[wayland] wayfire and other compositors

Zucca · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:57 am Post subject: Xwayland

Hi.
Anyone here have a working Xwayland with wayfire? :D

I've been using wayfire on my latest laptop for months without Xwayland support without knowing it. Only now I encountered a bug/fluke when mosh'ing to a remote server. The remote server defaults to ISO charset, but I have changed config there.
The first thing I wanted to rule out is foot. So I tried to launch st. I couldn't open display. Then I installed Xwayland, restarted wayfire, but the problem still presists. I check ed my wayfire.ini and xwayland is enabled.
When running xrandr it gives the same error: "Can't open display".
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:51 am Post subject:

runs fine for me. (I'm running the 9999 version though)

when you start wayfire are you redirecting the output ">" so that you can see what's going on.
It should say something about xwayland.

which version of wayfire, wlroots and xwayland are you using?

Edit to add:

Zucca · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:52 pm Post subject:

Anon-E-moose · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:52 pm Post subject:

# Disable Xwayland auto start
#xwayland = false

If you set xwayland to false in your wayfire.ini then it won't start. It does default to true.

You're versions aren't that old, I was mainly looking for version inconsistency among them.

grep -i xwayland <wayfire log>

doesn't give you anything?
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Zucca · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:51 pm Post subject:

I have xwayland = true under [core].
Also grepping wayfire -d created output log doesn't give any lines. :(

Since xwayland has splitted off from main X packages... Do I miss something? Should I specify which "X server" wayfire should run upon trying to run some X-only program?
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:04 pm Post subject:

With that version of the ebuild you should have Xwayland in /usr/bin/ and a symlink to /usr/libexec/Xwayland.

It should find it.

I change where wlroots looks for xwayland in my shell script before I call wayfire
export WLR_XWAYLAND="/home/don/bin/Xwayland.sh"
but if this isn't set wlroots and wayfire should use /usr/bin/Xwayland.

Unless you didn't compile wlroots/wayfire without the X use flag.

what does emerge -pv wlroots wayfire show
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Zucca · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:02 pm Post subject:

It's the X USE-flags that's missing. D'Oh!

Recompiling...

EDIT: I should maybe file a bug for wlroots and wayfire ebuilds, since there is already a xwayland USE-flag for running X programs under wayland. At least weston ebuild uses it.
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Zucca · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:38 pm Post subject:

Yup. It works now.
I was so sure it was something in my configs so that I didn't even considered USE-flags.

What do you have on your special script in place of xwayland? I assume it's a wraper which execs xwayland in the end. Right?
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:11 pm Post subject:

Yes, it's a shell script, so that I can add a couple more options to xwayland

Zucca · Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:23 pm Post subject:

Anyone here tried hybridbar?
Looks promising... but

Anon-E-moose · Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:51 pm Post subject:

Haven't tried hybridbar, hadn't heard of it before.

I've walked away from wayfire (though it's still installed) and have been using labwc instead,
but I've been intending to look at hyprland, sway like with enhancements.

xfce is/has been working on porting much of their stuff to wayland.
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Zucca · Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:17 pm Post subject:

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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:51 pm Post subject:

I mostly run 9999 versions of the different compositors and since I do that I've gotten to where I modify the ebuild
and usually create a patch where wlroots is pulled as a subproject. I set it to be a static build with nothing from the subproject being installed.

It's a shame but with the state of wayland/wlroots/compositors in flux, the only other alternative is to emerge just one compositor at a time,
otherwise it's a nightmare when one want 15.1, another 16.0, another 17.0-dev.

I have 3 compositors emerged and not wlroots at all.
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Zucca · Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:45 pm Post subject:

I've witnessed the same. It seems that wlroots isn't much backwards compatible?
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:42 pm Post subject:

Nothing wrong with wayfire, per se.
I hardly used any of the plugins, so that's not really a selling point, for me.
They were lagging on keeping up with wlroots, and labwc was getting to be very stable, so I swapped.

Now labwc is my daily driver, with wayfire kept installed, in case I need it.

edit to add: I mentioned hyprland earlier, this is some of the bullet points for it

Zucca · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:03 pm Post subject:

I'm a bit annoyed that wf-panel can't have a tray.
Now I'm using waybar at the bottom to display all the status stuff and tray. Then at the top (hidden) is wf-panel with launchers and menu.
It works, but if a window is maximized (or at the very top) I can't close it using pointer as wf-panel appears over it.
Oh well... alt+F4 works.

I may try to write an ebuild for hybridbar to see if it provides the functionality of wf-panel+waybar.
*deep sigh*
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Anon-E-moose · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:11 pm Post subject:

Waybar should do everything that wf-panel does. I haven't had wf-panel installed since ... forever *laugh*
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Zucca · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:42 pm Post subject:

Anon-E-moose · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:35 pm Post subject:

On second thought, I don't know if waybar does the menu yet, but it should do everything else, and they constantly add new things.

I know I've created modules for displaying system level stuff (temps, fan speed, load avg, etc) not hard to write them.
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Zucca · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:57 pm Post subject:

I ended up with sfwbar.
The configuration is rather complex (but so is waybars), but it supports menus, tray and icons.
It ships with few sane defaults, one resembling win10 bar and another visually the same as default waybar.

On another note I'd consider using yambar on low end systems or if I seek something minimal.
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