also occurs in these drivers as well...
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:03 pm Post subject: for all noobs... |
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This is a message I recently got from from Duke12 and I want to point out some stuff, as I've discovered other threads where noobs are not threatened that well. I hope you all agree to my answers, as even the silly questions about a topic are usefull to the community. I never (this is an order  ) want to hear the good old "RTFM" here!
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Hi, I recently stumbled on you thread on how to install Gentoo on a 803LCI and since I've been intrigued about Gentoo for some time, your guide just might give me the confidence and boot I needed to try it out !
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That's good, give it a try, it the best (at least in my oppinion)!
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But before I do, I need ask : Is there a Acer notebook community somewhere on the net ? I've found large communities for Sager, Toshiba and Dell, but nothing for Acer yet. If you can direct me to one, I would very much aprreciate.
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Nope, sorry, there is currently no dedicated community I know of for the Travelmate. That's why I opened up this thread. I don't want to outsource this thread to a seperate community board. 1st this board is well known and 2nd this thread is also know on linux-on-laptops.org and tuxmobil.org so there is no need to drive away the members currently active in this forum-thread. But if you want to participate in our discussion or have questions about your laptop, don't hesitate to ask there (even though it might be a silly question), it will definetly be answered.
Gentoo Acer 803LCi support thread (discussion section)
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This is my first laptop and I just got it yesterday. I'm probably gonna have some noob questions about the 8003LCI before I'm ready to install linux and I would like to find a place where to ask them.
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You're at the right place here...
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For example, the laptop came with XP-pro preinstalled and I don't have a clue as to why there's a second partition called Acer Data ... I would very much like to repartition my hard drive and reinstall win XP from scratch, but would like to find out if that partition, or installing drivers is an issue before I format the whole thing.
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OK, that'smight not be a heavy problem, the "acer-partition" contains only some data (all the customized hardware stuff for windows drivers to use) for restoring your winxp system from the acer-recover-cds. SO, if you don't need a recovery (which I suppose), you can spill that partition (like I did) and completly build up your system (inclusive winxp) from scratch. NOTE: The recover-cds will not let your install winxp, you'll need a full-install-version. For summary: You can definetly reformat the whole thing without worrying about issues...
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I'd also like to find out if there are any issues dual booting XP/linux (in this case it would be Gentoo) on the notebook ... |
Here also you don't have to worry about, this is possible and easy to do (I have this configuration layout). I will update my Tutorial about this topic if there is demand for it.
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Anyway, if you can redirect me to a forum where I could ease myself in the 803LCI community, I would realy appreciate ! |
You're definetly in the best forum/thread for your Travelmate as most of my stuff apllies for linux in general and only some special stuff is for the Travelmate itself.
You should look at the Gentoo Installation Guide. There is also a partitioning guide inside this doc. As I'm stuck with linux now for a long time, this forum is the best I've discovered in that time...
If you have any questions (I mean any) just feel free to ask!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:43 am Post subject: |
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OK the update.
After 4 days running the DRM kernel module of ATI i can confess that i have not experienced any kind of lockups with any kind of intensive use of the system (kde 3.2, xmms playing, compiling heavy stuff in the background and Zend (java based) development suite working, mysql and apache2 running) no kind of lock ups no freezes only some minor glitches for the mouse cursor sometimes (it must be related to something else not the X session).
If anyone is really annoyed with the ati-drivers lockups occuring i strongly recommend to him switching to build in kernel modules.
If you want to wait a little more i will be updating this post regularly with
information regarding this issue.
My current configuration is:
Kernel: 2.6.3-rc1-love1
KDE: 3.2
gcc: i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.2
QT: 3.3.0
Kernel is to be upgraded today to version 2.6.3-rc2-love2 standby for further updates.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Nice update Penstilence 
But witch version of the kernel did u run before? I have run 2.6.1-gentoo-r1 and 2.6.2-gentoo-r1 and I havent had any lockups at all. Makes me wonder if there might be other parameters involved in the error.
Currently I run on
2.6.2-gentoo-r1
xfree 4.3.0-r5
Gnome 2.4.2
And use
USE="X alsa usb acpi mozilla apache2 mysql samba cups dga gnome java ldap mmx sse pcmcia dvd -apm -slang -kde -alpha -sparc -mips -hppa -arm -arts -oss -ppc -ppc64"
CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -pipe -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr -frename-registers -fprefetch-loop-arrays -falign-functions=64" |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:33 am Post subject: Re: for all noobs... |
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| _kev_ wrote: | I hope you all agree to my answers, as even the silly questions about a topic are usefull to the community. I never (this is an order ) want to hear the good old "RTFM" here!
As I'm stuck with linux now for a long time, this forum is the best I've discovered in that time...
If you have any questions (I mean any) just feel free to ask!
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I perfectly agree to that, _kev_! sometimes the RTFM ideology is a bit overdone and scares away plenty of potential "customers" (e.g., to-be linux friends  ) although i can understand that such questions are misplaced on dev- and kernel-lists and thus are rejected there, but hey, what's this forum for if not to help ppl, especially(!) noobs, to get accustomed to linux. as I stated before, I'd have had a (much) hard(er) time getting this to run on my acer800 baby if it wasn't for this forum (and this thread in particular). And that is although I'm not a complete noob when it comes to linux (esp. console-only, servers'n'stuff).
btw whoever has problems w/ non-working keys on external (esp. USB) keyboards, take a look here.
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Ok i updated a few hours back my kernel this is my current:
Kernel: 2.6.3-rc2-love2
USE="X usb acpi avi dga tcltk encode gif gphoto2 jpeg mmx mpeg mozilla x86 dvd fbcon -apm -alpha -sparc -mips -hppa kde -gnome gtk alsa gpm radeon -rage128 -sis -3dfx apache2 arts cdr fbcon spell xmms truetype mysql"
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr -frename-registers -falign-functions=64 -fprefetch-loop-arrays -pipe"
gcc: 3.3.2-r5
xfree: 4.3.0-r4 To be updated to 4.3.0-r5 today
Build in kernel ATI modules.
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Ok ati-drivers solution?
I don't know...haven't tested it...so check out by yourself:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=870865#870865
If anyone tests it please send back some info about it.
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Seems like a good solution if it works. Do you mean compiling in DRM support in kernel (I have DRM=y but no card selected). I think that would conflict with my framebuffer however. Another solution seems the plain radeon driver. But I guess the fglrx driver is the only way if you want accelerated graphics:
My glxgears, fast enough, but I think one can get faster:
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9881 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1976.200 FPS
9931 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1986.200 FPS
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The radeon driver used to give me 1400 FPS if I'm not mistaken. About the same as the kernel DRM. EDIT: sorry I was wrong, 1400 FPS is somewhat different from 1400 frames
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pestilence: Do you get TV-out to work with the build in DRM drivers?
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What about starting an IRC channel on the freenode.net irc-network i.e #acer? Would there be enough users? I could be a nice place to hang out
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Haven't tested the TV out since i am not concerned about it.
If anyone can check this please report it here.
As for accelaration the build in kernel driver supports 3d accelarations since it has been implemented in the DRI project for the Radeons up to 9000 (that's what inspired me in using the build in driver).
I will try also to build a fglrx module with the mtrr patch (i just applyed it on the build in module) once i do so...reporting will be here as always
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bash$ cd /tmp/ndiswrapper
bash$ cp driver/ndiswrapper.o /lib/modules/2.6.0/kernel/drivers/net/
bash$ cp driver/ndiswrapper.ko /lib/modules/2.6.0/kernel/drivers/net/
bash$ modules-update
bash$ mkdir /usr/local/bin/wlan
bash$ cp utils/loaddriver /usr/local/bin/wlan/
bash$ ln -s /usr/local/bin/wlan /usr/local/bin/loaddriver
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bash$ cd /tmp/ndiswrapper
bash$ cp driver/ndiswrapper.o /lib/modules/2.6.0/kernel/drivers/net/
bash$ cp driver/ndiswrapper.ko /lib/modules/2.6.0/kernel/drivers/net/
bash$ modules-update
bash$ mkdir /usr/local/bin/wlan
bash$ cp utils/loadndisdriver /usr/local/bin/wlan/
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bash$ ln -s /usr/local/bin/wlan/loadndisdriver /usr/local/bin/loaddriver
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I guess this is right? It's working though
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I think an IRC channel would be a good thing...open up one, let's see (anyone here familiar with bots?)...
@fredrin: Where exactly is the difference? Have I missed some spaces?
@pestilence: I will try that solution, let's see (got the same mtrr problem as mentioned in this thread, let's see...)
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